Talk:Calligraphy

Latest comment: 1 month ago by Yug in topic Post-2023 clean up

"Celtic Fringe" is derogatory term edit

In relation to items such as the Book of Kells, reference is made to the Celtic fringe. Many consider this term to be derogatory, as is mentioned in the article on Celtic nations. This term is often used to imply that the concerns of these peoples can be dismissed as being as politically peripheral as the regions they inhabit are geographically peripheral relative to the European landmass - a patently absurd and offensive equation.

Sorry if this seems nit-picking but what would be an appropriate temr with which to replace it? "Celtic nations"? The "insular Celts"?

User:pclive 13:06, 21 June 2006 (BST)

British Isles edit

I have changed the phrase "in what is now the British Isles and Ireland" in the Western section to say just "the British Isles". This is a geographic, not a political designation. The British Isles have become the British Isles on geological, not historical, timescales, so using the term "in what is now" is inappropriate in the context of this article. Distinguishing Ireland from the rest of the British Isles when talking about geography rather than politics is a misleading and inaccurate neologism that has arisen through a combination of casual misinformation and misguided partisan zeal. ≈ pclive ≈ you aren't being clear on why you changed it. please make your explanation more accessible, or revert the article.

Armenian Calligraphy edit

I'm still new to the Wikipedia editing scene, but if somebody could, I think adding a section about Armenian calligraphy would be a great edition.

Orphaned references in Calligraphy edit

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Calligraphy's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "auto":

  • From York: UK Census (2011). "Local Area Report – Yorkshire and The Humber Region (2013265923)". Nomis. Office for National Statistics. Retrieved 7 February 2018.
  • From Italic type: "Fairbank". Monotype. Retrieved 30 June 2015.
  • From Suyat: Orejas, Tonette. "Protect all PH writing systems, heritage advocates urge Congress".
  • From Felt: Wonderful West Virginia. Department of Natural Resources. 2005.
  • From Quilting: Johnson, Julie. "History of Quilting". Center for Great Plain Studies. Emporia State University. Retrieved 31 January 2014.
  • From Nepal: lawrence, harris, george; division, library of congress. federal research; matles, savada, andrea. "Nepal and Bhutan : country studies".{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (link)
  • From Stele: G. Azarpay, Urartian Art and Artifacts, 1968, p32.
  • From UV marker: The Art of Manliness, (2014). Man Knowledge: The History of Invisible Ink. [online] Available at: http://www.artofmanliness.com/2011/09/09/man-knowledge-the-history-of-invisible-ink/ [Accessed 31 Oct. 2014].
  • From Oblique type: "Fonts". W3.org. Retrieved 12 November 2011.
  • From UNESCO: "UNESCO adopts anti-Israel resolution on al-Aqsa Mosque". aljazeera.com.
  • From Charlemagne: Barbero, Alessandro (10 September 2004). Charlemagne: Father of a Continent. University of California Press. pp. 12–. ISBN 978-0-520-23943-2.
  • From East Asia: "United Nations Statistics Division – Standard Country and Area Codes Classifications (M49)". United Nations Statistics Division. 2015-05-06. Retrieved 2010-07-24.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT 21:01, 4 June 2018(UTC)

And more. There is a citation to "de Hamel 2001a" with no target. It could be any of these. --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 00:59, 23 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

Post-2023 clean up edit

Hello there, I made a writing push few years back expanding Western and East Asian calligraphies section. Since then the article got enriched with a lot of diverse traditions, which is nice. But this article has also degraded : fragmatation, over illustration, lack of overall organisation. I moved away from this field and can only do few minor edits as I did today, but this beautiful article is in need of an overall rewrite and clean up. May I suggest the following axis of improvements with the example of well documented East Asian calligraphy :

  • Top level section for major tradition. Then level 2 === sections :
    • 0) Overview: few phrases
    • a) Evolution/History: main content.
    • b) Technique/Tools: basics on tools, their uses ; optional illusatration(s).
    • c) Styles : major variations such as cursive, regular, etc.
    • d) Influences/Schools/Traditions : groups the root tradition (Chinese) and other traditions. Mentions briefly Japanese, Korean, Vietnamese, Mongol with their respective differences.
  • Illustrations : limit to 3 per gallery. Keep it minimal since we have 6 major tradition and ~20 national traditions to document.
  • Move around: Vietnam should be with Eastern Asian group, in it's "Influences/Schools/Traditions" sub-section. Philippine in South Asia group. Eastern Europe could be into Western's "Influences/Schools/Traditions" sub-section. Yug (talk) 🐲 16:10, 31 January 2024 (UTC)Reply