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tv   Texas Tribune Festival - Trump the Resistance  CSPAN  December 5, 2017 12:47am-1:51am EST

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[applause] were. >> and the correspondent for cbs news on behalf of the texas tribune wrote them to the texas tribune festival with a panel of trump and
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the resistance. here is our panel led to my immediate left is ms. richards. [cheers and applause] but if you don't know what the planned parenthood federation of america and the action front with reproductive rights and bin 2011 federal funding for planned parenthood next is
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the speaker of the house of for prison this in bin central denver since 2010 and elected speaker in 2016 that same your going gangbusters us say recipient of emily's list. [applause] >> that it is exciting.
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[laughter] >> and since then around the country protesting police violence has a really remarkable effort. [applause] co-founder and executive director of the invisible project. [cheers and applause] day fer he worked as associate director of federal policy director so a
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couple of? notes the panel will last 50 minutes and then take the question as to the texas tribune. and i would get the questions and sort through them then ask the panel.
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so i and interested to talk about the term itself. so are we talk about advancing a positive agenda? will listen without work that has happened. >> thanks. but with planned parenthood with the action front wheat gained 1 million more supporters right after the election. not just call your member of the senate is has that
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opportunity as organizers to fight back what they believed in. and then to start new things to be part of the progressive movement. and we're proud to stand on racial justice or voting rights they affect our patients and families of the with that movement that i have seen.
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>> to include positive actions. >> you could have a forward moving agenda it is more important than ever to be involved in the political process with the senator and congress people about health care or so many of the issues under attack that is what we will need to keep going in the right direction. but communication with elected officials but it also has to happen at the ballot box. queeney to make sure that momentum that we have to make sure to have these people and office. when it comes to racism and
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sexism it is different than what we perceive ourselves to be that we see some of the things such as the over way to see the things that is happening but with that conversation to come up with a new path forward to address those issues head-on. >> that is unjust with the presence of justice. then to build the future of proactively.
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we have lived in a world before but the world of equity and justice is a lot we have ever experienced. so to use tear down that somebody on our side batted it is interesting that day talk about the media of protest but really? ltd. is interesting because trump with marginalizing people and that with the muslim man
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so as to have that deep history of of injustice that trump is 90 originator he is just the embodiment of it. [applause] >> so i reiterate what has been said that this is all we thought it would be but is the there is amazing in justice in this country but those that are brand new to the resistance going on for years or decades without
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responsibility is to work with those groups to actually resist not just those progressive felt values but the specific question live here is a the hard truth with that agenda us setting power that is in the only power we will ever have but here is the opportunity. so knowing if they will lose their health insurance. that is the urgent threat right now. >> so around that issue then
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is very effective at that legislation like gramm cassidy it is unjust legislation with the executive orders half do they resist that? with that trump agenda. >> with that trump administration agenda comes with the push priority so with members of congress.
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in how old do we get that the local level? with those federal agencies. so the fact is trump doesn't care what you think. so they respond. so where is the leverage? millet they can do as a constituent.
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so with that line of accountability. so with this ideology what is interesting but actually has a huge impact on people's lives. that will be there for the next 50 years. but the thing with the police with us doj that happens that the local level to organize without protest
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to create space that so many groups have done to think about those issues deburred to say i can do this that people don't is more likely to be killed by a police officer but in virginia. when do you lose your right to go permanently. but so much is happening at the local and state level. >> is there a way to connect people from the very beginning into activism?.
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>> so from my perspective to see the threat of trump is a little obscure to their visions. >> they have not done well in the past few years there is way more interest to have that materialized to figure out how to do that. but we all started as random people nerol like regular people. >> so that is hauled all
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good organizing happens and if they can focus on their member of congress what i focus sorry get involved in other communities? with us side group. and then to get them in the room. >> but as organizers and there is no better example.
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and then to take over a the state capital. >> people stay in tel to:00 in the morning. but if people never quit the dodgers' third to tell their stories. all of this kept going so that is what persistence is. never never giving up.
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>> en bin colorado to be despite productive and then touche thread the needle and the outcome of that with those circumstances and as they are interrogated with the situation. so we also have to think what is the different legislators of positions in power? can their budget sustain the costs that they need? absolutely not.
