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Do you have any sources for all these date changes and other "clarifications" you're making? -Jason A. Quest (talk) 21:15, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

Most come from the individual Wikipedia entries on the Gauleiters themselves, or other websites involving the organization and history of the Gaue, such as http://territorial.de/reich/nsdap/gaue.htm Historybuff0105 (talk) 14:46, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

You must make sure you are using WP:RS sources, many, if not most websites do not meet that standard. Kierzek (talk) 20:55, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

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─ The Aafī (^talk) 11:28, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Historybuff0105, However a little note, you should use the cite format while you add the book/journal details at the end of any article you create. See Cite journal and CIte book to know how to do it. An example, I've right now (from article Mamluk Ali Nanautawi) is here.

{{cite book |author1=Mawlāna Nūr al-Hasan Rāshid Kāndhlawi |editor1-last=Deobandi |editor1-first=Nawaz |editor1-link=Nawaz Deobandi |title=Sawaneh Ulama-e-Deoband |publisher=Nawaz Publications |location=[[Deoband]]|volume = 1 |pages=122-150 |edition=January 2000 |language=Urdu |chapter=Hadhrat Mawlāna Mamlūk al-Ali Nanautawi}}

which gives the following result,

Mawlāna Nūr al-Hasan Rāshid Kāndhlawi. "Hadhrat Mawlāna Mamlūk al-Ali Nanautawi". In Deobandi, Nawaz (ed.). Sawaneh Ulama-e-Deoband (in Urdu). 1 (January 2000 ed.). Deoband: Nawaz Publications. pp. 122–150.

if you need any help, please let me know. ─ The Aafī (^talk) 11:38, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

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Council of Ministers for Defense of the Reich

Hi. I wanted to quickly explain some edits I made in connection to the articles about the members of the Council (Göring, et al.). Your description of the Council as a "war cabinet" is fair enough (I don't know if that was yours or Broszat's), but I thought that this was somewhat misleading: "issuing critical decrees without the normal governmental process".

In point of fact, after the Enabling Act of 1933, there was no "normal governmental process" per se, laws were made simply by Hitler signing a decree. Since "normal governmental process" rather implies more than that, i.e. a request from the executive, legislative debate and so on, I thought it best to remove that phrase.

Not that it's pertinent to your edits to the various articles, but to my memory the Council was completely ineffective -- in fact, I'm not sure that they issued any decrees at all, but I'm trying to run that down in my various sources. Best, Beyond My Ken (talk) 01:41, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

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Thank you for your interest in my recent articles and for the suggestion to add WikiProject assessment templates. I will certainly try to add them to future articles. Not being a rater, I did not think that it was within my purview, and I find that they are added relatively quickly (sometimes literally in minutes) by reviewers. Now that I know what to do, I will try to remember to add them, though I will leave the actual ratings to others more experienced in these matters. Thanks once again for your suggestion.Historybuff0105 (talk) 15:44, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

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Gebiete of Generalbezirk Weißruthenien

I appreciate that, according to The United States Holocaust Memorial Museum Encyclopedia of Camps and Ghettos, the Generalbezirk consisted of eleven Gebiete when created.

Yet, Verwaltungsgliederung des Deutschen Reiches und der angegliederten und besetzten Gebiete, nach dem Stand vom Sommer 1942 by de:Heinz Boberach is unequivocal in listing just nine Gebietskommissariate under civil administration, and mentioning that ten more (for a total of 19) were under military administration.

At the same time, Der Verwaltungsaufbau des Reichskommissariats Ostland und seine Voraussetzungen in de:Nation und Staat issue for May 1942 states that Generalbezirk Weißruthenien consisted of 39 Kreisgebiete, further organised into five Hauptgebiete: Minsk, Witebsk, Mohilew, Baranowitschi and Smolensk.

How can we reconcile all these sources into something coherent?

Note that File:Reichskommissariat Ostland Administrative.png and its derivative File:Gen Okrug Belarus Administrative.png are based upon unknown sources, so they shouldn't themselves be used as references. --Crash48 (talk) 20:11, 12 November 2022 (UTC)

Hello Crash48. Thank you for the informative note. It does appear that various sources provide differing accounts of the numbers and names of the gebiete of Generalbezirk Weissruthenien. Also, I believe the Verwaltungsgliederung des Deutschen Reiches states that an additional 10 gebiete were "planned," but remained under military administration. It is unclear whether they ever came into existence. At any event, Nazi Germany was notorious for often changing, reconfiguring and renaming administrative and geographical entities (NSDAP Gaue and SS commands are but two examples). Could it be that the differing sources are relying on different "snapshots in time" to arrive at their conclusions? I think that a plausible case can be made that it is. In which case, can we reconcile the conundrum by incorporating language that states this, perhaps listing the two variants of 9 and 11 (with their associated sources) and noting that they likely may have changed over time? Does that strike you as a reasonable approach? If so, would you like to take a first stab at drafting it? Thank you again for reaching out to attempt to resolve the seeming inconsistency.Historybuff0105 (talk) 23:03, 12 November 2022 (UTC)

