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New Page Patrol newsletter October 2022

Hello SD0001,

Much has happened since the last newsletter over two months ago. The open letter finished with 444 signatures. The letter was sent to several dozen people at the WMF, and we have heard that it is being discussed but there has been no official reply. A related article appears in the current issue of The Signpost. If you haven't seen it, you should, including the readers' comment section.

Awards: Barnstars were given for the past several years (thanks to MPGuy2824), and we are now all caught up. The 2021 cup went to John B123 for leading with 26,525 article reviews during 2021. To encourage moderate activity, a new "Iron" level barnstar is awarded annually for reviewing 360 articles ("one-a-day"), and 100 reviews earns the "Standard" NPP barnstar. About 90 reviewers received barnstars for each of the years 2018 to 2021 (including the new awards that were given retroactively). All awards issued for every year are listed on the Awards page. Check out the new Hall of Fame also.

Software news: Novem Linguae and MPGuy2824 have connected with WMF developers who can review and approve patches, so they have been able to fix some bugs, and make other improvements to the Page Curation software. You can see everything that has been fixed recently here. The reviewer report has also been improved.

NPP backlog May – October 15, 2022

Suggestions:

• There is much enthusiasm over the low backlog, but remember that the "quality and depth of patrolling are more important than speed".
• Reminder: an article should not be tagged for any kind of deletion for a minimum of 15 minutes after creation and it is often appropriate to wait an hour or more. (from the NPP tutorial)
• Reviewers should focus their effort where it can do the most good, reviewing articles. Other clean-up tasks that don't require advanced permissions can be left to other editors that routinely improve articles in these ways (creating Talk Pages, specifying projects and ratings, adding categories, etc.) Let's rely on others when it makes the most sense. On the other hand, if you enjoy doing these tasks while reviewing and it keeps you engaged with NPP (or are guiding a newcomer), then by all means continue.
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Backlog:

Saving the best for last: From a July low of 8,500, the backlog climbed back to 11,000 in August and then reversed in September dropping to below 6,000 and continued falling with the October backlog drive to under 1,000, a level not seen in over four years. Keep in mind that there are 2,000 new articles every week, so the number of reviews is far higher than the backlog reduction. To keep the backlog under a thousand, we have to keep reviewing at about half the recent rate!

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New Pages Patrol newsletter January 2023

Hello SD0001,

New Page Review queue December 2022

Backlog

The October drive reduced the backlog from 9,700 to an amazing 0! Congratulations to WaddlesJP13 who led with 2084 points. See this page for further details. The queue is steadily rising again and is approaching 2,000. It would be great if <2,000 were the “new normal”. Please continue to help out even if it's only for a few or even one patrol a day.

2022 Awards

Onel5969 won the 2022 cup for 28,302 article reviews last year - that's an average of nearly 80/day. There was one Gold Award (5000+ reviews), 11 Silver (2000+), 28 Iron (360+) and 39 more for the 100+ barnstar. Rosguill led again for the 4th year by clearing 49,294 redirects. For the full details see the Awards page and the Hall of Fame. Congratulations everyone!

Minimum deletion time: The previous WP:NPP guideline was to wait 15 minutes before tagging for deletion (including draftification and WP:BLAR). Due to complaints, a consensus decided to raise the time to 1 hour. To illustrate this, very new pages in the feed are now highlighted in red. (As always, this is not applicable to attack pages, copyvios, vandalism, etc.)

New draftify script: In response to feedback from AFC, the The Move to Draft script now provides a choice of set messages that also link the creator to a new, friendly explanation page. The script also warns reviewers if the creator is probably still developing the article. The former script is no longer maintained. Please edit your edit your common.js or vector.js file from User:Evad37/MoveToDraft.js to User:MPGuy2824/MoveToDraft.js

Redirects: Some of our redirect reviewers have reduced their activity and the backlog is up to 9,000+ (two months deep). If you are interested in this distinctly different task and need any help, see this guide, this checklist, and spend some time at WP:RFD.

Discussions with the WMF The PageTriage open letter signed by 444 users is bearing fruit. The Growth Team has assigned some software engineers to work on PageTriage, the software that powers the NewPagesFeed and the Page Curation toolbar. WMF has submitted dozens of patches in the last few weeks to modernize PageTriage's code, which will make it easier to write patches in the future. This work is helpful but is not very visible to the end user. For patches visible to the end user, volunteers such as Novem Linguae and MPGuy2824 have been writing patches for bug reports and feature requests. The Growth Team also had a video conference with the NPP coordinators to discuss revamping the landing pages that new users see.