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with that argument from different people and backgrounds with so many of the issues to make sure every betty looks to ellen's -- prevalence -- through the lens and it is relevant in general president trump said he would revoke daca immediately congressional democrats are looking for a solution. but there is the of prospect of a permanent solution and since then there has jumped
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up a couple points. so that public spectacle so the question is did the democrats work with the administration knowing that there is a chance to make that a little more difficult?. >> this is the seventh time the bill was introduced whether it is rescinding
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daca or part of somebody who was known for racial profiling. so with the republican party. that was the party of no. and what is to accomplish for the american people the affordable care act is the perfect example of that. that is the base model. that we are driving policy but that said in with the immigration reform but
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always to be fat -- to be focused. and then but we can never forget the road to the white house going right to the middle income families. to provide for themselves and families and that is a question we should be asking. >>. >> there is something that
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if we are trying to change people's lives if they weren't the consistently in with that response will but if you saw his ego is fragile but maxine waters. [applause] but is in just like one person that is holding down so he thinks the hillary campaign is the same thing. you know, that appears to she was out there but i supported hillary at the end
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but the right has mastered that but they nailed that like with health care what is the other message?. >> so earlier this month i remember the week would we be like to do this in the news back in november to talk about the internment camps as in example as of model in the for the democratic leadership so we need to work on infrastructure we could wind up in a world with the german camps -- in german camps but that was why it
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was called indivisible with the idea we could be attacked but if you wait your turn. [applause] so what we saw two weeks ago there were several bills even including the short term budget but then it trump attacked 800,000 the best america has to offer by saying he would end the daca program. we have legislation that they need then the next day democrats in leadership cut a deal with the white supremacist left behind a hundred thousand dreamers'
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so few are wondering why we are discussing this on the health care bill because of that deal. so talked-about solidarity of everybody thinks stand together rainbows and the sunshine those of the most vulnerable communities but the federal state of for you so of you talk about trump i am all for that butterflies and rainbows that if cutting a deal with him with 800,000 people for 32,000 americans is since noting he we will not take that deal. [applause] >> we had our own experience at planned parenthood as an example maybe he likes to
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make deals but but this is happening where we have no opportunity where nefarious things are happening with part of health and human services tom price had a private jet going from washington d.c., did you hear about this? so literally to execute a domestic gag order in this country meaning that they can no longer a revised to the abortion provider with basic health care information that is what i am worried about we're
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following with his tweets on twitter well we are unraveling health care rights i feel like that is the tough stuff as we continue not to focus on the of craziness over here the people are depending on the government to be there for them. >> you actually have to declare war on it and completely channel on everything that is happening it isn't about what is happening to real people but to have that take away for the 57 million people in this country that tone price would like to do with the information on abortion but we could create the biggest
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groundswell movement ever seen and that is our job right now. as well as trying to win everything that we can. the people get tired. so when donald trump was elected in paul ryan said the will repeal obamacare and defund planned parenthood but that bill has not passed. [cheers and applause] everything is about health care but it's not like it didn't happen because they change their mind but because thousands of people rose up and went to
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washington d.c. and went to the town hall meetings so to me we have to tell the story of what it means to organize >> we already talked about this a little bit but specifically whether four years from now in 2021 or eight years from now, i don't know what year that is. [laughter] there will be after trump experience. >> so one of the questions so the task of be are we recovering building something new so what does that look like to lay the
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groundwork? and what advice do you have for people looking toward the future? for what they do and how they will get there?. >> but with the mass incarceration as a matter as the people of color let mass incarceration affect us that people know what that looks like at the local and state level i just went to an goal of it is 18,000 acres it
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used to be for plantations is now one now houses about 10,000 people but if you think about bail reform like a mythical magical thing kentucky doesn't have bailor chicago they can actually do those things so if you think i'd like the louisiana taking 12 people on the journey with life with no possibility of parole they didn't want to lower the conviction rate which is crazy of. >> wire people mad about that? so how do we left
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that up to talk about a simple language and then to mobilize people to tell that in a simple way this isn't just their behavior but some of this is changing people's minds or to tell a story differently. so when did the police tried to kill your child? i don't know either. [applause] some tell the story is in the way that others can repeat that but how do we talk about it over and over it has to be part of working to build a better future. >> i think we need to do continue the momentum is building in the right
