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Iris Peterson
The most recent source we have on Iris Peterson is from 2007, which makes it 14 years old. She is about 99. We need better sourcing to show she is alive. I also have to admit I am unconvinced that the sourcing we have adds up to notability. The article also engages in a lot of coatracking, where it talks about changes in regulations on flight attendnants for example without showing in any way that anything Peterson did had any impact on such regulations.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:47, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
Well this [1] is a more recent source, but it is a verbatim quote in the most part from the Wikipedia article, and does not clearly say how they know she is still alive.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:56, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
Alfredo Jadresic
I have just noticed that you "removed Category:Chilean people of Croatian descent" from the article on Alfredo Jadresic. Why did you do that? Do you doubt that he is a Chilean of Croatian descent. I can assure that he is. The name Jadresic is obviously Croatian, and he is a Chilean who lives in Chile. What more is needed? He is in the final stages of a probably terminal illness, so quite soon "is" will need to be "was". Athel cb (talk) 19:00, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
We do not categorize people by the etymogy of their surname. We categorize people by the publicly stated origins of their ancestors and to include these in categories they need to be first mentioned in the article. The best is when you can state that a parent or grandparent emigrated from the place in question. If not that at least a reliable source that says what their ancestral origin is. There are ways people end up with last names that do not reflect their ancestral origin through name change. There are also lots of people for whom their most defining ancestries are not in the main paternal line. For some the main paternal line goes so far back it is not defining. For this reason we do not categorize based on assumptions about last name origin but instead based on explicit statements directly about a person's ancestry. John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:53, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
I note that you haven't answered my question "Do you doubt that he is a Chilean of Croatian descent?" You seem to be applying to Alfredo Jadresic criteria that you do not apply to other people in the list. If you want to be consistent there are many others you need to weed out, for example Luis Advis, Giovanna Arbunic Castro, Paz Bascuñán, Teresa Marinovic. Anyway, this may be academic, because I shall not be surprised if in the next weeks or months there is an obituary in El Mercurio that can be cited. Athel cb (talk) 08:20, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) @Athel cb: it doesn't matter whether anyone "doubts that he is a Chilean of Croatian descent" or not. The key point here is WP:V. If there are no sources cited which explicitly that this person is of Croatian descent, then statements or categorisations to that effect are original research and do not belong on Wikipedia.  — Amakuru (talk) 10:35, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
Essentially what Amakuru said. Verrifiability says that we need clear sourcing that clearly shows that X person belongs in Y category. Due to the immensie size of Wikipedia (over 1 million articles just on living poeople, over sixz million articles on people in total), it us very hard to consistently apply all categories. It is enough for editors to apply rules like verifiability to the articles they find. Other editors are free to weed out other articles from categories, but there is no obligation when you find one article in one category that does not meet verifiability to systemically go through the category and identify all other articles that do not meet it there.John Pack Lambert (talk) 13:03, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
I just created Archive 9
I just created archive 9, which is where I put everything not currently here.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:54, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
Back
Hi @Johnpacklambert: Good to see you back. scope_creepTalk 13:03, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
Almost done with Category:1922 births
I am almost done with the category Category:1922 births. I am planning to move on to Category:1921 births. This will probably happen sometime this week. I am not sure if I need explicit permission to move on to Category:1921 births. It might be a few more days, but it is coming up.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:00, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
@Herostratus: and @ARoseWolf: I am hoping for an answer to the question above.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:08, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
Repinging @Herostratus and ARoseWolf:. You have to ping people in the same edit that you add your signature, or the pings don't work. --Floquenbeam (talk) 15:10, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
Right, JPL, for my part its fine to move on, good of you to check. Herostratus (talk) 20:56, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
Proposed deletion of Mark Petersen (geologist)
The article Mark Petersen (geologist) has been proposed for deletion because it appears to have no references. Under Wikipedia policy, this biography of a living person will be deleted after seven days unless it has at least one reference to a reliable source that directly supports material in the article.
If you created the article, please don't be offended. Instead, consider improving the article. For help on inserting references, see Referencing for beginners, or ask at the help desk. Once you have provided at least one reliable source, you may remove the {{prod blp/dated}} tag. Please do not remove the tag unless the article is sourced. If you cannot provide such a source within seven days, the article may be deleted, but you can request that it be undeleted when you are ready to add one. — Mikehawk10 (talk) 04:39, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
We got this one JPL, it has been unPRODded since it does contain one source. However, if sent to AfD it will probably not survive. But in any case, just let it go and keep working on what you're working on. Herostratus (talk) 07:43, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
Nomination of Mark Petersen (geologist) for deletion
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Mikehawk10 (talk) 00:28, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
How are you doing?