Reminders

• Newsletter feedback - please take this short poll about the newsletter.
• There is live chat with patrollers on the New Page Patrol Discord.
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• If you no longer wish to be a reviewer, please ask any admin to remove you from the group. If you want the tools back again, just ask at PERM.
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New Pages Patrol newsletter June 2023

Hello SD0001,

New Page Review queue April to June 2023

Backlog

Redirect drive: In response to an unusually high redirect backlog, we held a redirect backlog drive in May. The drive completed with 23851 reviews done in total, bringing the redirect backlog to 0 (momentarily). Congratulations to Hey man im josh who led with a staggering 4316 points, followed by Meena and Greyzxq with 2868 and 2546 points respectively. See this page for more details. The redirect queue is steadily rising again and is steadily approaching 4,000. Please continue to help out, even if it's only for a few or even one review a day.

Redirect autopatrol: All administrators without autopatrol have now been added to the redirect autopatrol list. If you see any users who consistently create significant amounts of good quality redirects, consider requesting redirect autopatrol for them here.

WMF work on PageTriage: The WMF Moderator Tools team, consisting of Sam, Jason and Susana, and also some patches from Jon, has been hard at work updating PageTriage. They are focusing their efforts on modernising the extension's code rather than on bug fixes or new features, though some user-facing work will be prioritised. This will help make sure that this extension is not deprecated, and is easier to work on in the future. In the next month or so, we will have an opt-in beta test where new page patrollers can help test the rewrite of Special:NewPagesFeed, to help find bugs. We will post more details at WT:NPPR when we are ready for beta testers.

Articles for Creation (AFC): All new page reviewers are now automatically approved for Articles for Creation draft reviewing (you do not need to apply at WT:AFCP like was required previously). To install the AFC helper script, visit Special:Preferences, visit the Gadgets tab, tick "Yet Another AFC Helper Script", then click "Save". To find drafts to review, visit Special:NewPagesFeed, and at the top left, tick "Articles for Creation". To review a draft, visit a submitted draft, click on the "More" menu, then click "Review (AFCH)". You can also comment on and submit drafts that are unsubmitted using the script.

You can review the AFC workflow at WP:AFCR. It is up to you if you also want to mark your AFC accepts as NPP reviewed (this is allowed but optional, depends if you would like a second set of eyes on your accept). Don't forget that draftspace is optional, so moves of drafts to mainspace (even if they are not ready) should not be reverted, except possibly if there is conflict of interest.

Pro tip: Did you know that visual artists such as painters have their own SNG? The most common part of this "creative professionals" criteria that applies to artists is WP:ARTIST 4b (solo exhibition, not group exhibition, at a major museum) or 4d (being represented within the permanent collections of two museums).

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'bot bug

• Special:Diff/1209038261
• https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Villieria&offset=20240219160000&action=history

Your 'bot is not checking edit histories to see whether edits occur before or entirely after nomination. People editing entirely after nomination can be presumed to have already seen the {{afd1}} notice that was right in front of their noses. ☺ Uncle G (talk) 02:07, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

If you commented in the AfD, you wouldn't have been notified. But yes, excluding users who edited the article post nomination also makes sense. – SD0001 (talk) 05:35, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

HotArticlesBot didn't run at the usual time tonight

The bot usually runs around 2:45am ET but didn't. Stefen Tower_{s among the rest!} ^{Gab • Gruntwerk} 08:56, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

HotArticlesBot also failed to run last night. Stefen Tower_{s among the rest!} ^{Gab • Gruntwerk} 17:24, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

@StefenTower The bot's main developer is retired. I volunteered to be a co-maintainer so that I can help with restarts and looking into infra issues. In this case, it appears to be an occasional issue due to the code not accounting for transient failures from Wikipedia APIs. But I don't have the bandwidth to look into it or fix it.

For the long-term sustainability of hot article lists, I would suggest trying to set them up with {{database report}} instead. Using options like row_template and silent=yes, I believe it's possible to exactly replicate the formatting of the existing lists. This bot is also actively maintained. Let me know if you do this and need any help. – SD0001 (talk) 08:22, 16 March 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for your reply and development ideas as well as restarting this bot. I probably could replicate this as I already figured out the SQL that builds the list and I have experience with template building and styling, but rolling that out to all the projects that use HotArticlesBot results seems like the hard (tedious) part. It also seems a bit concerning that doing that changes this from a single bot run to multiple ones. At any rate, I guess it won't hurt to work on an alternative - I'll let you know when I've come up with something and/or need technical assistance. Stefen Tower_{s among the rest!} ^{Gab • Gruntwerk} 15:26, 16 March 2024 (UTC)

ChristieBot and GridEngine

Hi -- could I ask a favour? I'm at work and won't be able to check on ChristieBot for about ten hours. GridEngine has been shut off, and in theory ChristieBot should still be running, but it's been several hours and I've seen no activity on-wiki. There's a GA backlog drive going on so I would expect to see something. I think it's likely that something has broken. Do you have time to take a look? If it's something at the job scheduling level that you can fix, that would be great. If it's in the code I can get to it this evening. Though I think GridEngine can be turned back on again on request, per the announcement I saw here, while we/I fix whatever needs fixing. Thanks. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 12:32, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

Actually I see ChristieBot just ran, so either you fixed it or it wasn't broken. Thanks! Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 12:59, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

I didn't actually do anything! The cron job appears to be triggering fine every 20 minutes. – SD0001 (talk) 08:24, 16 March 2024 (UTC)

Regarding Good article promotions...

