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Please note, MOS:TV does not support the use of episode counts as they serve no encyclopaedic purpose. There is absolutely no reason to add them to articles, even as comments. Please also note that cast members are NOT organsised by the number of episodes in which they air. --AussieLegend (✉) 13:58, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

It seems we need to revisit this (again), per your revert of my edit. It doesn't matter how many episodes they have aired in. Do not reorder cast per episode counts. You have been asked and told time and time again. Alex|The|Whovian^? 21:33, 28 March 2016 (UTC)

This episode summary, in particular "Nathan O'Toole appeared in 2 eps" implies that you are ordering characters based on the number of episodes in which they appear. Is this correct? --11:36, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

Since he appeared in 2 episodes, I moved him from "guest stars" to "recurring cast", as guest stars are normally actors who appear in a single episode of the entire season. This is the explanation for my edit. I usually order cast members for the number of episodes in which they appear (If Maude Hirst appears in 20 episodes and Ivan Kaye in 5, it is clear that she should be listed above him. The majority of cast lists on Wikipedia are arranged like this).TheVampire (talk) 12:56, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

I've moved this back to your talk page to keep it in one place. The way in which we list cast has been the subject of wide discussion and the consensus, which is reflected in WP:TVCAST, is that cast should be organised according to the series original broadcast credits, with new cast members being added to the end of the list. In season articles, cast should be organised according to the season original broadcast credits, with new cast members being added to the end of the list. They should NOT be listed according to the number of episodes in which they appear, and episode counts should not be included. This is why the episode counts that you were adding have been consistently removed. They serve no encyclopaedic purpose and do not aid in listing characters. To use your example, regardless of whether Maude Hirst appears in 20 episodes and Ivan Kaye only appears in 5, if Ivan Kaye was credited in the season before Maude Hirst, he is listed before her, and his position does not change. --AussieLegend (✉) 14:32, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

Just because it's been a while since these posts, doesn't mean you can start doing it at List of Game of Thrones characters again. Alex|The|Whovian^? 13:16, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

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Please be aware that you should only update the episode count and air dates of a television series once an episode has either aired to begun to air, as articles should reflect what has happened, not what will be happening. Black Sails airs at 9/8c; it is only 8.20/7.20c at the moment. The final episode has not begun to air yet. Cheers. -- Alex^TW 00:21, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

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Vikings and caps

Caps for "Vikings" appears generally accepted. Your recent edits are taking the opposite path? MapReader (talk) 16:49, 30 December 2017 (UTC)

I have doubts too, to be honest, because some are using caps and some aren't. If we consider Viking as an ethnicity like Indians, Saxons, etc. then it should always be in caps. But it has to be accepted as a standard by everyone. I actually do not remember who was it who preferred "vikings", but they had an explanation for that, too.--TheVampire (talk) 17:10, 30 December 2017 (UTC)

I suggest that we should take our lead from the Vikings article? MapReader (talk) 18:44, 30 December 2017 (UTC)

I agree. I'll apply Viking(s) on every article.--TheVampire (talk) 21:20, 30 December 2017 (UTC)

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Hi User:TheVampire, can you change to a table for series 1 of Save Me (UK TV series) please? I'm not sure how to do it correctly, it's not a standalone series ([1]). Cheers, --Theo Mandela (talk) 06:39, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
Hi, I meant the proper table or template, like the one here, but one for a UK series with another season on the way, thanks.--Theo Mandela (talk) 15:53, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

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The New Pope

Thank you TheVampire for putting so much effort into the English language article on the fascinating new television series the New Pope, which I am watching on Sky Ireland, I would like to add episode synopsis to episodes 4-8 but can't seem to find anything much in English from Sky or HBO only one-liners (I'm not much good at writing up a lot of my own thoughts myself) would you have anything in Italian from the original broadcaster Sky Atlantic (Italia)? Best wishes Joseywales1961 (talk) 22:56, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

Outlander - appearances

I saw your edit on the list of credited actors for this series. I am puzzled about the notes - which refer to uncredited actors and have been placed against the names of credited actors. This seems wrong to me. In the section right above, there is a list of the principal characters in each series (season), which would seem a sensible place to make a note that some of the characters were played by different actors, in flashbacks or as children etc. It doesn’t seem to make any sense to place such notes within a section that is supposed to set out when the credited actors appear in each series. And, even if it did make any sense, such a note should surely be placed against the characters’ names and not the actors’? MapReader (talk) 07:56, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

@MapReader: Hi. Those younger actors were credited in the closing credits. I moved them from the other lists and I indicated that they were guests or recurring in each notes. It seems logical to me to put them together since it's the same character. I did the same with Vikings. Other options would be to move each note beside the relevant guest or recurring season, like Game of Thrones does, or make a different line for each actor (like Bjorn on Vikings), but these younger actors are not as well known as Nathan O'Toole for instance, so it would be a bit overwhelming. Regarding the other table, that mainly refers to the books so it doesn't indicate for how long an actor plays a character on the show.--TheVampire (talk) 11:04, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

