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Changes to Wikipedia

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Moved to Talk:Kristin Goodwin#Changes to Wikipedia

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Hello. I appreciate your attention to General Goodwin's profile, but after discussing with her personally, she wants these changes as they are the truth and read better for the end user. Can you tell me what the issue is please? And why you keep changing it? Thank you in advance. Pagecd (talk) 13:14, 19 May 2023 (UTC)

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Fallout: New Vegas / FNV

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Moved to Talk:FNV#Fallout: New Vegas / FNV

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Help me out here, because this sure seems like a case of rules preventing the improvement of Wikipedia. It's eminently verifiable that Fallout: New Vegas is commonly abbreviated as FNV. Looking back in the page history, I can see I'm not the first to add it. Using a Firefox private window, the game was in multiple first-page results in a search for the letters on Google, DuckDuckGo, and Bing. (There was also a company we have an article on but was not previously listed. I added it, so that's something!) I could follow the advice of WP:DABABBREV and add it to the article, but... is that helpful, or just clutter? To be totally honest, I'd only be doing it to support the entry on the disambiguation page.

If you can consider all this and decide yes, the status quo is really in the best interests of readers, I'll leave it alone. --BDD (talk) 14:56, 1 June 2023 (UTC)

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CS1 error on Musgrave Park Hospital bombing

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Yarp, but that isn't my source: I don't have any more than the |work= and |date= info that was already there. Hopefully the error will spur somebody who does have access to the original source to both verify it and update the {{cite news}}. — Fourthords | =Λ= | 21:08, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

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Yeah, I expected that might be the case. In this instance, not only is the original source still not my own, but I couldn't even load the target page due to technical hurdles I'm suffering. Again, though, when an editor has access to the actual original sources and is spurred to fully kit out those sources, hopefully the ambiguation will slso be specified. — Fourthords | =Λ= | 11:37, 18 August 2023 (UTC)

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I'll be damned, you're right. This should've fixed it. — Fourthords | =Λ= | 21:28, 27 August 2023 (UTC)

Removing sources?

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Moved to Talk:None Pizza with Left Beef#Removing sources?

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I appreciate the expansion, but the source removal confuses me -- it went from fourteen to eight? This one, for example; sure, it's a passing mention, but passing mentions aren't bad. They don't confer notability, of course, but they don't detract from it or anything. jp×g 05:27, 21 October 2023 (UTC)

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proof of life

Just verifying for Sin Shadow Fox (talk · contribs) that I'm the same editor they're speaking with off-wiki. — Fourthords | =Λ= | 01:47, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

Updating date tags on maintenance templates

Hey, small question, but when you update the date parameter on a maintenance template like {{use mdy dates}} (eg here: [1]), what is the purpose of that date change? — HTGS (talk) 22:56, 16 November 2023 (UTC)

I just go ahead and update it for the same reasons the bots do, to indicate the most-recent date that the specific-fomatting conventions were checked. If I'm already in an article's edit, I might as well update the formatting template, which'll save somebody else time and effort down the line when checking articles which haven't had their templates updated in ages. — Fourthords | =Λ= | 00:44, 17 November 2023 (UTC)

Thanks. I guess I’m really asking though why the template would need to be “checked”? Like, it’s not like MDY or DMY date formats would change for an article over time. — HTGS (talk) 04:37, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

As I see it, the template serves two purposes: (1) formatting citation-template dates so that |access-date=2022-04-01 gets automatically rendered in the article as "April 1, 2023" or "1 April 2023"; and (2) to serve as a notice to editors, alerting them to which format they should use.

It's not the template that needs to be "checked", but articles need to be checked periodically to make sure they're using the correct date format. Say you live in the US where the typical date format is MDY, and you often edit US-related topics, where MDY dates are usually appropriate, so you never even need to think about other date formats. However, WP:MILDATE says that articles about the US military should be using DMY dates, but if you don't realize that, and if you don't see the template, you might accidentally use the wrong—MDY—date format in the article while working on it. If I later go to edit USS Dingleberry or Flibbertigibbet Air Force Base, and notice that the {{use dmy dates}} hasn't been updated since 2019, I'll take an extra minute or two to double-check the article's dates, find where you accidentally used the wrong format, and I can quickly fix it while I'm there. Does that make sense? I'm just telling other editors, "Hey, this article's prose was checked for correctly-formatted dates really recently, so you needn't bother." — Fourthords | =Λ= | 22:00, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

Thaaaat makes a lot more sense. Thanks so much for explaining it, honestly. I was going around so confused that it would ever need changing—or even thinking that the older date maybe should have been more important—but setting the date to indicate that the article conforms makes so much sense. — HTGS (talk) 20:40, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

Hey, I'm glad (and more than a little surprised) I could help! — Fourthords | =Λ= | 05:23, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

ANI

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Dispute in Falling from Grace (film) article. Thank you. QuasyBoy (talk) 01:54, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

Hey, more power to ya! Do you need me to read and provide input there, or've you and the preexisting discussion got it covered? — Fourthords | =Λ= | 05:30, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

Just waiting for an administrator to respond to my request. I hope you will participate. QuasyBoy (talk) 07:05, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

If you need me to, I certainly don't mind stopping by and saying "hi!". — Fourthords | =Λ= | 07:53, 23 November 2023 (UTC)

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Violet Keene

In reference to this conversation, you and I last spoke in September 2023 at: Talk:Violet Keene.

To whom this may concern:

Miss Keene (Violet Keene) is my great-grandmother; you'd told me in September, to get her English birth certificate.

I have it; her mother, Minna Keene is listed as the informant, and Violet's birthdate is, in fact, the 8 August 1893.

I can send a photograph as verification, if you'd like to see it. LucilleBall (talk) 06:46, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

Slavica Ecclestone

Would you be so kind to review Slavica Ecclestone's article because there is a very disruptive, irrational contributor Denle1 with a political agenda. Thanks. Dekker2 (talk) 12:33, 3 December 2023 (UTC)

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Pete Postlethwaite edit

I was astonished to discover this edit, in which you removed from a (dead) subject's biography all material within the article body pertaining to his most famous career roles, presumably on the basis that the paragraph was tagged for citation. Do you mind correcting that, please? {{cn}} is an invitation to improvement, not a death sentence, and the article as it stands is massively less evenly-weighted as a result. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 20:09, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

I've now undone the majority of this change. I'd still be keen to know why you made it in the first place. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 18:07, 25 February 2024 (UTC)