Hello and good afternoon! Sorry for bothering you in case you are busy but i need to notify two issues regarding this page (https://sdzerobot.toolforge.org/gans?user=KGRAMR): The Wing of Madoola listing has an erroneous date (1970-01-01) instead of the date when it was approved by the reviewer (2023-12-28) and Ruiner Pinball (which was approved on 2024-03-12) is not listed there at all despite that i am the person who nominated it, which is odd to say the least. If you can fix those issues in anyway i would be grateful but if not then no worries, it's just some odd stuff i noticed. Thanks and have a good day :) Roberth Martinez (talk) 21:30, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

New Pages Patrol newsletter April 2024

Hello SD0001,

New Page Review queue January to March 2024

Backlog update: The October drive reduced the article backlog from 11,626 to 7,609 and the redirect backlog from 16,985 to 6,431! Congratulations to Schminnte, who led with over 2,300 points.

Following that, New Page Patrol organized another backlog drive for articles in January 2024. The January drive started with 13,650 articles and reduced the backlog to 7,430 articles. Congratulations to JTtheOG, who achieved first place with 1,340 points in this drive.

Looking at the graph, it seems like backlog drives are one of the only things keeping the backlog under control. Another backlog drive is being planned for May. Feel free to participate in the May backlog drive planning discussion.

It's worth noting that both queues are gradually increasing again and are nearing 14,034 articles and 22,540 redirects. We encourage you to keep contributing, even if it's just a single patrol per day. Your support is greatly appreciated!

2023 Awards

Onel5969 won the 2023 cup with 17,761 article reviews last year - that's an average of nearly 50/day. There was one Platinum Award (10,000+ reviews), 2 Gold Awards (5000+ reviews), 6 Silver (2000+), 8 Bronze (1000+), 30 Iron (360+) and 70 more for the 100+ barnstar. Hey man im josh led on redirect reviews by clearing 36,175 of them. For the full details, see the Awards page and the Hall of Fame. Congratulations everyone for their efforts in reviewing!

WMF work on PageTriage: The WMF Moderator Tools team and volunteer software developers deployed the rewritten NewPagesFeed in October, and then gave the NewPagesFeed a slight visual facelift in November. This concludes most major work to Special:NewPagesFeed, and most major work by the WMF Moderator Tools team, who wrapped up their major work on PageTriage in October. The WMF Moderator Tools team and volunteer software developers will continue small work on PageTriage as time permits.

Recruitment: A couple of the coordinators have been inviting editors to become reviewers, via mass-messages to their talk pages. If you know someone who you'd think would make a good reviewer, then a personal invitation to them would be great. Additionally, if there are Wikiprojects that you are active on, then you can add a post there asking participants to join NPP. Please be careful not to double invite folks that have already been invited.

Reviewing tip: Reviewers who prefer to patrol new pages within their most familiar subjects can use the regularly updated NPP Browser tool.

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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:27, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious

Three years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:48, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

ChristieBot/Flask

Hi -- since you were willing to become a maintainer and help sort out the setup of ChristieBot, I was hoping I could ask for another favour. Back in 2022 you helped me get an app.py to respond to https://ganfilter.toolforge.org. Under the new setup it is no longer working; I'm not sure why but I suspect it's partly because flask is not installed. I've put in the example app.py code from flask.org that you recommended last time, from here, and I just get "internal server error". I'm guessing that the venv needs to be rebuilt to include the installation of flask. I've added "flask==3.0.0" to the requirements.txt but am hesitant to rebuild the venv as I don't really understand that mechanism and don't want to disable the bot by screwing it up. If you have a moment, could you let me know what I need to do to get the example app.py to respond? If you don't have time, no problem. Thanks. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 10:11, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Mike Christie, you can see what packages are installed by running webservice python3.11 shell, then ~/www/python/venv/bin/pip list. Flask 3.0.3 is already installed.

Looks like the issue is that the webservice is running on the python3.9 image, while the cronjobs run on the python3.11 image. Venvs are specific to python versions, which is confirmed by going into a python3.9 shell and attempting pip list (it doesn't work). So just restart the webservice and have it run on python3.11. – SD0001 (talk) 15:48, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

That worked. Thanks again! Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 18:11, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

New page patrol May 2024 Backlog drive

New Page Patrol | May 2024 Articles Backlog Drive
On 1 May 2024, a one-month backlog drive for New Page Patrol will begin. Barnstars will be awarded based on the number of articles patrolled. Barnstars will also be granted for re-reviewing articles previously reviewed by other patrollers during the drive. Each review will earn 1 point. Interested in taking part? Sign up here.
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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:15, 17 April 2024 (UTC)