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Jnestorius

Joined 29 July 2004

Joesty Nestorius, at your service.

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  • Olympic medal and Medal (sports) from gold medal, silver medal, bronze medal
  • Hiberno-English phonology; standard v dialect;
  • Clay Sanskrit Library ←→ John P. Clay : Murty Classical Library of India
    Sheldon Pollock quoted in Kuruvilla, Elizabeth (24 January 2015). "The modern revivalists". Live Mint corresponded with [HUP] on 5 January 2009, saying that the Clay Sanskrit Library ... was coming to an end and I wanted to find a way to build on that visionary project ... John Clay ... had decided to move on to other philanthropic activities. So the library was closed and many translators were left hanging. They had done one part of a series, Book 1 of Kadambari, Books 2 and 3 were just “sorry, bye". I want to praise John Clay for his extraordinary vision, but many people were blindsided by the sudden termination of the library and I felt that was unfair. ... John said no, I don’t want you to go raise money for me, I don’t want to continue the series, it is what it is, thank you, bye-bye—that was in October 2008"
  • Wookie adds from other spellings
  • The whole nine yards — 1855 "The Judge’s Big Shirt"
    • OED (Dec. 2015 update per linguistlist) s.v. "nine, adj." subsense 3.e. [sense 3 groups "allusive and proverbial uses"; others include "nine days' wonder", "nine ways at once", "nine lives"] "Apparently originating in the frequently repeated comic story cited in quot. 1855." — says who? OED internal lexicographers? What of others? (1855 quote is in brackets; 1907 quote is first unqualified)
    • nytimes 2012 (article has potted history of antedatings since 1982 Safire NYT article; also enchilada, shebang, ball of wax)
    • Barry Popik barrypopik.com — originally 2005 but check archive.org for dates of later edits — 'it appears that a popular 1855 story, "The Judge's Big Shirt," spread the idea that the "whole nine yards" of cloth meant "everything."'
    • Fred Shapiro
    • Patricia T. O'Conner and Stewart Kellerman grammarphobia 2016/12 Dubious of 1855–1907 attestation gap: "Perhaps researchers will eventually fill in the gap with more examples." / Other researchers have found that cloth was often sold in multiples of three yards during the 19th century, and “nine yards” was a common measurement. / “nine yards to the dollar” / Richard Bucci 1850 will not attempt to follow you through your ‘nine yards’ in all its serpentine windings
    • Stephen Goranson [1] "1855 joke link is iffy, at best"
    • David Wilton wordorigins "the long gap, over fifty years, between this citation and the next militates against this story"
  • Category:CS1 maint: unfit URL (Help talk:Citation Style 1/Archive subpages unless stated otherwise):
    • User talk:Cyberpower678/Archive 34#|dead-url=unfit "In all cases, the |url= values that Cyberbot II declared to be unfit, are not in fact, unfit and are working correctly. ... I will modify Module:Citation/CS1 to add articles with |dead-url=unfit and |dead-url=usurped to a maintenance category so these templates are marked and can be inspected and repaired." added to sandbox 2016-06-20T11:56:25
    • 19—|dead-url=unfit maintenance category "I misspoke. Cyberbot II sets |dead-url=unfit when it moves an archival url from |url= to |archive-url= leaving behind the original url in |url= ... As a result of the conversation at the bot operator's talk page, I have modified the sandbox to include a new |dead-url= keyword bot: unknown." added to sandbox 2016-06-21T15:57:56
    • Module:Citation/CS1 utilities.set_message ('maint_unfit'); (lines 3851 et seq) sandbox to main 2016-07-30T10:55:17
    • Category talk:CS1 maint: unfit URL#How to remove "Is there a method to remove this category from articles when the parameter has been correctly applied?" 26 January 2019 "The maintenance message helps to answer editor questions about why the reference has the 'Archived from the original' static text where 'the original' isn't linked" 6 January 2024
    • 57—Unfit URLs "Seems a bit silly to have a maintenance category that can't be emptied." "A lot of the articles in that category come from a time when Cyberbot II was adding |dead-url=unfit to many cs1|2 templates that it touched. ... We could create additional keywords unfit-verified, usurped-verified. What then? ... Someone may find it useful – it isn't as though there is a cost to having such categories." 22 May 2019
    • 72—unfit url: maint or property? "The tracking category for pages using |url-status=unfit or |url-status=usurped, Category:CS1 maint: unfit url, seems like it would make more sense as a property category, much like Category:CS1: long volume value, given that there are legitimate uses for those values" "We've had one or two (not recent?) discussions about whether it should be maintained. For example, someone might feasibly misuse the parameter to remove a URL that doesn't need removing, where maybe it should be the case that someone should check that each instance of unfit is a good use." 27 October 2020
    • 83—unfit url maintenance message "I think that you are the first to complain about lingering maintenance messaging." 6 March 2022
    • 84—url-status parameter invalid "There is no required action for most maintenance messages." 3 August 2022
    • 88—Template:Citation Style documentation/url leaves a Script warning "explain why there should be a Script warning – of any type – when using url-status=unfit in the way explicitly defined by the documentation" 17 April 2023
  • Court of Chancery#Origins cited 1828 source says 8 Ed. 1 quote (Law French original in 1662 cited by 1828) is a "Statute", but a 1970 source says "Chancery memorandum".
  • David Copperfield -- little Emily was never a prostitute, whereas Martha was.
    • do you remember Martha?” / “Of our town?” / I needed no other answer than his face. / “Do you know that she is in London?” / “I have seen her in the streets,” he answered, with a shiver.
    • When my child,” he said aloud, and with an energy of gratitude that shook him from head to foot, “stood upon the brink of more than I can say or think on—Martha, trew to her promise, saved her!”
  • List of Irish Academy Award winners and nominees
  • {{Ireland newspapers}} and other two "Newspapers of Ireland founded in the period before the establishment of Northern Ireland in 1921 and the Republic of Ireland in 1937" — (1) 1937 was Constitution, 1949 was Republic (2) why the different end dates? Why not just 1921 for both? (3) why plaster two overlapping templates onto most articles? what value to readers? (4) just vague yuck

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