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no support for this assertion - please discuss below and provide statutory and/or adjudicated support for claim requiring "off-the-shelf" fonts.
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==WHAT THIS TEMPLATE IS AND IS NOT (please read carefully)==
This template is '''''only''''' for logos whose appearance could be duplicated by buying or downloading a standard off-the shelf regular text font, selecting that font in your word-processor or graphics program, and then typing in the text in the logo. Due to a quirk of United States copyright law, the shapes of functional symbols (letters, numbers. punctuation) in a functional text font cannot usually be copyrighted, so that the shapes of logos which are composed only of normally-arranged "text in a general typeface" also cannot usually be copyrighted (though they may be covered by very strong trademark protections, which is a completely different subject).

<font color="red"><big>However</big></font>, logos containing letter shapes which have been significantly artistically manipulated and customized, and whose appearance could not be duplicated in a word processor by typing in "text in a general typeface" are '''''not covered by this template'''''. Please do not misuse this template. Thank you. [[User:AnonMoos|AnonMoos]] 18:25, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

==U.S. law quote==
==U.S. law quote==



Revision as of 14:51, 13 June 2008

U.S. law quote

"Similarly, it is not possible to copyright common geometric figures or shapes such as the hexagon or the ellipse, a standard symbol such as an arrow or a five-pointed star. Likewise, mere coloration cannot support a copyright even though it may enhance the aesthetic appeal or commercial value of a work. For example, it is not possible to copyright a new version of a textile design merely because the colors of red and blue appearing in the design have been replaced by green and yellow, respectively. The same is true of a simple combination of a few standard symbols such as a circle, a star, and a triangle, with minor linear or spatial variations."[1]

Fred Chess 15:08, 27 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Term of design patent?

From the template:

Logos can be registered as design patents for a copyright-like protection.

Should it be noted that design patents generally expire much sooner than copyrights? --Damian Yerrick () 15:17, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not familiar with "design patents" (vs. regular physical patents) but I think the trademark status is more important because it can be just as restrictive and never expire. - Rocket000 05:03, 1 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Text logos

Is there any obligation of creating an svg version of Google, Flickr and such..? Yuval Y § Chat § 23:18, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Flickr should be fine, but Google's letters are too stylized to be ineligible. - Rocket000 05:01, 1 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Stylized text logos

This templete is accepted for a stylized text logos? Some from they may be crafty to detect, for exemple if a logo based on non-latin alphabet (Greek, Russian, Hebrew, Arabic etc.) -- Sergey kudryavtsev 12:18, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If "stylized" means "artistically changed in a manner which allows full scope for individual creativity on the part of the person who devised the logo", then the answer is apparently not... AnonMoos 13:08, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

PD-text

I'm thinking about creating a new template for simple text that isn't a logo. It would categorize into Category:PD text a subcategory of Category:PD ineligible. I would also have {{PD-textlogo}} categorize into that also (or create another category). This would greatly help organize Category:PD ineligible. Examples:

So is this a good idea? Rocket000 20:07, 31 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds reasonable... AnonMoos 22:24, 31 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
But why the ellipsis? :) I see Lokal Profil just made Category:PD ancient script. Rocket000 23:43, 31 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Ellipsis? I created Category:PD ancient script because this template already existed and was a combination of PD-ineligible for the actual script and PD-self for the realisation of it. So I figured better with an own cat which can then be a subcat of both. PD-text would be quite usefull, would it also cover images like Image:A-5Spain.png? /Lokal_Profil 00:03, 1 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I was referring to AnonMoos' "..." like he wasn't sure if it was good idea or something. I wasn't aware there was a template for ancient scripts already. And I wondered why you put it in PD-self. Rocket000 01:01, 1 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I meant that it sounds like a good idea, assuming that there aren't any relevant legal difficulties (for example, in some cases, the arrangement and concatenation of uncopyrightable font character shapes can result in a copyrightable whole, and I don't feel personally too confident about knowing the exact point when the uncopyrightable transitions into the copyrightable...). AnonMoos 04:07, 1 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]