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Discussing changes suggested to introduction edit
Please lets discuss these points on the current Druze article versus my suggested changes :
The Druze faith is an esoteric monotheistic religion based on the teachings of several Ismaili figures like Hamza ibn-'Ali ibn-Ahmad and Al-Muqtana Baha'uddin who were influenced by Greek philosophers such as Plato ,Aristotle and Plotinus.
Versus
The Druze faith is a monotheistic and Abrahamic religion based on the teachings of high Islamic figures like Hamza ibn-'Ali ibn-Ahmad and Al-Hakim bi-Amr Allah, and Greek philosophers such as Plato and Aristotle.
Reason for Edit :
- The main distiction about the Druze faith is being esoteric Batini this should be mentioned
- Druze are not an Abrahamic religion but monotheist , the position of Abraham is different for the Druze than the three abrahamic faiths
- high Islamic figures is not accurate , the prophet mohammad is a high islamic figure , Hamza was a preacher , Al-Hakim was the Fatimid Caliph , a more historically accurate and appropriate description is Ismaili
and other philosophies and beliefs, creating a distinct syncretic and secretive theology that is passed on through initiation
Verus :
and secretive theology known to interpret esoterically religious scriptures, and to highlight the role of the mind and truthfulness.
Reason for Edit :
Role of the mind and truthfulness is an over simplification of the Druze theology and its the universal mind nous rather than mind as human mind
− Also
Druze are theologically distinct from Muslims due to their eclectic system of doctrines [1] such as the belief in theophany and reincarnation .[2] , although Al Azhar of Egypt recognized them in 1959 as one of the Islamic sects in the Al-Azhar Shia Fatwa. [3][4][5][6][7]
− − − The Druze were subjected to persecution due to political and religious reasons during the Fatimid, Mamluks and Ottomans rule .[8] Most recently, Druze were targeted by the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant and Al-Qaeda[9] in order to cleanse Syria and neighboring countries of non-Islamic influence.[10]
Reason for Edit : Its important to mention main difference between Druze and orthodox islam as well the source of Fatwa
Also subsituted the persecution paragraph with a summary since its the introduction and details are found in body — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hiram111 (talk • contribs)
References
- ^ "Druze". Britannica.
- ^ Nisan 2002, p. 95.
- ^ "Reforming Islam in Egypt". Economist.
- ^ Nisan, Mordechai. Minorities in the Middle East: A History of Struggle and Self-Expression. McFarland. ISBN 0-7864-5133-5.
- ^ Kayyali, Randa. The Arab Americans. Greenwood Publishing Group. ISBN 0-313-33219-3.
- ^ Sorenson, David. Global Security Watch-Lebanon: A Reference Handbook: A Reference Handbook. ABC-CLIO. ISBN 0-313-36579-2.
- ^ Abdul-Rahman, Muhammed Saed. Islam: Questions And Answers — Schools of Thought, Religions and Sects. AMSA Publication Limited. ISBN 5-551-29049-2.
- ^ Hitti 1924.
- ^ Al-Khalidi, Suleiman. "Calls for aid to Syria's Druze after al Qaeda kills 20". Reuters.
- ^ "Syria: ISIS Imposes 'Sharia' on Idlib's Druze".
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Hiram111 (talk • contribs)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 3 September 2023 edit
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(Disclaimer: I don't speak Arabic, so it would be nice to have an Arabic speaker corroborate or correct me.)
The Arabic words in the lead seem to contain extraneous ḍammāt word-finally, so that they say darziyyu, durziyyu, and durūzu rather than darzī, durzī, and durūz (following the MOS's transliteration conventions for Arabic). So, I propose that we remove the ḍammāt to bring the Arabic text in line with the transliterations; i.e., change the beginning of the lead from the following:
The Druze (/ˈdruːz/;[1] Arabic: دَرْزِيٌّ, darzī or Arabic: دُرْزِيٌّ durzī, pl. دُرُوزٌ, durūz), known to adherents as al-Muwaḥḥidūn (Monotheists) or Muwaḥḥidūn (unitarians), are ...
to the following:
The Druze (/ˈdruːz/;[2] Arabic: دَرْزِيّ, darzī or دُرْزِيّ durzī, pl. دُرُوز, durūz), known to adherents as al-Muwaḥḥidūn (Monotheists) or Muwaḥḥidūn (unitarians), are ...
I checked some Arabic dictionaries, and none of the ones I found that include vowel diacritics put a ḍammah at the end: Pons, Almaany, Bab.la, Sakhr. LethologicalLinguophile (talk) 19:00, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
Done I don't speak Arabic either, but this has been uncontested for a month, so assume good faith. * Pppery * it has begun... 21:46, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
References
- ^ "Definition of druze". Dictionary.com. 2013-07-18. Retrieved 2019-08-26.
- ^ "Definition of druze". Dictionary.com. 2013-07-18. Retrieved 2019-08-26.
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 5 December 2023 edit
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89.115.113.22 (talk) 09:18, 5 December 2023 (UTC) druse are good people and are basically apart of islam
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. M.Bitton (talk) 12:23, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
Confusion? edit
In Druze#Closing_of_the_unitarian_call, I see this confusing statement: "... state that this confusion is due to confusion about ...". Can someone elaborate and/or explain? Thanks, Crum375 (talk) 21:36, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
- Yeah I didn’t get this 82.37.100.240 (talk) 22:38, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
Redundancy in the Lead Section edit
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"Adherents of the Druze religion call themselves simply 'the Monotheists' (al-Muwaḥḥidūn)" is already stated in the opening sentence ("The Druze, who call themselves al-Muwaḥḥidūn (lit. 'the monotheists' or 'the unitarians')..."). Remove the "Adherents of..." sentence, redirect "al-Muwaḥḥidūn" or "the monotheists" in the opening sentence to "The People of Monotheism", and move the source (Wendy Doniger, 1999) to after the phrase "who call themselves al-Muwaḥḥidūn (lit. 'the monotheists' or 'the unitarians')".
- Done Deltaspace42 (talk • contribs) 12:49, 16 December 2023 (UTC)