The Anome

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Support request with team editing experiment project

Dear tech ambassadors, instead of spamming the Village Pump of each Wikipedia about my tiny project proposal for researching team editing (see here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/Research_team_editing), I have decided to leave to your own discretion if the matter is relevant enough to inform a wider audience already. I would appreciate if you could appraise if the Wikipedia community you are more familiar with could have interest in testing group editing "on their own grounds" and with their own guidance. In a nutshell: it consists in editing pages as a group instead of as an individual. This social experiment might involve redefining some aspects of the workflow we are all used to, with the hope of creating a more friendly and collaborative environment since editing under a group umbrella creates less social exposure than traditional "individual editing". I send you this message also as a proof that the Inspire Campaign is already gearing up. As said I would appreciate of *you* just a comment on the talk page/endorsement of my project noting your general perception about the idea. Nothing else. Your contribution helps to shape the future! (which I hope it will be very bright, with colors, and Wikipedia everywhere) Regards from User:Micru on meta.

ArbCom Elections 2016: Voting now open!

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NHRP detaggables

So, I ended up here: User:The Anome/NHRP detaggables because of this redirect, Skeleton Cave Massacre Site. I recently created Skeleton Cave (Arizona), and when I was linking other pages to the article, I found the detaggables page. In scanning your list, I came across Work, John, House and Mill Site which I then linked to John Work House and Mill Site which has existed since 2006.

It occurred to me that there may be a number of pages already in existence, but since they are not formatted the same as what's on this page, they aren't being identified as being done. I'm trying to think on how to solve this problem. --evrik ^(talk)

Tech News: 2024-13

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• An update was made on March 18th 2024 to how various projects load site, user JavaScript and CSS in Vector 2022 skin. A checklist is provided for site admins to follow.

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 26 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 27 March. It will be on all wikis from 28 March (calendar). [1][2]

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The Signpost: 29 March 2024

• Technology report: Millions of readers still seeing broken pages as "temporary" disabling of graph extension nears its second year

• Interview: Interview on Wikimedia Foundation fundraising and finance strategy

• Special report: 19-page PDF accuses Wikipedia of bias against Israel, suggests editors be forced to reveal their real names, and demands a new feature allowing people to view the history of Wikipedia articles

• Op-Ed: Wikipedia in the age of personality-driven knowledge

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• Humour: Letters from the editors

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Nomination of Where is Kate? for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Where is Kate? is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Where is Kate? (3rd nomination) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.

IgnatiusofLondon (he/him • ☎️) 11:43, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

"Simulated reality" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect Simulated reality has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 April 1 § Simulated reality until a consensus is reached. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 13:51, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – April 2024

News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2024).

Administrator changes

• Kbdank71
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• An RfC is open to convert all current and future community discretionary sanctions to (community designated) contentious topics procedure.

Technical news

• The Toolforge Grid Engine services have been shut down after the final migration process from Grid Engine to Kubernetes. (T313405)

Arbitration

• An arbitration case has been opened to look into "the intersection of managing conflict of interest editing with the harassment (outing) policy".

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• Editors are invited to sign up for The Core Contest, an initiative running from April 15 to May 31, which aims to improve vital and other core articles on Wikipedia.

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Tech News: 2024-14

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• Users of the reading accessibility beta feature will notice that the default line height for the standard and large text options has changed. [3]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 2 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 3 April. It will be on all wikis from 4 April (calendar). [4][5]

Future changes

• The Wikimedia Foundation has an annual plan. The annual plan decides what the Wikimedia Foundation will work on. You can now read the draft key results for the Product and Technology department. They are suggestions for what results the Foundation wants from big technical changes from July 2024 to June 2025. You can comment on the talk page.

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MediaWiki message delivery 03:34, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

Group insult moved to draftspace

Thanks for your contributions to Group insult. Unfortunately, I do not think it is ready for publishing at this time because it has no sources. I have converted your article to a draft which you can improve, undisturbed for a while.

