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VisualEditor newsletter—July and August 2014 edit
The VisualEditor team is currently working mostly to fix bugs, improve performance, reduce technical debt, and other infrastructure needs. You can find on Mediawiki.org weekly updates detailing recent work.
The biggest visible change since the last newsletter was to the dialog boxes. The design for each dialog box and window was simplified. The most commonly needed buttons are now at the top. Based on user feedback, the buttons are now labeled with simple words (like "Cancel" or "Done") instead of potentially confusing icons (like "<" or "X"). Many of the buttons to edit links, images, and other items now also show the linked page, image name, or other useful information when you click on them.
- Hidden HTML comments (notes visible to editors, but not to readers) can now be read, edited, inserted, and removed. A small icon (a white exclamation mark on a dot) marks the location of each comments. You can click on the icon to see the comment.
- You can now drag and drop text and templates as well as images. A new placement line makes it much easier to see where you are dropping the item. Images can no longer be dropped into the middle of paragraphs.
- All references and footnotes (
<ref>tags) are now made through the "⧼visualeditor-toolbar-cite-label⧽" menu, including the "⧼visualeditor-dialogbutton-reference-tooltip⧽" (manual formatting) footnotes and the ability to re-use an existing citation, both of which were previously accessible only through the "Insert" menu. The "⧼visualeditor-dialogbutton-referencelist-tooltip⧽" is still added via the "Insert" menu. - When you add an image or other media file, you are now prompted to add an image caption immediately. You can also replace an image whilst keeping the original caption and other settings.
- All tablet users visiting the mobile web version of Wikipedias will be able to opt-in to a version of VisualEditor from 14 August. You can test the new tool by choosing the beta version of the mobile view in the Settings menu.
- The link tool has a new "Open" button that will open a linked page in another tab so you can make sure a link is the right one.
- The "Cancel" button in the toolbar has been removed based on user testing. To cancel any edit, you can leave the page by clicking the Read tab, the back button in your browser, or closing the browser window without saving your changes.
Looking ahead edit
The team posts details about planned work on the VisualEditor roadmap. The VisualEditor team plans to add auto-fill features for citations soon. Your ideas about making referencing quick and easy are still wanted. Support for upright image sizes is being developed. The designers are also working on support for adding rows and columns to tables. Work to support Internet Explorer is ongoing.
Feedback opportunities edit
The Editing team will be making two presentations this weekend at Wikimania in London. The first is with product manager James Forrester and developer Trevor Parscal on Saturday at 16:30. The second is with developers Roan Kattouw and Trevor Parscal on Sunday at 12:30.
Please share your questions, suggestions, or problems by posting a note at the VisualEditor feedback page or by joining the office hours discussion on Thursday, 14 August 2014 at 09:00 UTC (daytime for Europe, Middle East and Asia) or on Thursday, 18 September 2014 at 16:00 UTC (daytime for the Americas; evening for Europe).
If you'd like to get this newsletter on your own page (about once a month), please subscribe at w:en:Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Newsletter for English Wikipedia only or at Meta for any project. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 18:14, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
This Month in GLAM: July 2014 edit
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Hello, Nihiltres. :) It seems that an article that I created was PRODded in April 2014. Unfortunately, the tagger doesn't seem to have notified me. I realize that notice is simply a courtesy (people can ignore that whole "Please consider notifying the author/project" business and, alas, do), but had I been notified, I would have put in a little extra time shoring up sources (like this industry website or the JA profile). While the article was only a very basic stub I created to replace a copyvio I had to delete, I only created it because the company seemed to me uncontroversially notable ([1]). It's just a little difficult wading through the billions of hits related to sales. :P Would you mind restoring it so that I can do that now? :) I think if it's to be deleted for non-notability, I'd prefer it go through AFD. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 11:20, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
- Done. My personal take on PROD is that a request for undeletion on a PRODded article invalidates the original justification for deletion. Easy come, easy go, or vice versa, I suppose. :) {{Nihiltres|talk|edits}} 16:09, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks much. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 12:06, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
This Month in GLAM: August 2014 edit
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From a fellow Pointe-Clairian edit
Hello Nihiltres. After first seeing a response you gave to someone on Yahoo! Answers, and following your link to a page move that you had effectuated, and finally landing on your user page, I was surprised at seeing you mention that you're from Pointe-Claire--the place where I was born. Well, I couldn't resist saying "hello"! Hope you're doing well. —JmaJeremy✆✎ 06:32, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
