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Hi, regarding [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bromine&curid=3756&diff=991500542&oldid=991500487&diffmode=source this] edit in [[bromine]], introducing {{tl|sub}}, {{tl|sup}}. At first glance, it looks trivial and so unnecessary. Then, reading the {{tl|sup/doc}} it says: "a good candidate for substituting (i.e. <nowiki>{{subst:sup}}</nowiki>)", which would ... reintroduce the tags. So to me it does not look like a useful edit. Are there ideas I do not see? If not, I'd suggest not making such edits. Have a nice edit, -[[User:DePiep|DePiep]] ([[User talk:DePiep|talk]]) 14:42, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
:{{u|DePiep}}, [[Help:HTML in wikitext]] says to prefer MediaWiki markup to raw HTML. Agreed that this one is a little silly if you're going to substitute it but templates are easier and to input than tags, so unless the page is nearing its maximum amount of transclusions, that would be a reason to keep them. ―[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 01:42, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
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Happily someone else has removed it but I just wanted to point out your error in [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Elliot_Page&oldid=prev&diff=991881556&diffmode=source this reversion]: no, that's not how definition lists work. ▼
If we used them that way, they what you were saying is that "{{tq|'dagger', denotes works that have not yet been released}}" is the {{em|definition}} of the term "key".▼
That's not at all how that was structured... "Key" was clearly functioning as a [[MOS:PSEUDOHEAD|pseudo-header]] and so should have been either an actual heading or rendered in boldface, as per the MOS guidance on pseudo-headers. —[[User:Joeyconnick|Joeyconnick]] ([[User talk:Joeyconnick|talk]]) 20:50, 2 December 2020 (UTC)▼
:{{u|Joeyconnick}}, Actually, this is a really good point: for it to properly be a description (definition) list, it would have to be in the form <nowiki>;dagger [line break] :Film is not yet released</nowiki> (i.e. not starting with the word "Key"). Thanks. ―[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 21:14, 2 December 2020 (UTC)▼
::{{U|Joeyconnick}} This is covered at [[MOS:DLIST]]. The {{tag|dt|o}} markup <code><nowiki>;</nowiki></code> should not be used for boldfacing (pseudoheadings). We have <code><nowiki>''...''</nowiki></code> for a reason. The {{tag|dd|o}} markup <code><nowiki>:</nowiki></code> should not be used for indentation; we have various templates for that, like {{tlx|blockindent}} and (for very short stuff}} {{tlx|in5}}. Talk pages are just a lost cause at this point, but the actual encyclopedia content should not be intentionally producing invalid markup. If anyone gives you grief about it, point them at [[MOS:DLIST]]. <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"> — [[User:SMcCandlish|'''SMcCandlish''']] [[User talk:SMcCandlish|☏]] [[Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish|¢]] 😼 </span> 21:14, 4 December 2020 (UTC)▼
:::{{u|SMcCandlish}}, to be clear, I think his interpretation of the definition/description list was actually correct here as the pair is "dagger" and "means in production", not "key" and "dagger means in production". ―[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 08:51, 5 December 2020 (UTC)▼
==Rape in Islamic law epic discussion==▼
Hi Koavf. A few months ago, an editor ([[User:Mcphurphy|Mcphurphy]] ([[User talk:Mcphurphy|talk]])) requested me to be a third opinion in a discussion they were having. That discussion and controversy turned out to be a big scholar debate in the talk page of the article [[Rape in Islamic law]]. Given that you have a degree in Philosophy maybe you would like to delve into it. Regards, [[User:Thinker78|Thinker78]] ([[User talk:Thinker78|talk]]) 02:15, 3 December 2020 (UTC)▼
:{{u|Thinker78}}, Thanks for soliciting my perspective but for the time being, I'll have to pass until/unless either [[User:Barkeep49]] or some community action allows me to edit again. ―[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 06:31, 3 December 2020 (UTC)▼
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:::It is clear that no lesser restriction will get them to stop. The previous 1RR imposed by arbcom didn't get them to stop. The many temporary blocks did not get them to stop. Any promises to stop should be ignored based upon all of the previous promises to stop. --[[User:Guy Macon|Guy Macon]] ([[User talk:Guy Macon|talk]]) 16:54, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard&oldid=992539804#User_Koavf_block_review The unblock appeal ended with no action taken. Link to AN thread]. --[[User:HurricaneTracker495|HurricaneTracker495]] ([[User talk:HurricaneTracker495|talk]]) 20:59, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
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▲Happily someone else has removed it but I just wanted to point out your error in [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Elliot_Page&oldid=prev&diff=991881556&diffmode=source this reversion]: no, that's not how definition lists work.
▲If we used them that way, they what you were saying is that "{{tq|'dagger', denotes works that have not yet been released}}" is the {{em|definition}} of the term "key".
▲That's not at all how that was structured... "Key" was clearly functioning as a [[MOS:PSEUDOHEAD|pseudo-header]] and so should have been either an actual heading or rendered in boldface, as per the MOS guidance on pseudo-headers. —[[User:Joeyconnick|Joeyconnick]] ([[User talk:Joeyconnick|talk]]) 20:50, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
▲:{{u|Joeyconnick}}, Actually, this is a really good point: for it to properly be a description (definition) list, it would have to be in the form <nowiki>;dagger [line break] :Film is not yet released</nowiki> (i.e. not starting with the word "Key"). Thanks. ―[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 21:14, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
▲::{{U|Joeyconnick}} This is covered at [[MOS:DLIST]]. The {{tag|dt|o}} markup <code><nowiki>;</nowiki></code> should not be used for boldfacing (pseudoheadings). We have <code><nowiki>''...''</nowiki></code> for a reason. The {{tag|dd|o}} markup <code><nowiki>:</nowiki></code> should not be used for indentation; we have various templates for that, like {{tlx|blockindent}} and (for very short stuff}} {{tlx|in5}}. Talk pages are just a lost cause at this point, but the actual encyclopedia content should not be intentionally producing invalid markup. If anyone gives you grief about it, point them at [[MOS:DLIST]]. <span style="white-space:nowrap;font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"> — [[User:SMcCandlish|'''SMcCandlish''']] [[User talk:SMcCandlish|☏]] [[Special:Contributions/SMcCandlish|¢]] 😼 </span> 21:14, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
▲:::{{u|SMcCandlish}}, to be clear, I think his interpretation of the definition/description list was actually correct here as the pair is "dagger" and "means in production", not "key" and "dagger means in production". ―[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 08:51, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
▲==Rape in Islamic law epic discussion==
▲Hi Koavf. A few months ago, an editor ([[User:Mcphurphy|Mcphurphy]] ([[User talk:Mcphurphy|talk]])) requested me to be a third opinion in a discussion they were having. That discussion and controversy turned out to be a big scholar debate in the talk page of the article [[Rape in Islamic law]]. Given that you have a degree in Philosophy maybe you would like to delve into it. Regards, [[User:Thinker78|Thinker78]] ([[User talk:Thinker78|talk]]) 02:15, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
▲:{{u|Thinker78}}, Thanks for soliciting my perspective but for the time being, I'll have to pass until/unless either [[User:Barkeep49]] or some community action allows me to edit again. ―[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 06:31, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
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