Please see more information at Help:Unreviewed new page. When the article is ready for publication, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page OR move the page back. JoeNMLC (talk) 21:19, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

Znanie (educational organization, founded 1947) moved to draftspace

Thanks for your contributions to Znanie (educational organization, founded 1947). Unfortunately, I do not think it is ready for publishing at this time because it has no sources. I have converted your article to a draft which you can improve, undisturbed for a while.

Please see more information at Help:Unreviewed new page. When the article is ready for publication, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page OR move the page back. JoeNMLC (talk) 21:36, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

@The Anome may I help you with this page? 77.250.100.119 (talk) 12:27, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

Yes, please. — The Anome (talk) 23:04, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

Tech News: 2024-15

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• Web browsers can use tools called extensions. There is now a Chrome extension called Citation Needed which you can use to see if an online statement is supported by a Wikipedia article. This is a small experiment to see if Wikipedia can be used this way. Because it is a small experiment, it can only be used in Chrome in English.
• A new Edit Recovery feature has been added to all wikis, available as a user preference. Once you enable it, your in-progress edits will be stored in your web browser, and if you accidentally close an editing window or your browser or computer crashes, you will be prompted to recover the unpublished text. Please leave any feedback on the project talk page. This was the #8 wish in the 2023 Community Wishlist Survey.
• Initial results of Edit check experiments have been published. Edit Check is now deployed as a default feature at the wikis that tested it. Let us know if you want your wiki to be part of the next deployment of Edit check. [6][7]
• Readers using the Minerva skin on mobile will notice there has been an improvement in the line height across all typography settings. [8]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 9 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 10 April. It will be on all wikis from 11 April (calendar). [9][10]
• New accounts and logged-out users will get the visual editor as their default editor on mobile. This deployment is made at all wikis except for the English Wikipedia. [11]

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MediaWiki message delivery 23:35, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

Nomination of Microsoft ION for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Microsoft ION is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Microsoft ION until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.

Allan Nonymous (talk) 16:35, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

Tech News: 2024-16

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems

• Between 2 April and 8 April, on wikis using Flagged Revisions, the "Reverted" tag was not applied to undone edits. In addition, page moves, protections and imports were not autoreviewed. This problem is now fixed. [12][13]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 16 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 17 April. It will be on all wikis from 18 April (calendar). [14][15]
• Default category sort keys will now affect categories added by templates placed in footnotes. Previously footnotes used the page title as the default sort key even if a different default sort key was specified (category-specific sort keys already worked). [16]
• A new variable page_last_edit_age will be added to abuse filters. It tells how many seconds ago the last edit to a page was made. [17]

Future changes

• Volunteer developers are kindly asked to update the code of their tools and features to handle temporary accounts. Learn more.
• Four database fields will be removed from database replicas (including Quarry). This affects only the abuse_filter and abuse_filter_history tables. Some queries might need to be updated. [18]

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MediaWiki message delivery 23:27, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Community Database License Agreement

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You may want to consider using the Article Wizard to help you create articles.

A tag has been placed on Community Database License Agreement requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about web content that does not credibly indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please read more about what is generally accepted as notable.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator. Fram (talk) 11:05, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Autopatrolled

Considering the recurring issues with many of your creations (deletion, draftification, ...), would you consider removing the "autopatrolled" status from your account? Fram (talk) 11:09, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

And now Draft:Final (C++), a mainspace article sourced to a wiki and a blog? If you don't voluntarily remove autopatrolled, I'll raise this at ANI (or whichever is the best board to ask for removal of userrights). Fram (talk) 09:56, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Has there been a recent change in article notability requirements? I have been regularly creating articles for over 20 years without complaint until recently, when there seems to have been a spate of draftification of my recently created articles in the last couple of months; the previous convention seems to have been to treat stub articles as seeds, not to immediately draftify them. There is certainly no question of the notability of the 'final' keyword, or indeed Lyneal, which you will now see has multiple sources. For example, I can quite easily source the "final" article to the C++11 standard, if you'd like: here you go: [19], [20]. A few moments more would find book sources; Am I right in thinking you'd be willing to un-draftify the article if I did that?

