Beshogur

Native name for Khorasani Turkish

Why did you remove that native name i added from Ethnologue? Any explanation? Cookiemonster1618 (talk) 19:05, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

Source? Beshogur (talk) 19:29, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

Ethnologue you can click on the link provided with the speaker population and see it there. Cookiemonster1618 (talk) 20:19, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

Please provide me a link. Beshogur (talk) 20:19, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

https://www.ethnologue.com/25/language/kmz/ Cookiemonster1618 (talk) 20:23, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

I don't have an access, can you quote? Beshogur (talk) 20:39, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

Your probably not registered because its a paywall website. But this is exactly what it says.

Alternate naames: Quchani, West Khorasani Turkic, West Xorasan Turkic, Xorasan, Xorasan Turkic

Autonym: خراسان تركچىسى‎ (Xorasan Türkçesi)

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Northeast, North Khorasan Province, northwest of Mashhad; Bojnurd area (West Quchani, Quchan area (North or Northeast Quchani, probably largest), Soltanabad area near Sabzevar (South Quchani). Cookiemonster1618 (talk) 20:46, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

Are you sure this isn't taken from wikipedia first? "Xorasan Türkçesi" seems odd. Beshogur (talk) 20:47, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

no I havent taken this from Wikipedia this is from Ethnologue I literally quoted to you what they wrote. Cookiemonster1618 (talk) 21:08, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

You know circular references exist? Maybe check internet archive which one put it first. Beshogur (talk) 21:24, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

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Hello

I reverted a few edits by [1] today, more eyes may be helpful. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:12, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

Oh, not again. I can't help on tv series tho. Beshogur (talk) 16:36, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

The articles on the tv-series can (mostly) go hang for all I care, they're mostly ghaztly fan-ish plot recitals, but when there is containment breach into articles on history I get annoyed. Not that I don't admire a fictional character who got actual statues! Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:38, 5 December 2023 (UTC)

Category:Turkoman tribes has been nominated for merging

Category:Turkoman tribes has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Marcocapelle (talk) 17:18, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

Afghanistan turkestan

The demographic picture is wrong and fake uzbeks are only 9% in Afghanista!!!!!!! Most people of balkh are tajiks stop putting wrong images آفریغ (talk) 07:40, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

ANI notice

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.Nourerrahmane (talk) 17:21, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

You're pretending like this is some ANI issue. You're falsely changing the date. Original image file source clearly says after 1844. Beshogur (talk) 20:52, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Coat of arms of Lebanon

By the way, the coat of arms of Lebanon is also mentioned in page 64 of the book “Guide to the flags of the world” [2] 71.239.86.150 (talk) 20:34, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Turkey

Hello. You reverted my edit to Turkey, as you are entitled to do. Can you state why? I do not intend to argue for reinstatement, but if there has been consensus to use the semi-English long name of Republic of Türkiye in the infobox as opposed to the standard long English name preferred by Wikipedia:WikiProject_Countries/Templates it would be helpful to know. Regards, Bazza (talk) 17:59, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

@Bazza 7: Can you check the talk page archives? This had been discussed maybe hundreds of times. Republic of Côte d'Ivoire is also a non-English name. Beshogur (talk) 18:18, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

@Beshogur: I've looked. See what you mean. I'll add a comment to the infobox entry to dissuade others like me from doing the same again. Feel free to move this conversation to Talk:Turkey, or not, as you wish. Bazza (talk) 19:14, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

@Bazza 7: Thanks. Beshogur (talk) 20:15, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

East Turkistan Government in Exile

I just noticed that you have moved East Turkistani Government-in-Exile to East Turkistan Government in Exile without stating a reason or proper discussion. The correct wording should be "government-in-exile", not "government in exile".

Sources:

1. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/government-in-exile
2. https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/government-in-exile
3. https://www.dictionary.com/browse/government-in-exile
4. https://www.oxfordreference.com/display/10.1093/oi/authority.20110803095901917

Furthermore, when describing a government, the adjective should be used (i.e. the British government, the French government, not Britain government, France government). Hence, it should be East Turkistani Government-in-Exile, not East Turkistan Government in Exile. Vic Park (talk) 01:41, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

WP:OR. Did you check how sources use? Beshogur (talk) 12:12, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

That's just bad English grammar. Vic Park (talk) 09:01, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

No it's not. What's even "Turkistani". East Turkistan is not even English, it's Turkestan actually. Beshogur (talk) 12:04, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

It is, bro. The word "East" is English, the word "Turkistan/Turkestan" is a loanword, but it is still English, and its adjective is "Turkistani/Turkestani". Vic Park (talk) 12:18, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

[3] no one uses your example. Beshogur (talk) 12:21, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

[4] I disagree. Vic Park (talk) 12:47, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

Look, it's my last reply.[5] Beshogur (talk) 16:09, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

Bulgars' related articles again.

Hi, sorry to bother you, but would you please take a look at the articles on the Kutrigurs and the Dulo clan. Various IPs have been reactivated with their destructive, biased edits there. Greetings. Jingiby (talk) 12:10, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

Turkish invasion of Cyprus

Hi, you recently reverted an edit of mine relating to the coup, can you please explain why, the coup was executed by elements of Cypriot National Guard,not the Hellenic military, do you have any sources that claim otherwise, if so, may you please present them otherwise that title has to change as it is misleading, maybe "Greek Cypriot coup", "Cypriot coup" or "Cypriot National Guard coup" but keeping it as "Greek military coup" is factually incorrect. ShovelandSpade (talk) 17:11, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Maybe it's because Cypriot National Guard is Greek? Beshogur (talk) 17:32, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

It is Greek Cypriot yes sir, but it is not tied to the Hellenic government, which is what is usually meant by "Greek" in these cases, remember, most wikipedians arent too familiar with the history or genetics of Cyprus and its people so someone seeing "Greek" wouldnt immediately assume Cypriot Naitonal Guard, they would assume Hellenic Armed Forces, would you be ok with it being changed to "Greek Cypriot coup" so it is clearer? ShovelandSpade (talk) 18:00, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

Güler

Please see here where the matter was discussed. Kante4 (talk) 16:41, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

Please do not bite the newcomers

Please do not bite the newcomers as you appear to be doing on Ahmed I:

• Multiple edit summaries of "rv" is entirely insufficient to explain these reversions.
• While they are unsourced which is a problem, the edits appear to be in good faith and do not appear to be vandalism.

Daniel Quinlan (talk) 02:27, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

@Daniel Quinlan: good faith? Those pages are being vandalized since years. And by coincidence, they're same kind of edits. Beshogur (talk) 09:48, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

The issue is that your edit summaries are generally inadequate, especially when you are reverting or undoing an edit. Edit summaries that accurately describe changes help explain Wikipedia standards to new editors, help avoid content disputes and edit warring, and they are also helpful to anyone browsing an article's history. Vague accusations of bad faith and indiscriminately throwing around the term "vandalism" don't remove the need for you to explain your edits and be welcoming to newcomers. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 22:27, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

Category:The Sultan of Two Lands and the Khan of Two Seas has been nominated for deletion

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Deletion of edited content at the Sulaiman Bek article

Hi Beshogur, I just wanted to notify you that there's an user repeatedly trying to delete sourced content about the presence of Iraqi Turkmens in Sulaiman Bek. As you are interested in topics involving Turkic cultures, I hoped you might be interested to help solving that dispute. Respectfully, --Ermanarich (talk) 14:55, 9 April 2024 (UTC)