Checking in to see how things are going. Have you completed 1922 Births yet? What do you plan to do next? --ARoseWolf 14:46, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
I completed 1922 births. I have moved on to 1921 births. I plan to go to 1920 births after that.John Pack Lambert (talk) 16:03, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
Great to hear. Always set goals out in front of you. :) --ARoseWolf 18:31, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
Expatriate v. Emigrant
Sometimes it is very hard to sort these two categories out. Arne Dørumsgaard is one example. He moved from Norway to Italy and then lived in the latter place for decades. Still there is no evidence he ever tried to end his connections to Norway or formally gain recognition as a citizen of Italy. I put him as an expatriate, but I can see him being categorized either way.John Pack Lambert (talk) 12:42, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
Hubert Higgs
Hubert Higgs was born in 1911, but is mischaracterized as born in 1921. Although this has no reliation to his role as a religious leader, I will defer to the topic ban and not make any edit on the subject. This note does not have any relevance to religion though, so I am hoping someone else will see this and make the edit.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:24, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
Nomination of Katie Millar for deletion
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As you created the page in 2009, I wanted to let you know. Jacobkhed (talk) 21:12, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
Nomination of Steven D. Bennion for deletion
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schetm (talk) 02:53, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
Move on to 1920
I am getting near the end of editing the 1921 birth category and will fairly soon move on to 1920 births.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:40, 8 October 2021 (UTC)
Category:American reggaeton artists has been nominated for renaming
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Your draft article, Draft:Greg Selkoe
Hello, Johnpacklambert. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Greg Selkoe".
In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.
Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 20:29, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
Hello, John,
I just wanted to explain this notice. You set up a redirect on this page back in 2009 and a now long-gone editor turned the redirect into an article. Later it was moved to Draft space and, after 6 months of non-activity, it got deleted as a CSD G13. Twinkle just posts a notice on the talk page of the original page creator so bingo!, you received this notice for an article you didn't create. Hope this explains things. Liz Read! Talk! 20:34, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
It does. I was confused by this. I do not recall who Selkoe is at all.John Pack Lambert (talk) 22:05, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
@Liz: that template is a little misleading, isn't it, in that it pipes [[Draft:Greg Selkoe|Greg Selkoe]], showing a red link for "Greg Selkoe", even though someone else has recreated the redirect at Greg Selkoe?
John, I am willing to do a history merge at the redirect to reinstate your original redirect at that page, if you would appreciate it. – FayenaticLondon 15:04, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
Probably not worth it. I have no recollection of how I was drawn to edit this at all.John Pack Lambert (talk) 15:10, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
Michel Quoist
Michel Quoist in the article on him is stated to have been born in 1918. However he is for some reasons categorized in the 1921 births category. Considering how broadly the religion topic ban imposed on me is, I am thinking that as a Catholic priest I should not edit this article, but I am hoping posting notice will get lead to someone else fizing this discrepancy.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:37, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
Good catch, John. The 2012 edit changing it to "1918" was based on a statement on the back cover of Christ is Alive (1971), copies of which can easily be seen on eBay. However, reliable sources including BnF (see Wikidata links) state 1921. I have changed the text of the Wikipedia article to 1921. – Fayenatic London 14:56, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
Gerda Warko
I am trying to figure out why we have an article on Gerda Warko at all. It may well be the oldest article as to time of when the news comes from I have seen yet that seems to fail the not news test.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:28, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
Deletion review for Jörg Schilling
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Jörg Schilling. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. GM83 (talk) 01:06, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
Bernard A Yurash
Can you take a look at the article and the deletion discussion for Bernard A Yurash? It popped up on my radar because you had edited the article on topics related to my interests and I wanted to see if you were seeing (or not seeing) the article the way I do. Alansohn (talk) 15:52, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
Jean-Marie Auberson
How has an article like Jean-Marie Auberson existed for 12 years with no sources? No wonder we have articles exist over 15 years as hoaxes. With no sources how in the world do we differentiate the real articles from the hoaxes?John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:17, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
The article has actually existed 17 years, and appears to never have had sources. It has had a tag saying it lacks sources for 12 of those years.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:18, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
Mohammad Bahmanbeigi
This article Mohammad Bahmanbeigi is a true mess. The article has way toomany block quotes, way too many quotes from primary documents. It is worse at a second glance, since some of the quotes are not clearly identified as such. This isnot wiki-source. We do not mass quote past works. The article has huge issues of coatracking. At times it feels like it has turned into a general catchall on the US Point Four Program, and the role of Glen Gagon in educational development in Iran, and the general change of education among the nomadic tribal peoples in Iran. It is unclear exactly how Bahmanbeigi fits into all of this. There is way too much coatracking.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:45, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
I might try to undertake some editing of the article, but with how broadly the religion topic ban was written, I suspect that Glen Gagon would probably fall under it, and editing mentions to Gagon in the aticle on Bahmanbeigi might be problematic. Too much of the aticle is really about Gagon. Gagon may or may not be notable, but if he is notable we should create an article on him, not just coatrack coverage of him in the article on Bahmanbeigi.John Pack Lambert (talk) 19:48, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
Aring Bautista
I am think Aring Bautista probably does not meet inclusion criteria.John Pack Lambert (talk) 12:29, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
Last edited on 15 October 2021, at 12:29
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