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mapping = { # Header / misc 'boxtype' => nil, # only support boxtype = 'locomotive' 'Farbe1' => nil, # color 'Farbe2' => nil, # color 'Baureihe' => 'name', 'Abbildung' => 'image', 'Name' => 'caption', # General 'Nummerierung' => '', # "Number(s) allocated to the vehicle(s)" 'Hersteller' => 'builder', 'Baujahre' => 'builddate', 'Indienststellung' => 'firstrundate', 'Ausmusterung' => 'retiredate', 'Anzahl' => 'totalproduction', 'Wheel arrangement' => 'whytetype | aarwheels', # ambiguous? which one is it? 'Achsformel' => '', # same as above 'Gattung' => '', # some form of class (eg "S 37.19") 'Spurweite' => 'gauge', 'Höchstgeschwindigkeit' => 'maxspeed', # Wheels (should wheelbase sub-params be used in [[Template:Infobox locomotive]]?) 'Laufraddurchmesser vorn' => 'leadingdiameter', 'Laufraddurchmesser hinten' => 'trailingdiameter', 'Laufraddurchmesser außen' => '', # Outer carrying wheel diameter, Garratt locomotives 'Laufraddurchmesser innen' => '', # Inner carrying wheel diameter, Garratt locomotives 'Laufraddurchmesser' => '', 'Treibraddurchmesser' => 'driverdiameter', # Weight, dimensions and Axles 'Leermasse' => 'locoweight', # "Total weight of vehicle when empty" 'Dienstmasse' => 'tenderweight', 'Reibungsmasse' => 'weightondrivers', 'Radsatzfahrmasse' => 'axleload', 'Höhe' => 'height', 'Breite' => 'width', # Steam traction / cylinders 'Zylinderanzahl' => 'cylindercount', 'Zylinderdurchmesser' => 'cylindersize', 'Kolbenhub' => '', # "[[Piston stroke]] - I think current template requires this to be <br>'d onto cyclindercount, if so, that should probably be changed in template" 'Heizrohrlänge' => '', # Heating tube length. totalsurface/tubearea is provided, but this is an area, not a length? 'Rostfläche' => '', # "Grate area" 'Strahlungsheizfläche' => '', # "Radiative heating area, Firebox + combustion chamber" 'Überhitzerfläche' => '', # Superheater area 'Verdampfungsheizfläche' => '', # Evaporative heating area, Firebox heating area + combustion chamber + heating tubes + smoke tubes (total heating area) # Misc 'Steuerungsart' => 'valvegear', 'Tenderbauart' => '', # Tender 'Wasser' => 'watercap', 'Brennstoff' => 'fueltype + fuelcap', # in practice, may solely be 'fuelcap' 'Lokbremse' => 'locobrakes', 'Bremsen' => 'trainbrakes', # Undocumented 'VorneLaufraddurchmesser' => '', 'HintenLaufraddurchmesser' => '', 'LängeÜberPuffer' => 'length/over bufferbeams', # ? 'Kesseldruck' => 'boilerpressure', 'AnzahlHeizrohre' => '', 'AnzahlRauchrohre' => '', 'IndizierteLeistung' => '', 'HDZylinderdurchmesser' => '', 'NDZylinderdurchmesser' => '' }
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2020 February 1Football_squad_player2 ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
2020 February 1Football_squad_player ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
Note Pending Redesign RfC robertsky (talk) 18:51, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
I've closed the RfC. Mdaniels5757 (talk) 15:15, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
At this point this is ready for large scale replacement. I said a while ago that I could do it but due to me being quite busy IRL this seems unlikely to get done in a timely manner. If you feel like doing a large scale replacement job feel free to take this one. --Trialpears (talk) 17:34, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
Trialpears, what large-scale replacement? I (foolishly?) jumped into this rabbit hole, and have been in it for over a day now. This is a very complex merge; I've got the documentation diff to show fewer differences, but there's still more to be done. – wbm1058 (talk) 15:04, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
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2020 October 22Loc ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
This one has 572 that match insource:/\{\{loc\}\}/, with no template parameters. Those seem like a straightforward conversion to {{Country study}}. Then the remaining 110ish templates with parameters could be cleaned up separately. Could probably get AWB in bot mode to do the 572. Does that sound like a good idea? Should I try to get a bot flag to help with that? –Novem Linguae (talk) 06:47, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
I can get it, just never had the time or inclination to pick apart the various uses. I've set up a tracking category to find the non-parameter uses, so once that populates I should be able to knock it out fairly quick. Primefac (talk) 21:49, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
I worked a bit on this a while ago, probably going a bit beyond what is strictly necessary when filling in parameters. It's worth noting that (countarary to the docs) that Kazakhstan and many other countries don't have their own country studies but are combined to something like Kazakstan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, and Uzbekistan or Indian Ocean : five island countries. Also worth noting that these were made between 1988 and 2015 meaning that you may have weird situations with both the Soviet Union and Russia having country studies and there being plenty of other former countries to consider. I've also seen quite a few already broken links. My point being that care should be taken to make sure the links are correct and point to the intended target. --Trialpears (talk) 22:03, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
I recommend using standard {{cite encyclopedia}} citations and converting these to footnotes (rather than generic endnotes) as we go. I have pre-made encyclopedia citations for all country studies, plus a page with comparisons using Earwig to the relevant country studies here: Wikipedia:WikiProject Library of Congress Country Studies/Reference fixing. Example edit here. Calliopejen1 (talk) 17:37, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
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2021 May 31 :Category:Exclude in print ( links | transclusions | talk | doc | sandbox | testcases )
Module:Asbox#L-167 if I'm not mistaken is where the stub pages come from. --Gonnym (talk) 15:00, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
The noprint class should probably be added instead though. Don't have time to check on it rn though. --Trialpears (talk) 15:13, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
Just to quote the edit summary, Listing this here so it doesn't get forgotten about, since it was part of the TfD (even though I think TfD is the wrong venue for categories). While TfD is the wrong place for category nominations, categories can be added to a nomination if said category would be eligible for G8 deletion (i.e. categories dependent on a now-deleted or changed template). In this particular instance, its inclusion in the Asbox module indicates that {{Hide in print}} and/or {{Only in print}} were not the only templates that were populating the category, and thus it is not G8'able. Primefac (talk) 15:47, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
I can nominate at CfD if so desired. I will quote my relevant comment from the discussion here as to why I found it sensible to include it in the TfD nomination.
I am well aware of the rules for what should go where but choose to ignore them in this case. I believe the more technical audience would have more opinions on Category:Exclude in print and that it would be unnecessary to fork this discussion to two places. If you think there would be an actual benefit in nominating it at CfD I'm happy to withdraw it and renominate it. For the time being I've dropped a note at WT:CFD in case the CfD crowd is interested.
This got no response and I presumed it was considered fine. --Trialpears (talk) 15:54, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
I remved the cat from asbox yesterday. If there are no objections in the next few days I will proceed with removal. Otherwise I'll start a CfD. --Trialpears (talk) 11:51, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
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