- Cool. I think you're the first other Wikipedian I've heard of from Pointe-Claire. Glad to hear from you. {{Nihiltres|talk|edits}} 15:00, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
Virtua Fighter Characters edit
39.55.52.48 (talk) 22:53, 30 September 2014 (UTC)Hi, I want to view all the articles (not the list of all the characters) about each of the Virtua Fighter characters, especially about Pai Chan and Sarah Bryant. I would be really grateful if you can do this. Please send the articles to elementofmind
gmail.com
Thanks in advance.39.55.52.48 (talk) 22:53, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
- The article Sarah Bryant (Virtua Fighter) exists and you can read it at that link. I don't see any deleted revisions for Pai Chan, but you can always view the last version before it was changed to a redirect. If you want me to check for deleted versions of any other articles, let me know all the applicable page titles. {{Nihiltres|talk|edits}} 02:56, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
Thank you so much. That is exactly what I needed. Actually I am not aware how one finds the redirect link for a page. Say, I want to find the redirect link for the page Akira Yuki (Virtua Fighter), how do I do it? Please guide me.39.55.52.48 (talk) 13:06, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
- When you're redirected, there's a "Redirected from [page]" message at the top of the page to which you're redirected. Clicking on the link in that message will bring you to the redirect page itself; the link it gives you has the "redirect=no" argument added. You can also add that argument manually, e.g. //en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akira_Yuki?redirect=no. {{Nihiltres|talk|edits}} 14:30, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
- Thank you very much. I can now access all the articles I want to. And I learned something new.
Please comment on Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals) Media Viewer RfC edit
You are being notified because you have participated in previous discussions on the same topic. Alsee (talk) 19:21, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
VisualEditor newsletter—September and October 2014 edit
TemplateData is a separate program that organizes information about the parameters that can be used in a template. VisualEditor reads that data, and uses it to populate its simplified template dialogs.
With the new TemplateData editor, it is easier to add information about parameters, because the ones you need to use are pre-loaded.
See the help page for TemplateData for more information about adding TemplateData. The user guide has information about how to use VisualEditor.
Since the last newsletter, the Editing team has reduced technical debt, simplified some workflows for template and citation editing, made major progress on Internet Explorer support, and fixed over 125 bugs and requests. Several performance improvements were made, especially to the system around re-using references and reference lists. Weekly updates are posted on Mediawiki.org.
There were three issues that required urgent fixes: a deployment error that meant that many buttons didn't work correctly (bugs 69856 and 69864), a problem with edit conflicts that left the editor with nowhere to go (bug 69150), and a problem in Internet Explorer 11 that caused replaced some categories with a link to the system message, MediaWiki:Badtitletext (bug 70894) when you saved. The developers apologize for the disruption, and thank the people who reported these problems quickly.
Increased support for devices and browsers edit
Internet Explorer 10 and 11 users now have access to VisualEditor. This means that about 5% of Wikimedia's users will now get an "Edit" tab alongside the existing "Edit source" tab. Support for Internet Explorer 9 is planned for the future.
Tablet users browsing the site's mobile mode now have the option of using a mobile-specific form of VisualEditor. More editing tools, and availability of VisualEditor on smartphones, is planned for the future. The mobile version of VisualEditor was tweaked to show the context menu for citations instead of basic references (bug 68897). A bug that broke the editor in iOS was corrected and released early (bug 68949). For mobile tablet users, three bugs related to scrolling were fixed (bug 66697, bug 68828, bug 69630). You can use VisualEditor on the mobile version of Wikipedia from your tablet by clicking on the cog in the top-right when editing a page and choosing which editor to use.
TemplateData editor edit
A tool for editing TemplateData will be deployed to more Wikipedias soon. Other Wikipedias and some other projects may receive access next month. This tool makes it easier to add TemplateData to the template's documentation. When the tool is enabled, it will add a button above every editing window for a template (including documentation subpages). To use it, edit the template or a subpage, and then click the "Edit template data" button at the top. Read the help page for TemplateData. You can test the TemplateData editor in a sandbox at Mediawiki.org. Remember that TemplateData should be placed either on a documentation subpage or on the template page itself. Only one block of TemplateData will be used per template.
Other changes edit
Several interface messages and labels were changed to be simpler, clearer, or shorter, based on feedback from translators and editors. The formatting of dialogs was changed, and more changes to the appearance will be coming soon, when VisualEditor implements the new MediaWiki theme from Design. (A preview of the theme is available on Labs for developers.) The team also made some improvements for users of the Monobook skin that improved the size of text in toolbars and fixed selections that overlapped menus.
