I agree with KPB that some articles, such as the ones he describes, are difficult to link to and most such links would be entirely artificial (just keeping the bots at bay). Any way that you could exclude specific categories from the bots activities? There are special cases out there and bot designers need to be aware of them, despite the wish to make the application as general as possible, which I also understand. Mikenorton
) 11:10, 16 February 2009 (UTC)Good god, are you going to listen, if I answer, since I explained it in all my posts, and now you're asking me why? It's inappropriate because obscure botanical species may not have any more links that to a list of genera, or, if it's been inappropriately created at the species level and should be a genus article, to the family. Not all genera lend themselves to a list within an article, some genera are huge, hundreds of species, meaning their parent article may be very large and full of information the makes adding a list of all
of the genera pointless. In which case, there may be a separate page with a list of genera, and lists are specifically excluded from counting as the type of link that is considered a valid link. So, an obscure plant species may naturally only be mentioned in only one article. It's linked upwards to its genus, and its family, the latter being the primary taxonomic unit for plants. Family pages would be the natural place, then, to wikilink to species articles, except, again, some families are so huge that their species lists would be hundreds of thousands of bites, again, making the list an impossible asset for reader usage in the family article, and again, requiring a separate list only page, that would be excluded from the viable links that would forestall an "orphan" tag. So, at best, many obscure species of plants could have only one link, if it is in a genus with a only a few species, and that link would be from a list within the article. Other possible links would be artificially created solely for the purpose of wikilinking, as above, red flowers, three-petaled flowers. This would be original research, which is against policy, not just guidelines.
Now, the reason I am "insanely specific" about plant species (don't call people names, it's not civil), is that is only matters in plant species articles, and in animal species articles, and probably in a few other organisms, as a function of the criteria for notability for organism species articles: if it's got a scientific name, it's notable. The issue does not arise with higher order taxa in plant articles, as there is no reason that higher order taxa should be without links to the article
because the higher order taxa are all extensively linked through species taxoboxes.
And, in addition, many plant species stubs and other organism species stubs will be very short articles, with less text than the tag. The tag itself links to a wikiprojects page, and, as such, should be on a talk page, not an article page, because it is not linked to information for the user
, but rather, info for potential editors. Article space is not the proper location for recruiting editors for projects.
) 11:21, 16 February 2009 (UTC)