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direction that we do believe the status quo is not the way to make sure we're going to the right direction a thing queeney did new leaders to get to a variety of different positions the first nuttiness speaker of the house. [applause] and to me it is wonderful for the even that much more important to build pathways to get into a variety of roles from city hall into the white house to be inclusive is just about being politically correct i truly believe to get better policy we have people in positions of power with
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different backgrounds and experience said to have a way of recruitment to get into those right places that they are in positions of power. >> are there structural things lawmakers could be doing to help to get new kinds of leadership? i am thinking about gerrymandering in this period maybe you have an easier time electing people. >> we have redistricting and reapportionment coming up in colorado you will see this across the country as well it is important to have competitive districts but those battles that are taking place right now and
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states are looking if people are paying attention to to see what will lead to a fair and balanced. >> also with the congressional delegation that doesn't reflect the diversity of this state the with voting rights i feel that it is esoteric with a grass roots mobilization strategy for those people that like to vote for a whole host of reasons but if people cannot vote you cannot have a democracy but to rehabilitate the idea to make a difference so people get so discouraged because they were literally denied the right to vote for perot
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that was fantastic one of the most exciting moments for anyone to see thousands of people calling congress that was one of the most exciting changes in congress. [applause] this is my own little example trying to explain to men in congress how this all works. [laughter] that if you could get pregnant we would not be fighting about birth control. [applause] >> i want all of this. how do we get this our political system was not responsive to the people right now. the exciting thing is the silver lining the people
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feel they're under attack by this administration but that is not the source of burnout but if some guy talks 45 minutes there is no agenda you feel like you're not doing anything productive process right now is the community level infrastructure that can mobilize people but it isn't to build up leadership for though long-term or we will keep banging our heads against of wall where the only responsive to rich people and corporations?. >> also talking about voting with the political power yes
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i remember all those things happened and i understand voting is important but it comes down to that generation they talk about voting. [laughter] but then also we never forget about that equity so if you are mobilizing so they said the police killed thousands of people every year. so i made sure when he is
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gone those images remain because people are gun shy when we are on some of these easier issues. >> we're at the cuny portion if you like to ask a question either tweet it or text it here is one that is a good view practice self care with resistance work on a daily basis?. >> [laughter] >> i don't practice self
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care. [laughter] is a challenge and i do whatever i time some time and then think of the position that i am in so i would love to hear that. >> is like the fatigue setting in so there is a lack of infrastructure but everything that is even worse. so that takes a lot of energy so just to be alone that helps me but.
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>> this is a tough question this doesn't work for every petty but basically it means we don't talk about anything so that really is cents self care. [laughter] makes me second-guess a lot. >> when your efforts start to feel fuel you doubt you are making an impact what keeps you going?. >> that is a really good question this is a long haul and has been and we should recognize that but i felt
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after this election with 45 that every day that i can get up to keep the doors open at planned parenthood i did the math that is 118 people that get health care that day were those otherwise that wouldn't and then do break it down and that really helps me keep going. every day we have stopped this administration for rolling back the health care people have kept their coverage that is what i get up every morning for. [applause] >> we have had pieces of legislation that have come forward for in colorado in
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the time that was most motivating to me is when we could find common ground without people losing their health care and i am still a believer but that binds the of human experience together so where are the points of common ground which those that have elected us the governor said this is the most productive he has seen the try to think about those issues that people go through every single day like that investment of bringing people together but never not been willing to
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stand up with racism and sexism with those values that we have so much that doesn't need to be mutually exclusive. >> for so many people for help them to see they had power they did not know that they had. so to help you unlocked that power and that gives me hope. so you see people but that is how we win with the successful blacks that build up so looking at the
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monuments coming down. but if we think about what it means to fight we have never done that before so you think it's fair of marching on city hall so you win once and then you believe you can get something accomplished they push the health care now of a sudden the bill gets passed in the matters to people so that can be helpful everyday. [applause] >> data macro level we're eight months into what we haven't seen with the affordable care racked it was the number one legislative priority as a
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result people standing up in their community that you can change what is possible through the small acts and every time i talk to group leaders or members now say are running for local office or fighting for daca and motivated by of the right things and seeing the fruits of their labor. >> there are lots of related questions that trump is just the remix so how do we ensure people are still active?. >> anybody can take that or
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i will just point. [laughter] >> i am a little worried because people literally believe that is how people think about it and there are places across the country they are in jail 20 years because they stole the negative owned. teams like the school zone. if you sell the dime bag within a area of school you automatically give between cater 12 years but it's anywhere else it is a number of days so to be explicit to call out when organizing so when truck is going to still