VisualEditor-MediaWiki now supplies the mw-redirect or mw-disambig class on links to redirects and disambiguation pages, so that user gadgets that colour in these in types of links can be created.
Templates' fields can be marked as 'required' in TemplateData. If a parameter is marked as required, then you cannot delete that field when you add a new template or edit an existing one (bug 60358).
Language support improved by making annotations use bi-directional isolation (so they display correctly with cursoring behaviour as expected) and by fixing a bug that crashed VisualEditor when trying to edit a page with a dir attribute but no lang set (bug 69955).
Looking ahead edit
The team posts details about planned work on the VisualEditor roadmap. The VisualEditor team plans to add auto-fill features for citations soon, perhaps in late October.
The team is also working on support for adding rows and columns to tables, and early work for this may appear within the month. Please comment on the design at Mediawiki.org.
In the future, real-time collaborative editing may be possible in VisualEditor. Some early preparatory work for this was recently done.
Supporting your wiki edit
At Wikimania, several developers gave presentations about VisualEditor. A translation sprint focused on improving access to VisualEditor was supported by many people. Deryck Chan was the top translator. Special honors also go to संजीव कुमार (Sanjeev Kumar), Robby, Takot, Bachounda, Bjankuloski06 and Ата. A summary of the work achieved by the translation community has been posted here. Thank you all for your work.
VisualEditor can be made available to most non-Wikipedia projects. If your community would like to test VisualEditor, please contact product manager James Forrester or file an enhancement request in Bugzilla.
Please join the office hours on Saturday, 18 October 2014 at 18:00 UTC (daytime for the Americas; evening for Africa and Europe) and on Wednesday, 19 November at 16:00 UTC on IRC.
Give feedback on VisualEditor at mw:VisualEditor/Feedback. Subscribe or unsubscribe at Meta. To help with translations, please subscribe to the Translators mailing list or contact Elitre at Meta. Thank you!
— Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 00:11, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
This Month in GLAM: September 2014 edit
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VisualEditor newsletter—November 2014 edit
VisualEditor is also available on the mobile version of Wikipedia. Login and click the pencil icon to open the page you want to edit. Click on the gear-shaped settings in the upper-right corner, to pick which editor to use. Choose "Edit" to use VisualEditor, or "Edit source" to use the wikitext editor.
It will remember whether you used wikitext or VisualEditor, and use the same editor the next time you edit an article.
The user guide has information about how to use VisualEditor. Not all features are available in Mobile Web.
Since the last newsletter, the Editing Team has fixed many bugs and requests, and worked on support for editing tables and for using non-Latin languages. Their weekly updates are posted on Mediawiki.org. Informal notes from the recent quarterly review were posted on Meta.
Recent improvements edit
The French Wikipedia should see better search results for links, templates, and media because the new search engine was turned on for everyone there. This change is expected at the Chinese and German Wikipedias next week, and eventually at the English Wikipedia.
The "pawn" system has been mostly replaced. Bugs in this system sometimes added a chess pawn character to wikitext. The replacement provides better support for non-Latin languages, with full support hopefully coming soon.
VisualEditor is now provided to editors who use Internet Explorer 10 or 11 on desktop and mobile devices. Internet Explorer 9 is not supported yet.
The keyboard shortcuts for items in the toolbar's menus are now shown in the menus. VisualEditor will replace the existing design with a new theme from the User Experience / Design group. The appearance of dialogs has already changed in one Mobile version. The appearance on desktops will change soon. (You can see a developer preview of the old "Apex" design and the new "MediaWiki" theme which will replace it.)
Several bugs were fixed for internal and external links. Improvements to MediaWiki's search solved an annoying problem: If you searched for the full name of the page or file that you wanted to link, sometimes the search program could not find the page. A link inside a template, to a local page that does not exist, will now show red, exactly as it does when reading the page. Due to a error, for about two weeks this also affected all external links inside templates. Opening an auto-numbered link node like [2] with the keyboard used to open the wrong link tool. These problems have all been fixed.
TemplateData edit
The tool for quickly editing TemplateData will be deployed to all Wikimedia Foundation wikis on Thursday, 6 November. This tool is already available on the biggest 40 Wikipedias, and now all wikis will have access to it. This tool makes it easier to add TemplateData to the template's documentation. When the tool is enabled, it will add a button above every editing window for a template (including documentation subpages). To use it, edit the template or a subpage, and then click the "Edit template data" button at the top. Read the help page for TemplateData. You can test the TemplateData editor in a sandbox at Mediawiki.org. Remember that TemplateData should be placed either on a documentation subpage or on the template page itself. Only one block of TemplateData will be used per template.
