Wikipedia talk:Protection policy

Latest comment: 1 month ago by Daniel Quinlan in topic Superprotect

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File mover / Page mover

@Daniel Quinlan: Re Special:Diff/1210478149, they're not quite the same: to move a file you need to be an admin or file mover, to move a category you need to be an admin or page mover. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:47, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

Thanks. Without it being linked, I didn't see it being a different term. Fixed. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 13:56, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

Superprotect

I'd like to talk about the story we're telling in WP:SUPERPROTECT. Compare these two versions:

  • "where the MediaViewer had been deactivated in a wheel war involving two administrators...the community was discussing what to do"
  • "used the same day to override community consensus"

One of these is from our policy. One of these is from Meta-Wiki.

Here are the diffs that seem relevant to me, at 21:58, 22:13, 22:15 on 9 August. I believe that the technical change made it impossible to use Media Viewer, even if you wanted to use it yourself and enabled it in your own preferences. The admin who made the first and third edits was de-sysopped as soon as their policy allowed them to do so.

Additionally, this tool was used several times at other wikis, at the request of communities, to solve problems they were having.

I think that the story we're telling is ultimately misleading. Perhaps we should change it, or maybe just remove it? WhatamIdoing (talk) 01:12, 19 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

Would this be acceptable as a replacement for that paragraph?

Superprotect was a level of protection, allowing editing only by Wikimedia Foundation employees who were in the Staff global group. It was implemented on August 10, 2014 and removed on November 5, 2015. It was only used on two occasions on other Wikipedia editions.

I think that's sufficient for something that something that happened almost ten years ago. The current version of the paragraph is a little too editorial and the linked MediaWiki page and its talk page are the appropriate locations for a historical summary and any discussion on it. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 00:55, 20 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
Yes, I think that would be much better.
About the last sentence, I know it was used on Wikidata, and I'm not certain that it was only twice. (I heard once five total uses, but I don't know whether that's true.) Perhaps the more relevant point would be "never used at the English Wikipedia". WhatamIdoing (talk) 01:23, 20 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
That works for me. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 03:43, 20 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
Would you like to make the change? WhatamIdoing (talk) 03:47, 20 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
Done. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 03:54, 20 March 2024 (UTC)Reply