Template talk:Webarchive
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WP:WEBARCHIVES gives details of (all?) available web archiving services. This may be helpful when discussing this template and its Lua module.
Yeah I made that page, and this template, the template is largely up to date displaying those archives. But thanks for linking to that page it is relevant. -- GreenC 15:48, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
webarchive use of {{use dmy dates}}, etc.
The usage of "webarchive" should use the stated date format:
Archived 2019-10-23 at the Wayback Machine
Top routes from YYC at the Wayback Machine (archived 2019-10-23)
like "cite web":
"Top routes from YYC". Archived from the original on 23 October 2019.
--User-duck (talk) 15:34, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
It was originally designed WYSIWYG to avoid adding a new argument |df=iso for those who prefer it display ISO (or whatever). There is also a contingent of people who prefer that archive-dates be in ISO, and other dates in full, so it's not totally clear making longer date strings would be preferred by default. -- GreenC 19:14, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
Use of the template potentially leaves date formats out of line within articles. Autoformatting is already in place for citation templates, meaning that all dates contained within the templates are rendered to the reader according to the desired format designated by {{use dmy dates}} or {{use mdy dates}} irrespective of the format of each underlying date within the template. I suggest that it would be useful for this template to use this Autoformatting feature to ensure that dates are cromulent in accordance with MOSNUM.
At present, {{webarchive|title=Top routes from YYC|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20191023150550/https://www.flightradar24.com/data/airports/yyc|date=October 23, 2019}} displays as :
Top routes from YYC at the Wayback Machine (archived October 23, 2019)
despite there being a {{use dmy dates}} on the page. Note that even {{webarchive|url=https://web.archive.org/web/20191023150550/https://www.flightradar24.com/data/airports/yyc}} (which has no date parameter) displays as
Archived 2019-10-23 at the Wayback Machine
, and it is impossible to modify the date format in this case short of adding the |date= parameter, which is rather a waste of time.
Whilst indeed there are readers who prefer different date formats that are permitted for archive-dates – be it yyyy-mm-dd, dmy or mdy – these formats are already overridden within citation templates. However, editors have the means of modifying the display characteristics by adding parameters to the {{use dmy dates}} template as indicated at Help:Citation_Style_1#Dates​. The same could be done with this template. -- Ohc ¡digame! 15:48, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
Date localization
I want this template/module to accept the following date formats on bs.wiki (I used "January 4, 2014" as an example):
and by default display the first one. Is this possible? – Srđan (talk) 17:24, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
Template-protected edit request on 29 April 2021
"Archive.today" is uppercase, but the original and Wikipedia page names are lowercase (archive.today). Is it possible to correct it? Thank you. (talk) 10:58, 29 April 2021 (UTC)
 Done Elli (talk | contribs) 00:31, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
As a logo it is lowercase, but when used in grammatical sentences not so sure. Unclear the wiki page is accurate or consistent (there are cases of upper in the article). Since it is a proper noun lean towards upper, but also the template is not producing full grammatical sentences, space, brevity and clarity take precedent. -- GreenC 00:42, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
I think it makes sense to keep it lowercase - it looks like the article only uppercases it at the start of sentences (Since July 2013, archive.today supports the Memento Project application programming interface (API)). Elli (talk | contribs) 00:48, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
I'm alright with that. We do cap WaybackMachine and Internet Archive but usually not archive.org -- GreenC 00:59, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
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Last edited on 30 April 2021, at 06:27
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