You can use the new autovalue setting to pre-load a value into a template. This can be used to substitute dates, as in this example, or to add the most common response for that parameter. The autovalue can be easily overridden by the editor, by typing something else in the field.
In TemplateData, you may define a parameter as "required". The template dialog in VisualEditor will warn editors if they leave a "required" parameter empty, and they will not be able to delete that parameter. If the template can function without this parameter, then please mark it as "suggested" or "optional" in TemplateData instead.
Looking ahead edit
Basic support for inserting tables and changing the number of rows and columns in tables will appear next Wednesday. Advanced features, like dragging columns to different places, will be possible later. The VisualEditor team plans to add auto-fill features for citations soon. To help editors find the most important items more quickly, some items in the toolbar menus will be hidden behind a "More" item, such as "underlining" in the styling menu. The appearance of the media search dialog will improve, to make picking between possible images easier and more visual. The team posts details about planned work on the VisualEditor roadmap.
The user guide will be updated soon to add information about editing tables. The translations for most languages except Spanish, French, and Dutch are significantly out of date. Please help complete the current translations for users who speak your language. Talk to us if you need help exporting the translated guide to your wiki.
Also, user experience researcher Abbey Ripstra is looking for editors to show her how they edit Wikipedia. Please sign up for the research program if you would like to hear about opportunities.
If you would like to help with translations of this newsletter, please subscribe to the Translators mailing list or contact us directly, so that we can notify you when the next issue is ready. Subscribe or unsubscribe at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Newsletter. Thank you!
— Whatamidoing (WMF) 20:41, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
about editing edit
sir i want to enter one new concept to the wikipedia which does not available in wikipedia but whenever i am going to upload my file it says you need to be confirmed and you have to make 10 edits and 4 days to be passed. what should i really do to upload my content? — Preceding unsigned comment added by V.sureshkumar6160 (talk • contribs) 14:57, November 11, 2014 (UTC)
- If your content is to be freely licensed (either you made it and are choosing to license it that way, or someone else has already released it that way), then you can upload it to Wikimedia Commons and use it as if it were uploaded on Wikipedia. Commons lacks the confirmation requirement for uploading. If it's not freely licensed (you didn't make it and it isn't already freely-licensed, or you're unwilling to license it that way), then you'll need to actually have those 10 edits and 4 days before you upload, and you'll have to jump through all the hoops of the non-free content criteria, which would probably be difficult, because non-free content is limited and discouraged. {{Nihiltres|talk|edits}} 15:26, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
Commons cats in Montreal edit
You're most welcome. Folks at the Commons seem to have created a ton of categories for Montreal buildings and places -- it's quite staggering. I suppose this happened after that rainy 'photograph Montreal day' a year or so ago? Anyway, I'm rather surprised and disappointed that Wikidata isn't automatically generating Commons links, as it does for interlanguage links. I'm no longer active there -- but you'd think this is something that could have been automated quite easily? Shawn in Montreal (talk) 20:40, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
- Maybe? Wikidata is very much a work-in-progress, but it looks like Commons category links are coming, based on the "other projects" beta feature (see mw:Beta Features/Other projects sidebar). I entirely missed the "photograph Montreal day" … while I don't own a proper camera, it's still a missed opportunity to meet other Wikimedians in person. {{Nihiltres|talk|edits}} 20:50, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
- Oh, that's good. Yes, that day was probably longer ago than I recall, but it happened to coincide with a day of record-breaking rainfall. Torrential. Still, they managed to create a lot of photos. I think Jeangagnon is the author of most of those Commons cats: he's been absolutely tireless. best, Shawn in Montreal (talk) 20:58, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
This Month in GLAM: October 2014 edit
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This Month in GLAM: November 2014 edit
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VisualEditor newsletter—December 2014 edit
Did you know?
Basic table editing is now available in VisualEditor. You can add and remove rows and columns from existing tables at the click of a button.
The user guide has more information about how to use VisualEditor.
Since the last newsletter, the Editing Team has fixed many bugs and worked on table editing and performance. Their weekly status reports are posted on Mediawiki.org. Upcoming plans are posted at the VisualEditor roadmap.
VisualEditor was deployed to several hundred remaining wikis as an opt-in beta feature at the end of November, except for most Wiktionaries (which depend heavily upon templates) and all Wikisources (which await integration with ProofreadPage).
