Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pablo Sciuto

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. After three relists and more than five weeks of discussion, there's still no agreement about whether the sources are sufficient to meet the GNG. (non-admin closure) Extraordinary Writ (talk) 23:02, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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a Non-Notable musician who Fails WP:GNG & WP:RS , it Fails WP:MUSICBIO . a Non-Notable Musician that has never charted on any national Charts . NOT even a single song of him was on charts , a Non-Notable musician who has No significant coverege on independent relieble sources , WP:RS .. NOT even a single news coverage of him , i cant find him on any major newspapers or magazines , a Non-Notable Musician that has NO news coverege or relevant to speak about ... i DONT understand how this musician is Notable , what makes him Notable --- i dont know .... i DONT understand how this article manage to come into the Mainspace , the topic of this article Fails wikipedia Notability guildlines . it Fails WP:GNG & WP:RS , it Fails WP:MUSICBIO Samat lib (talk) 08:51, 10 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. Samat lib (talk) 08:28, 10 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Uruguay-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 08:30, 10 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Spain-related deletion discussions. Samat lib (talk) 08:46, 10 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Wholly non-notable both re general notability and WP:MUSICBIO. PK650 (talk) 01:21, 16 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 13:28, 17 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The singer-songwriter and poet Pablo Sciuto is a well-known musician in Uruguay collaborating with famous institutions such as Casa América, Sala Zitarrosa in Montevideo, he has been active since the 90s and is a cult figure in uruguayan underground culture and also a renowned singer-songwriter in Spain mentioned in books such as "Y la palabra se hizo música" by the famous musicologist Fernando Lucini, in addition, the Wikipedia article has been active for many years almost since the beginning of Wikipedia and was created by the algorithm itself in the past. I have provided valuable references to consider this article as remarkable despite the fact that some users consider it that way because they want it to only appear in Top music charts.^[1]

^[2] Almadediamante (talk) 11:58, 21 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

comment . @Almadediamante (talk . the casa America , reference you provided is just an ordinary press release from a blog that does NOT show any sign of Notability , AGAIN the references you provided are all a waste of time , please what we need is a multiple significant coverege of him from an independent relieble sources . remember before i Nominated this article for Deletion , i already google it all on search ; there is NO Significant coverege of him from an independent relieble sources , NOT even a single major news coverage of him --- He is a Non-Notable musician who Fails WP:GNG & WP:RS , it Fails WP:MUSICBIO . Please try to accept the fact , wikipedia has rules and guildlines . Samat lib (talk) 09:09, 24 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment The article is written in a promotional manner, but the length of his discography would indicate some form of notability, as does the entry in Proud Stories, which in and of itself seems to be garbage but these type of site name-drop notable people to generate clicks. That said I'm also having trouble finding any coverage, but I don't know where to look for Spanish sources, and Google has this habit of showing what it thinks is relevant to you (and it knows I'm in the US and speak English, etc), not what's actually out there. It would be nice if there was a little more context about the Lucini book. Does "mention" mean he's in a list of band members, or are there three paragraphs about him on page X? There is this, which looks good on the surface but it would be easy for me to miss the obvious on it. I think this should also be analyzed for reliability and independence. Unless the book has something, all the current references in the article do not count towards notability, either not independent or not in-depth. Wish I had easy access to indexed Uruguayan newspaper archives. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 20:38, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Comment this article look like a self promotional essay . As long there is NO multiple significant coverege of him from an independent relieble sources WP:RS , NOT even a single news coverage of him from a major newspaper or magazine , it Fails WP:MUSICBIO , this article will NOT survive Samat lib (talk) 16:14, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 18:17, 30 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ "Pablo Sciuto in the cycle "Música en Palacio" of the Ibero-American institution Casa América of Spain". Casa América (in Spanish). Retrieved 20 June 2021.
^ "Pablo Sciuto is mentioned in the book "Y la palabra se hizo música" by the famous spanish musicologist Fernando Lucini". Google Books (in Spanish). Retrieved 21 June 2021.

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Vanamonde (Talk) 23:00, 9 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - Not really sure what's going on in this AfD, and my Spanish isn't good enough to evaluate the sourcing here. I want to mention that his webpage lists several secondary sources he supposedly is discussed in, including e.g. this book. Suriname0 (talk) 16:39, 16 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

[1] "Pablo Sciuto in the cycle "Música en Palacio" of the Ibero-American institution Casa América of Spain". Casa América (in Spanish). Retrieved 20 June 2021.

[2] "Pablo Sciuto is mentioned in the book "Y la palabra se hizo música" by the famous spanish musicologist Fernando Lucini". Google Books (in Spanish). Retrieved 21 June 2021.

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