If you want to piss me off, immediately threatening me with ANI is a good way to do it. I'd appreciate a more civil approach before reaching for the big guns. — The Anome (talk) 15:09, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

(ec) If you had answered the first post in this thread, then there would not have been a need to "immediately"(?) threaten you with ANI. And there are more requirements for articles than just being on a notable subject, I'ld hope you would be aware of this. Extremely poor or completely lacking sourcing are not acceptable from experienced editors. Fram (talk) 15:16, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

This just gets worse, you know. Are you really claiming that having a Github page in any way establishes any kind of notability? Really? Or a "working draft" of a primary source, the developers of C++? Fram (talk) 15:24, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

I'm sorry I didn't respond to your earlier message. You have a point about sourcing, and I'm happy to up my sourcing game. But seriously, are we no longer doing stub articles? — The Anome (talk) 15:21, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Stub articles are no problem. Unsourced or very badly sourced ones (or ones on non-notable subjects) are a problem though. Fram (talk) 15:24, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

@Fram: By the way, we have seem to have tens of thousands of articles about sportspeople whose cites are only really mentions-in-passing in databases, which seem to fall short of the standards you require. Or listings of places in countries similarly sourced only to database entries. Should all of these be draftified? Would you like to start with Benito Calderón? I'd be happy to provide you with a feed of similar articles to keep you busy. — The Anome (talk) 15:24, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

(ec)Standards for sportspeople have been tightened, people have been essentially banned for not adhering to them (and other issues), see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Conduct_in_deletion-related_editing#Lugnuts. And no, we normally don't mass draftify them (although even that has happened in the past in some cases, and many are e.g. redirected to lists), but we do try to stop the influx of new problematic or sub-standard articles. Fram (talk) 15:36, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

We could easily delete tens of thousands of such poorly sourced articles. Is this a project you'd like to take on? Also, would you mind reviewing Draft:Lyneal and Draft:Final (C++), and let me know if they now meet your sourcing standards? — The Anome (talk) 15:41, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS, the problems with other articles are no excuse to let you continue to make poor articles without getting them reviewed by NPP. And I see that you still use e.g. that wiki as a source for the C++ article, and have added yet another blog, and a book by the main designer of the language, and another primary source. Fram (talk) 15:54, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

So, let's get this straight. An official Microsoft publication is not a valid source? The official ISO standard for a programming language is not sufficient to establish notability, and a book by Stroustrup is not a valid source for an article about C++? — The Anome (talk) 15:58, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

The official standard for a programming language is not sufficient to establish notability for every aspect or detail of that programming language, no. Why would it? I'm not arguing that C++ isn't notable after all, that would be ridiculous. Please reread WP:N and the requirement for independent sourcing to establish it. The book by Stroustrop is a valid source for content, but again not to establish notability. Fram (talk) 16:02, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Community Database License Agreement moved to draftspace

Thanks for your contributions to Community Database License Agreement. Unfortunately, I do not think it is ready for publishing at this time because it needs more sources to establish notability. I have converted your article to a draft which you can improve, undisturbed for a while.

Please see more information at Help:Unreviewed new page. When the article is ready for publication, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page OR move the page back. TheGreatestLuvofAll (talk) 13:20, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Lyneal moved to draftspace

Thanks for your contributions to Lyneal. Unfortunately, I do not think it is ready for publishing at this time because it has no sources. I have converted your article to a draft which you can improve, undisturbed for a while.

Please see more information at Help:Unreviewed new page. When the article is ready for publication, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page OR move the page back. JoeNMLC (talk) 18:56, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Tech News: 2024-17

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• Starting this week, newcomers editing Wikipedia will be encouraged to try structured tasks. Structured tasks have been shown to improve newcomer activation and retention. [21]
• You can nominate your favorite tools for the fifth edition of the Coolest Tool Award. Nominations will be open until May 10.

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 23 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 24 April. It will be on all wikis from 25 April (calendar). [22][23]

Future changes

• This is the last warning that by the end of May 2024 the Vector 2022 skin will no longer share site and user scripts/styles with old Vector. For user-scripts that you want to keep using on Vector 2022, copy the contents of Special:MyPage/vector.js to Special:MyPage/vector-2022.js. There are more technical details available. Interface administrators who foresee this leading to lots of technical support questions may wish to send a mass message to your community, as was done on French Wikipedia. [24]

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