 | The use of the contentious topics procedure has been authorised by the community for pages related to South Asian social groups, including this page. Editors who repeatedly or seriously fail to adhere to the purpose of Wikipedia, any expected standards of behaviour, or any normal editorial process may be sanctioned. |
| This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Bhumihar article. This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject. |
Article policies
|
| Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL |
Archives: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7Auto-archiving period: 30 days  |
 | This article was nominated for deletion. Please review the prior discussions if you are considering re-nomination:
|
 | The subject of this article is controversial and content may be in dispute. When updating the article, be bold, but not reckless. Feel free to try to improve the article, but don't take it personally if your changes are reversed; instead, come here to the talk page to discuss them. Content must be written from a neutral point of view. Include citations when adding content and consider tagging or removing unsourced information. |
 | This article is rated Start-class on Wikipedia's content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
|||||||
|
This page has archives. Sections older than 30 days may be automatically archived by Lowercase sigmabot III when more than 3 sections are present. |
Wrong facts about BHUMIHARS.
Bhumihars are rulling caste in Bihar, Jharkhand and Purvanchal region of Uttar Pradesh.This caste is holding most of the lands in the area so some people always try to defame Bhumihar caste by spreading wrong and false things about BHUMIHARS. Bhumihars are pure Brahmin and they are good warriors and comes under martial race. Rakesh Kumar Vats (talk) 16:57, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
- Oh, so you are here to promote the caste, Rakesh Kumar Vats! Sorry, Wikipedia is all about reliable and verifiable sources; articles are not based on original research (WP:OR)! Thanks. Ekdalian (talk) 07:26, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
- So why you are not providing proof when bhumihar are considered as shudra and in which census bhumihar placed in shudra category . And don't refer book of any author please provide british official census report. In first census they are placed as third category not in shudra category so can you provide british official census in which they placed as shudra 122.171.206.43 (talk) 08:58, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
Please provide proof of bhumihar considered shudra in which caste census . They were placed as third ad hoc doesn't mean they were shudra
In which census bhumihar considered as shudra in British census . Can you provide detail . 122.171.206.43 (talk) 08:53, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
- Please check reference # 20, Democracy against Development: Lower-Caste Politics and Political Modernity in Postcolonial India (University of Chicago Press) page 31; I checked once again, and it clearly says so! We usually avoid primary sources like Census, rather we prefer reliable sources referring to them. Ekdalian (talk) 10:46, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
- Since We are talking about British Census why can't we refer to the Primary Sources ? and yes i'Ve Read WP:RSPRIMARY but do care to Explain Cause I've Read multiple census Reports myself and didn't Find Mentioning This ? if I am Wrong Pls Care to Rectify me and this Article definately doesn't Seems Neutral or as per WP:NPOV Maybe You Should Rewrite Those Points. Aditya Prakash-080 (talk) 21:06, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
- Why should I explain further when we have a typically reliable source mentioning the same, in accordance with our policies! Please mention in case there's any violation of our policies, but any user here with the objective of caste promotion would refuse to understand; read WP:SPA! Thanks. Ekdalian (talk) 11:16, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
- Could you please provide the authenticity of the below asked questions?
- bhumihar are considered as shudra and in which census bhumihar placed in shudra category . As far as I have read the british official report, they have mentioned it as Bhumihar Brahmin. Ayush219 (talk) 19:54, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
- buddy, no point asking these highly educated folks about editing the article. Bhumihars page is overtaken by leftist group and their editors like sitush, kashmiri, ekdalian etc. Every source they have used is unreliable having manipulated info creating wrong perception about bhumihars. They think they gonna bring some sort of revolution in this digital age ,lol,. GRAI777 (talk) 14:02, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
- Why should I explain further when we have a typically reliable source mentioning the same, in accordance with our policies! Please mention in case there's any violation of our policies, but any user here with the objective of caste promotion would refuse to understand; read WP:SPA! Thanks. Ekdalian (talk) 11:16, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
- Since We are talking about British Census why can't we refer to the Primary Sources ? and yes i'Ve Read WP:RSPRIMARY but do care to Explain Cause I've Read multiple census Reports myself and didn't Find Mentioning This ? if I am Wrong Pls Care to Rectify me and this Article definately doesn't Seems Neutral or as per WP:NPOV Maybe You Should Rewrite Those Points. Aditya Prakash-080 (talk) 21:06, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 23 December 2023
 | This edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
122.161.76.169 (talk) 12:35, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
However, various studies and opinion of Hindu scholars state that Bhumihars are indeed a high priestly caste, they are Brahmins although it is not clear that where they might fall in, in the Brahmin group.
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. M.Bitton (talk) 15:24, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
- @122.161.76.169: If you continue misusing Edit request templates or keep otherwise disrupting Wikipedia, including by incivility and personal attacks as you did two days ago, your whole IP range may be blocked from editing. Consider this a final warning. — kashmīrī TALK 23:28, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
Socio-economic condition
- In 2023, Government of Bihar published the data of 2022 Bihar caste-based survey. The survey revealed several findings about the community. It showed that amongst the Forward Castes of Bihar, poverty was highest in Bhumihar caste. Out of total families of Bhumihars residing in state, 27.58% were poor ( The community totally numbered 8,38,447 families, out of which 2,31,211 families were poor). The criteria for determining poverty was a sum of ₹ 6,000 per month as family income.
- This part is coming from current Census. Why you are proving only half information from Census, where are rest of the information about them. And also, saying census non-reliable in case of asked question - which census bhumihar considered as shudra in British census . Can you provide detail? Ayush219 (talk) 22:45, 20 April 2024 (UTC)