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focus on that because republicans are very good to flip the phrase. the right will sacrifice everything so the kkk, the old rate that is all the same idea. or the alt-right sometimes we get into a box so we don't talk about the idea anymore. they are not dumb. [applause] and not to have a legacy of reading name a third generation reader but somebody that cannot even sign their name is a wild. that we are feeling as
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organizers everyone to make sure that people who have proximity to the issue to see that for the first time that people live in aruba as big as this in a dorm people say let them all out to. [laughter] so this is best organizers have real proximity to. >> then it is important rarely is about building a country of equity and justice and recognize we
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fought during the obama administration. we had to fight to get birth control for women and it wasn't easy but now finally they caved so it's important to remember we are fighting about those ideals that transcend and i think the exciting thing is getting a whole generation their ideals will even be higher that is what will make a difference beyond this administration. >> i totally agree with everything just said talking to the organizing director but he distinguishes between organizing that you get a
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group of people to accomplish things, who then after words that is all well and good for the campaign people are valid initiatives put organizing is much different it is organizing your power so you cannot mobilize with the importance of organizing is more permanent activism is not the individual that is fine it is natural but to have the group building up the power so as not just within the next elections are over the people investing in their own communities. >> so on that topic of local infrastructure sarah asked
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there are multiple mentioned so what can local people do do?. >> amazing everywhere that i go now people will just organizing my mom said don't wait for instructions where somebody will have a perfect idea and say what should i do? but the truth is it will be a number of things but all in the district had a risk of shutting down so where are we supposed to go? co pay organize with foreword dewitt 1300 members
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so leisurely thematic is the thing so just do you can do what will be the final thing to a tip the balance but we cannot wait until we figure that out and what it took john mccain over the line to vote for the health care bill? we have to keep moving. >> i think it is picked your passion because you can fight so many different issues that could help to focus on what you want to accomplish a half to give a plug for the state legislators and local leaders to get involved with the campaign if you believe they are going after the right values that we were gone across the country a couple hundred croats
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sometimes can make a big difference for who is in power and who is not knocking on doors for organizing you can make a difference. >> paypal let's catch ferguson said in september and october the deficit still for more than five seconds he would be arrested we could be there for so long as an organization there was the infrastructure that emerged we figure how to coexist with a common goal but if we would be a traditional organization so with my chapter that is a way to build the power and
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connection and i think we have seen so many people actually find a home on the internet to organize but it took on bodies in the street reaction a had to show up on but others gave so much it did not required to be in the moment but if you think about power and influence in the decisionmaking process that they could interact with the way the people do that. >> so far the movement is what is driving is waiting for someone but this is it going to happen probably.
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people who volunteer themselves there are groups in every congressional district in the country go find a planned parenthood chapter but to ask yourself you would have done any historical fight for justice the answer is what you're doing right now. just get involved that is what is making this work right now. >> one last question i will pull together questions around the same topic of basically what are the limits of resistance? people are asking about and chief of but there is confrontation but what should the of limits me?
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should we be willing? or does that go too far? [laughter] >> specifically to be non-violent to say you are practicing on violence we haven't had any examples of anybody getting violent if we did it is a problem but it is hard for me to say to somebody else on the appropriate weight to respond you could be in the individual group to practice but the fact of the matter is far be it from me to say that you have to follow my way of resisting.
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>> some people believe that there is a way to make change some people never sit in the basement of a church on wednesday but they want to make a difference and there is part of that organizing community to embrace those that want to engage differently but they're more interested in fighting and winning battlefield they have a home so the view has already been if you talk about what the problem as organizing group stowe spend time imagining so i have seen that happen and they are addicted to what that looks like and i guess it because on the
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margin you're not heard or seen traditionally now they are seen and heard for the first time people can get more addicted to that but not to condone it or understand it i get it that we call for justice people have called for justice in the moments when you have the right to call for something so different part of building a coalition means we agree but also think about the path of getting their different me with a multitude of tactic. >> we're officially of time. thanks to the panel.
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[laughter] [cheers and applause] [inaudible conversations] n topi
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specifics that will affect not only the white house and cong . >> joining us now covering congress from the hill and also the white house reporter thanks for joining us. what are the most concerned with so to speak? bin the president was going to me it utah today to make an announcement on shrinking national monuments of what

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