Trying to find a well-sourced map, I came across [1] (from an atlas published in March 1942, but the map itself is undated) showing 20 Sitze des Gebietskommissars, out of them four (Bobruisk, Minsk, Mogilew, Witebsk) marked as Sitze von zwei Gebietskommissaren, for a total of 24 Gebietskommissaren in GkWR. How about the following wording? Generalbezirk Weissruthenien was subdivided into Gebiete; according to different sources, it comprised from as few as 9 to as many as 39 such subdivisions. --Crash48 (talk) 12:01, 13 November 2022 (UTC)

I am convinced by the cited map, an authoritative document of the Reichskommissariat Ostland, that 24 gebiete were formally authorized and covered the area of pre-war Byelorussia. I still like the idea of naming the administrative units but 24 is quite a large number, so what if we change the focus to the Hauptgebiete? Something like:

"Generalbezirk Weissruthenien was subdivided into Gebiete (areas). According to different sources, it expanded from as few as 9 to as many as 24 such subdivisions as territory transitioned from military to civilian administration. These were subordinated to four Hauptgebiete (main areas) headquartered in Baranowitschi, Minsk, Mogilew and Witebsk."

Citing the map as an in-line source allows the reader to view the gebiete without having to list them all. Also, the current map in the article could be removed. Does that sound like a reasonable approach? Please feel free to propose any alternate wording. Thank you for the excellent research work in locating this series of maps. Very impressive. Historybuff0105 (talk) 19:22, 13 November 2022 (UTC)

My point was that the number 39 is no less authoritative, here (Jan 1942) quoted by Hinrich Lohse the Reichskommissar for Ostland himself. On the map above, Smolensk is indeed marked as a Hauptgebiet, though (contrary to Lohse's statement) not part of Ostland. How about the following? Generalbezirk Weissruthenien was subdivided into Gebiete (areas). According to different sources, it had from as few as 9 to as many as 39 such subdivisions, as territory transitioned from military to civilian administration. These were subordinated to four or five Hauptgebiete (main areas) headquartered in Baranowitschi, Minsk, Mogilew, Witebsk, and possibly Smolensk. --Crash48 (talk) 09:25, 14 November 2022 (UTC)

I think we are getting pretty close. Lohse does mention that the eastern areas are still under military administration in the army rear area and I still am left with the belief that the 39 gebiete were planned but not actually effectuated. As I am sure you know, the Nazis also had detailed plans to create Reichskommissariats for Moscow and the Caucasus that never came to fruition. How about the following minor tweak:

"Generalbezirk Weissruthenien was subdivided into Gebiete (areas). According to different sources, it had from as few as 9 to as many as 39 such planned subdivisions, as territory transitioned from military to civilian administration. These would be subordinated to four or five Hauptgebiete (main areas) headquartered in Baranowitschi, Minsk, Mogilew, Witebsk, and possibly Smolensk."

I assume you will cite the excellent material you have obtained as in-line references to support the edit. Thank you for your work on this.Historybuff0105 (talk) 16:48, 14 November 2022 (UTC)

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Hi, in this edit to Gleichschaltung you introduced an sfn refrence to "Brozsat 1981" but did not define it. This means that nobody can look the reference up, and adds the article to Category:Harv and Sfn no-target errors. If you could fix this that would be great. DuncanHill (talk) 22:33, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

Hello DuncanHill. Thank you for your observation regarding the problem with this citation. It was the result of confusing two different books by the same author for which I assume full responsibility. I have now corrected the issue. Thanks once again for your diligence. Regards.Historybuff0105 (talk) 15:00, 13 March 2023 (UTC)

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Hello CurryTime7-24. I did not believe my recent edit was controversial or introduced a substantive change to the information that was already contained in the article. It was certainly not my intent to do so. However, I have reviewed the Help info you referred me to, and in future will certainly try harder to adhere to its guidance. Thank you for your review and feedback.Historybuff0105 (talk) 17:40, 3 May 2023 (UTC)

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Hello: this is an article both you and I have worked on. As you know, an ip editor has been in a slow motion edit war for a while now. I would ask that you consider helping me keep up the integrity of this article. Cheers, Kierzek (talk) 15:32, 7 June 2023 (UTC)

Kierzek, I'll be glad to do what I can to help. Usually, you have already reverted the edits when I get around to seeing them, though I have caught one or two. I believe this has been going on in one manner or another since February (the ip address changes but the edit content persists, unchanged). Is there no longer-term solution that can be applied to this annoyance? Though it seems most attempts at rationale explanation/documentation are futile when engaging with these irrational guerrilla-types. Historybuff0105 (talk) 18:19, 7 June 2023 (UTC)