Recent improvements edit
Basic support for editing tables is available. You can insert new tables, add and remove rows and columns, set or remove a caption for a table, and merge cells together. To change the contents of a cell, double-click inside it. More features will be added in the coming months. In addition, VisualEditor now ignores broken, invalid rowspan and colspan elements, instead of trying to repair them.
You can now use find and replace in VisualEditor, reachable through the tool menu or by pressing ⌃ Ctrl+F or ⌘ Cmd+F.
You can now create and edit simple <blockquote> paragraphs for quoting and indenting content. This changes a "Paragraph" into a "Block quote".
Some new keyboard sequences can be used to format content. At the start of the line, typing "* " will make the line a bullet list; "1. " or "# " will make it a numbered list; "==" will make it a section heading; ": " will make it a blockquote. If you didn't mean to use these tools, you can press undo to undo the formatting change. There are also two other keyboard sequences: "[[" for opening the link tool, and "{{" for opening the template tool, to help experienced editors. The existing standard keyboard shortcuts, like ⌃ Ctrl+K to open the link editor, still work.
If you add a category that has been redirected, then VisualEditor now adds its target. Categories without description pages show up as red.
You can again create and edit galleries as wikitext code.
Looking ahead edit
VisualEditor will replace the existing design with a new theme designed by the User Experience group. The new theme will be visible for desktop systems at MediaWiki.org in late December and at other sites early January. (You can see a developer preview of the old "Apex" theme and the new "MediaWiki" one which will replace it.)
The Editing team plans to add auto-fill features for citations in January. Planned changes to the media search dialog will make choosing between possible images easier.
Help edit
- Share your ideas and ask questions at mw:VisualEditor/Feedback.
- Translations of the user guide for most languages are oudated. Ukrainian, Portuguese, Spanish, French, and Dutch translators are nearly current. Please help complete the current translations for users who speak your language.
- Talk to the Editing team during the office hours via IRC. The next session is on Wednesday, 7 January 2015 at 22:00 UTC.
- File requests for language-appropriate "Bold" and "Italic" icons for the character formatting menu in Phabricator.
- The design research team wants to see how real editors work. Please sign up for their research program.
If you would like to help with translations of this newsletter, please subscribe to the Translators mailing list or contact us directly, so that we can notify you when the next issue is ready. Subscribe or unsubscribe at Meta.
Thank you! WhatamIdoing (WMF) (talk) 23:37, 20 December 2014 (UTC)
Happy Holidays! edit
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Re-establishing Page for ObjectRocket edit
I wanted to get in touch with you and any other mod who deleted the page for ObjectRocket (software company), and I get your permission before attempting to put one back up.
I was just hired at ObjectRocket, and one of my projects is getting our wikipedia page back. A few months ago they let a sales person edit the page heavily, and she totally spammed it up with sales info, advertising, and bad content -- I'd like to fix that. That attempt is not what we're about, and as a team of developers ourselves, we were really embarrassed that happened.
Our future efforts to be a part of wikipedia are only to contribute to the larger discussion of NoSQL cloud data store providers, and to wikis that link to us (Rackspace, Redis, Hadoop, ElasticSearch, and MongoDB).
Please let me know if it's not okay to move forward, but hopefully we can get back up and running.
Thank You,
Pinkyswearing (talk) 23:48, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
- My first thought is to point out that you have a huge conflict of interest. It doesn't prohibit you from editing the article, but it would be irresponsible of me to not formally discourage you. That said, you don't need my permission to restart the article—Wikipedia doesn't run on that kind of authority … but it would obviously be in your interest to make sure that the article carefully follows Wikipedia's policies and guidelines so that it stays around.
- My suggestion would be that you start the article as a draft (Draft:ObjectRocket) or a user subpage (User:Pinkyswearing/ObjectRocket), and focus on gathering sources. The previous article was deleted under two speedy deletion criteria: G11 (obvious promotion/advertising/spam) and A7 (no assertion of notability). With an effort to maintain neutrality, you can avoid the former, but to avoid the latter you'll want to gather as many reliable, third-party sources as possible, ones that discuss ObjectRocket in depth rather than in passing. With enough of those sources, you can make an article rock-solid by anyone's standards. {{Nihiltres|talk|edits}} 19:35, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
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- Pfff. That cite error's an improvement over the messy manual footnotes it replaced. {{Nihiltres|talk|edits}} 05:00, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
This Month in GLAM: December 2014 edit
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Disputed non-free use rationale for File:Blacksunrising.jpg edit
Thank you for uploading File:Blacksunrising.jpg. However, there is a concern that the rationale provided for using this file on Wikipedia may not meet the criteria required by Wikipedia:Non-free content. This can be corrected by going to the file description page and adding or clarifying the reason why the file qualifies under this policy. Adding and completing one of the templates available from Wikipedia:Non-free use rationale guideline is an easy way to ensure that your file is in compliance with Wikipedia policy. Please be aware that a non-free use rationale is not the same as an image copyright tag; descriptions for files used under the non-free content policy require both a copyright tag and a non-free use rationale.
