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Massinissa of the Rif edit

(Sorry for my english, i'm french) Hello. I think someone have to read Massinissa of the Rif. This page will be (perhaps) deleted on WP:fr : https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion:Massinissa_du_Rif/Admissibilit%C3%A9 and has benne deleted on Wp:en : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Massinissa_of_the_Rif I think the subject is a joke with a spam on many wiki, as here. Cheers. Arroser (talk) 01:29, 24 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for pointing this out - I have reviewed and nominated the page for deletion. ~ UDScott (talk) 14:36, 1 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

Help in creating new wikiquote pages for films edit

Hello @UDScott,

Happy holidays! I admire your contributions to the English Wikiquote. I'm eager to delve into other sections, specifically films and literary works, and believe you're the ideal person to guide me. How can I initiate this process? Where should I begin gathering sources? Would it be possible for you to mentor me?

I eagerly await your response.

Warm regards. Ebubechukwu1 (talk) 17:37, 29 December 2023 (UTC)Reply

Sure, I can offer some support and help. The first place I would send you is Help:Starting a new page - which is an easy way to create new pages that automatically places the correct template on the new page for you to begin working with. This should help reduce any necessary cleanup of your new pages as you create them. As for sources, the best is the film or literary work itself. Users often use sites like imdb, but be forewarned that such sites are not always 100% accurate - and they often do not have quotes in the exact order in which they appear in a film. ALso, be mindful of the number of quotes from a film that you include - not everything needs to be quoted (and see WQ:Limits on quotations for some guidance on how many to include). Once you get started, I can offer some more specific suggestions as appropriate, based on your additions. Good luck! ~ UDScott (talk) 14:31, 1 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

Need some help. edit

Incredibly unrelated but could you please tell this user (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bbb23) to unblock me, I've sent a unblock request. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:2603:6000:B800:EB4:31C8:BE4:7D2A:305A# (Side note I sent this to another person so if he gets a similar message regarding this then please state beforehand that any spam attempt was not intended.) 2603:6000:B800:EB4:31C8:BE4:7D2A:305A 21:27, 19 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

Sorry, I have nothing to do with any blocks on Wikipedia. I suggest you take it up there. ~ UDScott (talk) 11:52, 20 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

Please return Draft:Jenny Bryan edit

Please return Draft:Jenny Bryan. I was half-way through working on it, and thought that, similarly to wikipedia draft space was the place to do so. Is that not the case? Newystats (talk) 08:29, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

I've undeleted it - sorry it did not have the appearance of a legitimate page, but yes you are correct, draft space is for working on not-yet-ready pages. ~ UDScott (talk) 14:01, 27 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

Marco Polo needs help edit

I need help linking my French Wikiquote page with those of other languages, would you please help me?

this is the page [1]--Lecorbursier2 (talk) 13:18, 6 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

edit

I was wondering if I could use my Wikiquote contributions for the purposes of political campaign fundraising or whether that would somehow be considered paid editing despite none of the money going to me. Paid editing is something I would like to know the definition of and how it differs from receiving financial benefit. For example, if you make residuals from having worked on a film, would it be paid editing to make changes to the wikiquote page for that film? If you work for a corporation isn't it a conflict of interest if you added nothing but negative quotes to the page for that corporation's main competitor? What if you're the mayor of a city, can you make edits to the page for that city? What if a family member benefits financially from your edits, like a mayor that benefits from the work of their child editing about their city, it seems pretty extreme to forbid people from editing certain topics because of circumstances beyond their control. Does being imprisoned for your edits count as a form of payment, it does result in food and shelter you might not otherwise have?
From my present, largely uninformed, point of view a strict definition of paid editing would effectively prevent scientists from writing about their areas of expertise and it would prevent most government employees from writing about pretty much anything, because it seems like pretty much everything has become politicized at this point. Is Wikiquote supposed to be like how the Olympics used to be, where only amateur athletes but not professional athletes were allowed to compete?
Maybe this is a better question for the village pump, but I'd prefer an answer from someone who knows what they are talking about because they enforce this rule, so I figure I'd ask you or at least ask to speak to another administrator who does enforce this rule. I know this is a lot of questions to ask at once, but I don't want to get banned because I felt like doing charity and right now that's what I'm afraid of, amongst other things. Am I not supposed to have any friends as a Wikiquote editor, because it feels like I don't have any and I'm starting to wonder if I'm even allowed to have them if I'm forbidden from going to a restaurant with them because it looks too much like I'm taking a bribe. This website has left me feeling alienated and I would appreciate some clarification from an administrator that doesn't self-identify as an anarchist and ignores all the rules anyways, that way I can at least decide whether continuing to edit is worth the isolation, if indeed that is the cost of editing. CensoredScribe (talk) 15:25, 17 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