If you keep the notes, I suggest they’d sit more sensibly in the character column, rather than the actor one? MapReader (talk) 13:00, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

I moved them to the 'seasons' part, like Game of Thrones. I think it makes more sense this way.--TheVampire (talk) 13:10, 18 February 2020 (UTC)

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I checked the link, but it leads to a blog, which doesn't source the production codes from anything.--Refuteku (talk) 17:15, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

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you can't decide which are significant or not, since they were all credited together. Yes you can. You just watch it! The actors I deleted all had bit parts with either no lines or only one or two. It is standard practice on Wikipedia not to list entire casts, as you will see by looking at pretty much any article on a film or TV show. -- Necrothesp (talk) 14:44, 28 October 2020 (UTC)

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Hi, TheVampire. Regarding your edit summary, there are actually plenty of non-talk show series like Lost, Orange Is the New Black, and Skins (another teen drama), just to name a few others, that have a standalone "Featured character" parameter. It's actually quite beneficial to have an extra column, especially if the summary spaces ever get hidden due to transclusion. Believe the consistency is useful too. I'm not going to revert because I don't want to edit war, but please see those other series and consider self-reverting. -- Wikipedical (talk) 19:39, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

List of Westworld characters reversion

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Here: MOS:TVCAST. TheVampire (talk) 20:27, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

MOS:TVCAST refers (I think) to the Westworld (TV series)​ article, not the "List of Westworld characters​" article and certainly not the "Appearances" subsection. I don't even think that the MOS refers to the Main/Recurring/Guest characters sections in the List article.

In my opinion, the Appearances section should be in the same order as the three characters sections. After all, the List article is about the characters, not the cast or the original credits. Comments? -RoyGoldsmith (talk) 15:15, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

All the lists should be the same. This was done for countless TV shows (e.g. Game of Thrones). The manual of style has been applied to every list of characters since it was changed. TheVampire (talk) 06:56, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

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Co-star at Mandalorian

Dude, I'm just getting confused. You said that co-stars need to appear in 2 or more episodes and they need to be credited. I'm doing what you said, and it's still not good. Can you please tell me what make a co-star a co-star? 85.65.219.79 (talk) 19:32, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

Hi, per MOS:TVCAST cast lists must be in chronological credit order and follow a specific criteria given by the title of the section (e.g. starring, guest starring, etc.). In the case of The Mandalorian, actors are added to the recurring co-stars list when credited as co-starring for the first time (NOT as guest starring, but co-starring which for this specific show is a higher level of credit) and appearing in more than one episode. Swallow and Fletcher were credited as co-starring for the first time at a later time in the season, despite their previous appearances as guest stars. This makes them recurring but they cannot be listed before other co-stars, as these were credited before them. For the same reason, you cannot add actors credited as guest starring to these lists. A decision was made to only list actors given more prominence in the credits and leave all other appearances to the List of The Mandalorian characters page, so not to clutter season pages. I hope it's clear. TheVampire (talk) 19:44, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

I see. Now for IG-11, I now confirmed that he was credited in Chapters 17, 23 and 24, get appeared in 3 episodes in season 3, according to the character page, a is a returning main character, and he once again voiced by Taika Waititi. So why not adding him? 85.65.219.79 (talk) 19:59, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

Again, he is credited as guest starring for this season, not co-starring like in season one. So he cannot be added to the list. There is a note in the "Recurring co-stars" table on the List of The Mandalorian characters page pointing to this detail. Note that the cast lists on the season pages are just overviews of the main cast. One can dive deeper into every single appearance on the show in the lower section, where one can explain everything in prose. TheVampire (talk) 20:04, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

I see. Thank you for explaining me this 85.65.219.79 (talk) 20:12, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

But I still find it kinda strange how he appear in same amount of episodes in both seasons 1 and 3 each, had a minor role in the first 2 appearances for each season and he doesn't have the statos of a co-star in season 3. Where you can confirm what kind of star is each actor for each season? 85.65.219.79 (talk) 20:16, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

We look at end credits. Everyone credited under "Starring", "Co-starring", "Guest starring", stunts, etc. TheVampire (talk) 20:18, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

Is it written on the paintings which shows scenes from the episodes or after them? 85.65.219.79 (talk) 20:27, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

July 2023

Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did at Domina (TV series), without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear to be constructive and has been reverted. If you only meant to make a test edit, please use your sandbox for that. Thank you. Migsmigss (talk) 18:22, 30 July 2023 (UTC)

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