If it is determined that the file does not qualify under the non-free content policy, it might be deleted by an administrator within a few days in accordance with our criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions, please ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thank you. Stefan2 (talk) 23:17, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
- Hah. I uploaded that in 2006. I wonder if the requirement was even in policy back then, as that upload's older than {{non-free use rationale}}. I've updated the file page appropriately. {{Nihiltres|talk|edits}} 01:09, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
VisualEditor News 2015—#1 edit
Since the last newsletter, the Editing Team has fixed many bugs and worked on VisualEditor's appearance, the coming Citoid reference service, and support for languages with complex input requirements. Status reports are posted on Mediawiki.org. Upcoming plans are posted at the VisualEditor roadmap.
The Wikimedia Foundation has named its top priorities for this quarter (January to March). The first priority is making VisualEditor ready for deployment by default to all new users and logged-out users at the remaining large Wikipedias. You can help identify these requirements. There will be weekly triage meetings which will be open to volunteers beginning Wednesday, 11 February 2015 at 12:00 (noon) PST (20:00 UTC). Tell Vice President of Engineering Damon Sicore, Product Manager James Forrester and other team members which bugs and features are most important to you. The decisions made at these meetings will determine what work is necessary for this quarter's goal of making VisualEditor ready for deployment to new users. The presence of volunteers who enjoy contributing MediaWiki code is particularly appreciated. Information about how to join the meeting will be posted at mw:Talk:VisualEditor/Portal shortly before the meeting begins.
Due to some breaking changes in MobileFrontend and VisualEditor, VisualEditor was not working correctly on the mobile site for a couple of days in early January. The teams apologize for the problem.
Recent improvements edit
The new design for VisualEditor aligns with MediaWiki's Front-End Standards as led by the Design team. Several new versions of the OOjs UI library have also been released, and these also affect the appearance of VisualEditor and other MediaWiki software extensions. Most changes were minor, like changing the text size and the amount of white space in some windows. Buttons are consistently color-coded to indicate whether the action:
- starts a new task, like opening the ⧼visualeditor-toolbar-savedialog⧽ dialog: blue ,
- takes a constructive action, like inserting a citation: green ,
- might remove or lose your work, like removing a link: red , or
- is neutral, like opening a link in a new browser window: gray.
The TemplateData editor has been completely re-written to use a different design (T67815) based on the same OOjs UI system as VisualEditor (T73746). This change fixed a couple of existing bugs (T73077 and T73078) and improved usability.
Search and replace in long documents is now faster. It does not highlight every occurrence if there are more than 100 on-screen at once (T78234).
Editors at the Hebrew and Russian Wikipedias requested the ability to use VisualEditor in the "Article Incubator" or drafts namespace (T86688, T87027). If your community would like VisualEditor enabled on another namespace on your wiki, then you can file a request in Phabricator. Please include a link to a community discussion about the requested change.
Looking ahead edit
The Editing team will soon add auto-fill features for citations. The Citoid service takes a URL or DOI for a reliable source, and returns a pre-filled, pre-formatted bibliographic citation. After creating it, you will be able to change or add information to the citation, in the same way that you edit any other pre-existing citation in VisualEditor. Support for ISBNs, PMIDs, and other identifiers is planned. Later, editors will be able to contribute to the Citoid service's definitions for each website, to improve precision and reduce the need for manual corrections.
We will need editors to help test the new design of the special character inserter, especially if you speak Welsh, Breton, or another language that uses diacritics or special characters extensively. The new version should be available for testing next week. Please contact User:Whatamidoing (WMF) if you would like to be notified when the new version is available. After the special character tool is completed, VisualEditor will be deployed to all users at Phase 5 Wikipedias. This will affect about 50 mid-size and smaller Wikipedias, including Afrikaans, Azerbaijani, Breton, Kyrgyz, Macedonian, Mongolian, Tatar, and Welsh. The date for this change has not been determined.
Let's work together edit
- Share your ideas and ask questions at mw:VisualEditor/Feedback.
- Please help complete translations of the user guide for users who speak your language.