I'm not quite sure that I can fully answer your questions (or that I have the knowledge or weight to properly do so), but regarding your first statements regarding using Wikiquote contributions in order to politically fundraise, I would say that is not a proper use of the site. As to your other points that everyone in some way, large or small, probably has some level of conflict of interest with respect to the pages they edit or how they edit them. This is also why it is good to have third=party, independent sources, especially for living people. If such a conflict (especially more direct ones) is made known, then it is likely that an editor would be questioned on this and their edits would be scrutinized with skepticism. I don't think a site such as Wikiquote can govern out all of these conflicts - that would just be too unwieldy - but to the extent that any strong conflict of interest is known, we can try to remain vigilant for obvious bias. That's all we can do. Sorry, not sure if my answers help or not - I would encourage you to open these questions to a larger audience, but perhaps in a more general sense (I wouldn't open with a desire to use Wikiquote to further political campaigns). ~ UDScott (talk) 19:39, 18 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
Thank you for answering my question, I will leave out the part about political fundraising, I'm glad I have an official excuse not to include Wikiquote in the process, as some might think that I, or they themselves, have some kind of obligation to do so.
I thought a political group might have been a good choice for organizing an editathon to improve Wikiquote, similar to the ones I've seen advertised on university campuses for addressing Wikipedia's gender disparities, but I don't think political campaigners have a lot of free time around the elections. University students don't normally have a lot of free time either which is why I found Wikipedia asking for outside assistance from new editors in increasing their coverage of famous women little more than a desperate plea for help and an admission of having a problem they can't take care of on their own by creating a safe environment that more women are interested in being part of. I imagine there's an ethnicity gap in both editors and coverage, as well as the gender gap, but that issue isn't talked about as much because it starts to sound racist when Wikipedia breaks down it's editors by their blood quantum.
Students don't have time to help Wikipedia or #SheSaid create greater gender parity for the coverage of every conceivable topic when their reproductive rights are at stake, if you want to address the lack of Wikipedia editors that identify as female than do a campaign about reproductive rights. I guarantee that is a topic students will find time for, because if they don't, they might end up finding lots of free time, in jail.
I would still appreciate an answer on whether jail counts as a form of payment for edits because if it does than wouldn't being a slave count as paid editing? Aren't shackles a form of payment? What about human trafficking transportation costs? If I think another editor is using forced labor to edit, should I even bother to report it if it's not even a violation of our rules? Wikipedia says nothing about using slave labor being against the rules either, even though it could happen on a Wiki just as easily as it happens on major dating websites as part of Pig Butchering Schemes.
I think it's messed up that I feel that I have to ask this community for clarification as to what kind of person I am allowed to date to avoid being banned for bribery or what jobs I am allowed to work and continue to edit the pages that interest me. I have seen no other editor ever ask these permissions. CensoredScribe (talk) 17:15, 24 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

Family Guy Season 8 Quotes edit

Hello, since you disallowed “unapproved” users from editing the page for Family Guy’s eighth season, I’m just here to ask you why you’re so adamant about the nonsensical “only two quotes per episode” rule for that specific page when LITERALLY ALL THE OTHER FAMILY GUY PAGES HAVE BROKEN THIS RULE!!! 2603:7000:1200:825A:C40:B47A:C353:6B90 17:15, 20 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

And I'm in the process of looking at all the other season pages - and either trimming them or posting a copyright notice to signify that they need to be trimmed. By the way, it is based on WQ:LOQ. Thanks. ~ UDScott (talk) 17:16, 20 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
I think that rule is BS. As long as it’s not the entire script it should be fine. And what “copyright notice”? Is Fox really going to take this wiki to court over this? 2603:7000:1200:825A:C40:B47A:C353:6B90 17:23, 20 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
Actually the reason for the limit being established was because of concerns about using too much copyrighted material that could result in the site being shut down - it happened in the past for other wikiquotes sites. The copyright notice is on the talk page for each of the pages where there were too many quotes. ~ UDScott (talk) 17:28, 20 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
I’m sorry I bothered you, and that I came off too brash. I didn’t realize the copyright law to be that serious. I’ll leave you alone own 2603:7000:1200:825A:C40:B47A:C353:6B90 17:33, 20 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

WQ generally edit

Hi UDScott, I thought to pose some three of the most venerable users here an important question I just can't seem to figure out: why do you think, WQ has such an horrendous page rank on most search engines? Why wouldn't e.g. a very expansive WQ article on a relatively niche intellectual always top a short and potentially skewed WP article? Indeed, I think, especially for controversial leaders from historical scientific, religious and or politics, having a representative WQ entry is much more insightful than the overly curated alternative. What might be the exact reason for this very noticeable skew? Do you also believe that, maybe, the aforementioned inclusion of certain figures' exact quotes, from politically incorrect up to and including borderline defamatory, has - rightly or not - lead to the actual WMF, well, somehow hardcoding this inferior status into the platform regardless of quality? Any clarification would be extremely helpful! Biohistorian15 (talk) 14:22, 25 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

Actually, I have wondered this myself over the years - I know that Wikipedia usually shows up pretty high in any google search, but I always have to add to the search to get it to pull up wikiquote. Unfortunately, I do not know the answers to your queries. I don't think it is based on how expansive a given WQ page is , nor the quality of said page. So I do suspect it is something in the algorithms used (or even hard coded), but I don;t really have any factual insights to offer. I do think it's a good question to ask - perhaps at a higher level than just on here. ~ UDScott (talk) 14:58, 25 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
I see. Thanks for your swift reply! I suppose I could always ask this over at the Wikiquote Village Pump, but other than that I don't really know of any person - other than some WMF staffer and or, maybe, Steward (*both unlikely to actually answer me lol) - in particular. Do you perhaps? Biohistorian15 (talk) 15:10, 25 March 2024 (UTC)Reply