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Thank you for the review and the positive feedback. I always try to adhere to Wikipedia policies, particularly with regard to including sufficient sourcing. It is encouraging to know that one's efforts are appreciated. Thanks again and keep up the good work.Historybuff0105 (talk) 19:50, 2 August 2023 (UTC)

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Hi @Historybuff0105: How goes it? I saw you updated Hans Globke. That was excellent work. You don't happen to have a reference for the block ending "In 1938 Globke received his final promotion of the Nazi period, to Ministerialrat (Ministerial Councilor).". Any help is appreciated. scope_creep^Talk 11:41, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

@Scope creep: Thanks for reaching out. I was able to locate a reference (in German) that supports the passage that you referenced. I have edited the section by cittng the inline reference. I also made some other minor adjustments to improve the chronology of events. Hope this is of assistance to you. Glad to help. Historybuff0105 (talk) 17:48, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

@Historybuff0105: I've updated it into a full citation. Its actually by the historian Erik Lommatzsch, who is mentioned later on the article, wrote a book about his deeds. So it is a really good ref on a section that didn't have one before. Solid work. Thanks. scope_creep^Talk 19:06, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

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An editor made some recent changes to this article; where he inserted the changes include a sentence cited prior to a book by Miller, which I don’t have. I thought you might have the book and could check. Thanks, Kierzek (talk) 15:24, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

User:Kierzek Yes, I have the Miller book and compared it (p. 24) with the edits made. I see one one major difference: Miller does not state that Maurice "appealed successfully and was freed". Also, the source says the de-Nazification sentence was to 4 years in a "labor camp", not a "prison", therefore, the prior version was more accurate. It also does not specifically say that "he spent the rest of his life living in Starnberg" but only that he died there. The other added details are documented by Miller: he was captured by American forces in Starnberg on 25 May and was classified as a Group II offender. Hope this is helpful to you. If I can be of further assistance, please do not hesitate to ask. Always glad to help out if I am able.Historybuff0105 (talk) 18:34, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

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Leaders of the SS & German Police Vols 1 & 2 by Michael Miller

BTW - you may have these two volumes, I don’t know, but I just happen to see them listed on eBay together for a good price. Very worthwhile RS books to have and use on Wikipedia. Kierzek (talk) 15:25, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

Yes, thank you, I have them both and agree that they are invaluable. The volume that I am missing, and would love to acquire, is Miller's Leaders of the Storm Troops. Volume 2. It is listed as out of print on Amazon and a note by Miller indicates that it is to be reissued by another publisher, but that is dated 2018, so I am not hopeful. If you ever see a copy, let me know. And thanks for your excellent and vigilant work in maintaining the integrity of the articles you review. (The thank-you reply vehicle is convenient but not sufficient to allow more expansive comments.)Historybuff0105 (talk) 16:29, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

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Hans Krebs

Hans Krebs, the SS general; wasn’t he only an honorary Gauleiter? Kierzek (talk) 02:04, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

Yes. This is clear in my added text. Also, I listed him as Gauleiter (Honorary) in the infobox but this was changed by another editor; I have no objection to restoring it. Also, do you think the two recently added photos of the same event (23 September 1938) is overkill? I would be OK with seeing the first one with Krebs in profile (and partially out of frame) on the extreme right removed. Other subjects in the remaining photo should be identified, as they are known. What do you think?Historybuff0105 (talk) 15:35, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

That is what I thought, I wanted confirmation. If the info box needs correction, go ahead and do it. Yes, I don’t think there needs to be two photos from the same event. That’s unnecessary redundancy. You can go ahead and proceed on that if you wish. I am out of town until Tuesday and I hate doing any real editing on my cell phone, it’s a pain in the neck. Kierzek (talk) 18:15, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

One additional thought. The main photo shows him in his SS general's uniform, not a Gauleiter's. So maybe restoring the original article title is better?Historybuff0105 (talk) 15:41, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

That’s what I was thinking. Kierzek (talk) 18:17, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

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Diannaa, Thank you for your note. I seldom copy information from other Wiki articles and so am not that familiar with the intricacies of what needs to be done to fully comply with attribution requirements in such instances. I did include two of the original citations (Tetens & Daily Telegraph) and provided a new citation (Zentner & Bedürftig) that I believe covered much of the same introductory material. Also, the reference to the original article in the "see also" note just below the heading, I thought, fully gave credit to the original. I assure you there was no attempt at plagiarism. I see now that I need to be even more careful. I have gone back and added to my edit two additional citations from the original article (Taylor & Goda). Together with your edit summary, this should provide appropriate credit to the original sources. I will endeavor to be more diligent in the future. As always, thank you for your valuable input and editing expertise. Historybuff0105 (talk) 17:27, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

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