- Join the weekly bug triage meetings beginning Wednesday, 11 February 2015 at 12:00 (noon) PST (20:00 UTC). Information about how to join the meeting will be posted at mw:Talk:VisualEditor/Portal shortly before the meeting begins. Contact James F. for more information.
- Talk to the Editing team during the office hours via IRC. The next session is on Thursday, 19 February 2015 at 19:00 UTC.
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This Month in GLAM: January 2015 edit
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Precious edit
principles over policy
Thank you, veteran user represented by a "sub-section of ... The Garden of Earthly Delights" with cats and blue, for welcoming and warning users, even on Halloween, for categories in the arts and page moves, for cleaning references and constructive additions, for principles over policy, - repeating: you are an awesome Wikipedian (17 July 2007 - My heart is like a singing bird)!
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:56, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
Request for confirmed user right edit
Hi there, I saw on Yahoo Answers (it was about five years ago) that you are able to give out confirmations to people wishing to upload photos to their pages who haven't been confirmed yet.I am trying to upload a photo to the "Erin Coscarelli" page to make her page look a little bit better. I only started my account today and would like to have this done ASAP instead of waiting the 4 days and making 10 edits. Let me know if you're able to do this. Thanks
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erin_Coscarelli
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Aalmeida2191 (talk • contribs) 19:58, March 10, 2015 (UTC)
- All right, I'll give it to you on the condition that you give me a basic description of where you're getting the image and how its use will conform to the copyright portion of the image use policy. Note in particular that images of living people often don't qualify for fair use, since they're usually considered replaceable. I figure that's a fair skill-testing question. :) {{Nihiltres|talk|edits}} 22:11, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
Okay, this is my first time creating a Wikipedia page so bear with me. I have only made edits to already existing pages thus far. The photo I want to use comes from a batch of headshots that were shot by a friend for Erin. Although she is a living person, she herself owns the photos now. Are you looking for more verification than this? Let me know.
In addition, I am creating another webpage from scratch and I was wondering if you could give me some feedback on how to make it better. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aalmeida2191 (talk • contribs) 17:48, March 11, 2015 (UTC)
- OK, I can help you more directly than I thought. The usual worry (and why I asked you the skill-testing question) was to check that you weren't just picking a random image from a Google image search or something.
- In the short term, I've granted you the confirmed right, so you can upload images on Wikipedia, edit semi-protected pages, et cetera. However, it's probably better to upload your image at Wikimedia Commons, where you … didn't actually need the permission. Oh well.
- Either way, you'll want to choose a free license for the image (this allows anyone to use it for any purpose, including commercially) like the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License (CC-BY-SA), and indicate that license on the upload form. Once you've successfully uploaded the picture, add the template {{OTRS pending}} to the file description. From there, you should get the friend who took the picture to email permissions
wikimedia.org, and link to the file so that it's recorded that they gave the permission for the image to be licensed that way. - Let me know whenever you'd like me to look over anything in particular. :) {{Nihiltres|talk|edits}} 21:49, 11 March 2015 (UTC)
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This Month in GLAM: February 2015 edit
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VisualEditor News #2—2015 edit
With Citoid in VisualEditor, you click the 'book with bookmark' icon and paste in the URL for a reliable source:
Citoid looks up the source for you and returns the citation results. Click the green "Insert" button to accept its results and add them to the article:
After inserting the citation, you can change it. Select the reference, and click the "Edit" button in the context menu to make changes.
The user guide has more information about how to use VisualEditor.
Since the last newsletter, the Editing Team has fixed many bugs and worked on VisualEditor's performance, the Citoid reference service, and support for languages with complex input requirements. Status reports are posted on Mediawiki.org. The worklist for April through June is available in Phabricator.
The weekly task triage meetings continue to be open to volunteers, each Wednesday at 11:00 (noon) PDT (18:00 UTC). You do not need to attend the meeting to nominate a bug for consideration as a Q4 blocker. Instead, go to Phabricator and "associate" the Editing team's Q4 blocker project with the bug. Learn how to join the meetings and how to nominate bugs at mw:Talk:VisualEditor/Portal.
Recent improvements edit
VisualEditor is now substantially faster. In many cases, opening the page in VisualEditor is now faster than opening it in the wikitext editor. The new system has improved the code speed by 37% and network speed by almost 40%.
