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STOP STOP STOP adding no license tags edit

I’m trying to clean them up somewhat systematically, mass-adding pages DOES NOT HELP. PLEASE STOP. (Also, get permission before using a bot?) TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 15:41, 3 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

  • Do I need to spam your talk page as much as you spam the template? When did your bot get approved? TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 16:03, 3 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
    Don't be ridiculous. It's a maintenance tag. Not everyone can deal with the ridiculously over-complicated PetScan query. Seriously. (Also AWB doesn't require bot approval on enWS) —Beleg Tâl (talk) 16:05, 3 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
    • I’m not saying that everyone has to use the PetScan query—I know how cumbersome it can be. As people mentioned in the discussion (in which you participated), there is a better way of doing things than just adding the template everywhere. This is especially so where the license is easy to add. You have already added it around 1,500 times (just checking quickly over your recent contributions), which does not help a structured approach to tackling this problem. (Again, this is especially so where the template has a more dire message than the reality of the situation.) TE(æ)A,ea. (talk) 16:08, 3 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

I have asked for the tags to be added, because it helps me. --EncycloPetey (talk) 22:02, 3 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for your {{btsn}} undertaking! edit

Seems like our projects are aligned again! I'm constantly using (and annoyed with) sidenote templates and I just want to thank you for setting up [[Template:Beleg Tâl's sidenotes]] as a placeholder. I'll definitely be using it going forward (especially in my current Bible projects), and I'm looking forward to seeing how it develops. Feel free to reach out and complain about sidenotes whenever!

SpikeShroom (talk) 22:52, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

Blenheim column of victory edit

Hello.

I would like to ask you about the changes at Text on the Column of Victory in the grounds of Blenheim Palace.

Back in 2006, I visited the location of the column, took close-up photographs of the column with sufficient resolution to allow the text to be transcribed, then myself transcribed the text on the south face of the column, which contains an (entertainingly biased) account of the Battle of Blenheim - a not insignificant amount of work. I also uploaded the photographs - the photographs of the south face as a source for which my transcription could be verified, and if necessary corrected, and the photographs of the other faces of the column in order to enable other people to transcribe the text of those to expand the page. I believe that the north, east and west faces contain the text of a private Act of Parliament that gave the estate to the Duke of Marlborough.

In 2007, somebody else added the text from the east face.

The page remained in substantially the same form until 2018 when you edited it, although it appears that at some point somebody deleted the photos. I see that in 2018 you removed my transcription of the text on the south face. I am guessing that this is because by that time, the photos had been removed, so there appeared to be no source for the text. I see that there is someone's photograph of the east face on Commons and that someone else's photo of the south face (taken in 2015 and under a CC-BY-NC 2.0 licence) exists on Flickr. If downloaded at the highest resolution, the text of the south face is legible (aside from a rather small amount obscured by the railings near the bottom of the photo), so if a copy can be uploaded to Commons (as the licence would appear to permit) then this would resolve the problem of lack of sourcing.

I was going to try to restore the text from the south face based on the page history, but I see that it is now set up to include text from Wikidata, and I have no clue how to do this. I don't want just to restore the page in its previous form if we are supposed to use Wikidata instead these days.

Please can you add the text from the south face. You will that I had formatted some of the it as centred text - this is where it appeared as such on the column itself as you will clearly see in the photo, so it would be good for this formatting to be preserved along with the text.

Thank you. Scil100(2) (talk) 09:07, 7 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

Huh, interesting. It was a long time ago that I worked on that, and it looks like I replaced it with a transcription from a photo that got deleted, as you surmise.
I see that there are some photos on Commons that could be used as a source, though I am not sure which face is which:
I'll see what I can do with this :)
Beleg Âlt BT (talk) 16:34, 7 March 2024 (UTC) —Beleg Âlt BT (talk) 16:34, 7 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

Floruit edit

Thank you for fixing the author pages with hardcoded fl. dates I'd made! I'd been a bit hesitant to create Wikidata pages for authors when there wasn't much information about them, but will do so in future, and avoid hardcoded dates. I did have a couple of questions though.

I noticed that you'd added the 1800s as a decade for the floruit date of some authors (I guess to make them appear as fl. 1800s in the header?) but I couldn't work out how to change this to 19th century. As floruit (P1317) says it supports multiple dates, I've added them all to authors whose work spans more than one decade. Not sure if this is the best approach, as the header then adds them all as "fl. 18xx/fl. 18xx/fl.18xx", etc. (e.g. Author:Heinrich Apel); maybe the header template could be changed to remove all subsequent fl.s? edit: I've now switched the floruit values to each decade they published works (e.g. "fl. 1820s/fl. 1830s"); still not sure this is the best approach; perhaps Header could use the work period (start) (P2031) & work period (end) (P2032) values that you've added? What do you think? --YodinT 15:16, 8 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

The approach I prefer is to use the smallest single valid unit possible in floruit (P1317) (whether that be a year, decade, or century), and then put the actual dates in work period (start) (P2031) and work period (end) (P2032). As for using the latter values in {{author}}, I have made that suggestion but it hasn't been taken up. —Beleg Tâl (talk) 23:07, 8 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

Author:Sota Omoigui edit

Do you recall why you included a PD-1923 license ? That doesn't seem right to me. -- Beardo (talk) 13:18, 13 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

No I don't, but I expect it's because it's the only license that is always valid regardless of where or when the author lived, so if you don't know anything about an author it's really the only license that you can use. (shrug) —Beleg Âlt BT (talk) 13:43, 13 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
In this case, the author page should have been deleted after the discussion at WS:CV, so I'll flag it for deletion —Beleg Âlt BT (talk) 13:45, 13 March 2024 (UTC) —Beleg Âlt BT (talk) 13:45, 13 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

Thank you for adding WikiData links edit

WikiData is an almost complete mystery for me, so thank you for connecting my authors to WikiData pages - I imagine it's done semi-automatically, but it's still worth thanks!

Qq1122qq (talk) 18:58, 28 March 2024 (UTC)Reply