The Editing team is slowly adding auto-fill features for citations. This is currently available only at the French, Italian, and English Wikipedias. The Citoid service takes a URL or DOI for a reliable source, and returns a pre-filled, pre-formatted bibliographic citation. After creating it, you will be able to change or add information to the citation, in the same way that you edit any other pre-existing citation in VisualEditor. Support for ISBNs, PMIDs, and other identifiers is planned. Later, editors will be able to improve precision and reduce the need for manual corrections by contributing to the Citoid service's definitions for each website.
Citoid requires good TemplateData for your citation templates. If you would like to request this feature for your wiki, please post a request in the Citoid project on Phabricator. Include links to the TemplateData for the most important citation templates on your wiki.
The special character inserter has been improved, based upon feedback from active users. After this, VisualEditor was made available to all users of Wikipedias on the Phase 5 list on 30 March. This affected 53 mid-size and smaller Wikipedias, including Afrikaans, Azerbaijani, Breton, Kyrgyz, Macedonian, Mongolian, Tatar, and Welsh.
Work continues to support languages with complex requirements, such as Korean and Japanese. These languages use input method editors ("IMEs”). Recent improvements to cursoring, backspace, and delete behavior will simplify typing in VisualEditor for these users.
The design for the image selection process is now using a "masonry fit" model. Images in the search results are displayed at the same height but at variable widths, similar to bricks of different sizes in a masonry wall, or the "packed" mode in image galleries. This style helps you find the right image by making it easier to see more details in images.
You can now drag and drop categories to re-arrange their order of appearance on the page.
The pop-up window that appears when you click on a reference, image, link, or other element, is called the "context menu". It now displays additional useful information, such as the destination of the link or the image's filename. The team has also added an explicit "Edit" button in the context menu, which helps new editors open the tool to change the item.
Invisible templates are marked by a puzzle piece icon so they can be interacted with. Users also will be able to see and edit HTML anchors now in section headings.
Users of the TemplateData GUI editor can now set a string as an optional text for the 'deprecated' property in addition to boolean value, which lets you tell users of the template what they should do instead (T90734).
Looking ahead edit
The special character inserter in VisualEditor will soon use the same special character list as the wikitext editor. Admins at each wiki will also have the option of creating a custom section for frequently used characters at the top of the list. Instructions for customizing the list will be posted at mediawiki.org.
The team is discussing a test of VisualEditor with new users, to see whether they have met their goals of making VisualEditor suitable for those editors. The timing is unknown, but might be relatively soon.
Let's work together edit
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This Month in GLAM: March 2015 edit
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Userfy Request edit
Can you please userfy this article deleted years ago. I want to work on it. [3] CrazyAces489 (talk) 09:27, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
Done. I undeleted it and moved it to User:CrazyAces489/Eugenio Tadeu. {{Nihiltres|talk|edits}} 16:03, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
ISBN hyphenation beyond 0 and 1 edit
Hi, Nihiltres, I just noticed this edit of yours where you cast the string "3527408568" into "3-527-40856-8". I have been looking for the general hyphenation rule, but in this pattern section in our article ISBN I could only find the rule for ISBNs starting with 0 or 1. Do you have a pointer to the algorithm for the other cases? - DVdm (talk) 20:28, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
- Most of the time, I use the LOC's ISBN converter, which includes a hyphenation function. It's very useful while fixing ISBN errors: one of the most common errors is a missing check digit, and it'll calculate the correct one if you put in a dummy. It won't hyphenate everything, sadly, but it's still pretty decent, and definitely covers the French and German (2 and 3) prefixes at least. If you end up hearing about a broader source of hyphenation rules, let me know—I'd love to improve on the LOC's tool. {{Nihiltres|talk|edits}} 21:07, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
- Ha! Up to now I used a home-brewed little VBS-script, based on that table in our article. It hyphenates the number and verifies the checkdigit, but only for numbers starting with 0 or 1. This web based converter however does a lot more. Brilliant. Thanks a bunch. - DVdm (talk) 08:52, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
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- That edit was still an improvement over what came before; it can stay. {{Nihiltres|talk|edits}} 00:33, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
Max Johnstone edit
the wiki page "max johnstone" is i believe of significance as they play at a semi professional level for fleetwood town, is the son of an ex-professional goalkeeper and the brother of a very well known professional current goalkeeper and should be remained on the site for public viewing.
- OK, but can you show it? Can you provide multiple reliable third-party sources to make the article verifiable? If not, then Max Johnstone isn't "notable", in Wikipedia terms: he doesn't qualify for an article. I also suggest working on the article at Draft:Max Johnstone before trying again in the main (article) namespace. {{Nihiltres|talk|edits}} 19:42, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
This Month in GLAM: April 2015 edit
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