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Requesting 5 articles which were deleted

I notice that you are listed on: Category:Wikipedia administrators who will provide copies of deleted articles.

I am requesting 5 deleted articles, pretty, pretty please :):

From: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2008 November 15

If I could please also get the creator's name and date it was created?

You can add all 5 pages to a userspace (prefered), lets say User:Ikip/Paul Pantone, or you are welcome to email me the information.

I really appreciate it. You are probably wondering why I ask. Well, I have spent my weekend on a graph found here: User:Ikip/AfD on average day. I am interested in what type of user gets their page deleted, etc....November 15 is just a day pulled out of a hat by another user.

Thanks :) Ikip (talk) 17:05, 12 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there.

You should be able to find all the pages I created here. The info you asked for is in the edit cummary of my page creation (including the number of edits to the page before deletion) and any other information i thought might be relavent. The content of your user pages is exactly as the article was before it got deleted and if you would like more info on the other eidt to the page or anything such as the articles content when first created feel free to ask.

Also sorry for the warnings that appear at the top of the pages :P (caused as i copied the page exactly).

I Hope you find somehting interesting and feel free to ask me for more. -·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 19:07, 12 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

RE: feel free to ask me for more.

Careful what you volunteer to do Addshore :) I have been looking for 50 articles that were deleted, and have about 30 more to go: User_talk:Ikip/AfD_on_average_day#Articles_which_were_deleted I ask other admins for this material... Ikip (talk) 19:23, 12 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

BTW, how did you add the list of 5 edits like that? [1] This is very helpful to know. Ikip (talk) 19:24, 12 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well what you do is (if its your contribs) firstly select any of the default counts, then you click "Next page" untill you can see the nuber of edits you want. When you have the first of the edits that you want to list like thatyou reduce the number listed (in the URL) to the number of edits above the edit you want. Then you click for the next page. Then you change the count to the number of edits below the one you wanted you also want. Then loads the URL and it should work :P. It would be allot easier to show you but I hope you understand. If not just say and ill explain it more clearly with bullet points and stuff :P -·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 19:39, 12 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Adshore, sorry I was not clearer, but I must know who created the article, and the date it was created, what other admins have done, like User:Amire80 today, is I think they undelete the article and move it to my page. If you are fatigued about this, I can ask someone else, I apprecaite your efforts thus far, thank you for the detailed explanation. Ikip (talk) 19:41, 12 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The user name and date created is in the edit summary. I thought bout moving the page but that would also move the history away from the article. If someone wanted to the genuinly undelete the article at a latter time the edits would not appear there. Is it just the username and date/time in the edit summary you need? ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 19:46, 12 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Your wonderful! thats all I need! thank you! you truly deserve that barnstar!Ikip (talk) 20:33, 12 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No problem and thanks :P ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 20:35, 12 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar

		The Helping Hand Barnstar
		The Helping Hand Barnstar is to be awarded to users who frequently help new users. This barnstar is awarded to Addshore, for his assistance in helping understand AfDs, which will greatly assist future new users. Thank you so much for your eagerness to help. Ikip (talk) 19:23, 12 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

:) thanks. ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 19:33, 12 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This is awesome

Just like to say my Lonely Pages bot is now back up and running (thanks to your toolserver generated pages). If you take a look at the contribs of User:Addbot you should see how well it is working already :). Thanks and if you want to reply to this please do so on my talk page. ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 12:18, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, it's great to see Addbot churning away on the untagged orphan list. Thanks so much for setting this up - this is a huge step forward for the project. --JaGa^talk 13:14, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yee :) And also where is the text version of your "Adopted orphans" page and the update link for it? :P, I will try to add something for that also. ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 13:16, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

:) Thanks, but JL-Bot beat you to that one. The page is Adopted orphans. --JaGa^talk 13:24, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ahh ok and thanks [= ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 13:41, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

BTW did you notice Addbot stopped putting "Adding Orphan Tag" in its comments after a while? --JaGa^talk 14:05, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yep I noticed this about 2 seconds ago :P. I put an unset on the wrong line. Fixed now. Thanks. ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 14:06, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Just wondering, Could you make a similar page for my bot for un-categorized pages? (without tags)? Then my bot can work on them also :). ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 16:22, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds doable. You just want a list of pages that aren't categorized? Would you want it "untagged orphans" style, i.e., hit a refresh to make sure they're still uncategorized, then download a list of 5000? Gimme a wish list, and I'll see if I can put it together for you. --JaGa^talk 18:09, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yep just like the orphans. So have it as untagged un-categorized pages with a refresh page and in the same format =]. Think you can make it work? :) ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 18:14, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I believe so. I'm surprised it hasn't already been done. It'll take some time, but I'll put something together. Thanks for the suggestion. --JaGa^talk 19:53, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well the special page is still up and running, but I have now seen how much more effective doing it this way can be compared with the slow 1000 at a time special page [= ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 20:21, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Bot question

Just wondering how many (and what kind of) incoming links an article should receive in order to no longer qualify as an orphan by your bot's criteria? Thanks.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 20:44, February 13, 2009 (UTC)

Basically, an article must have three links from mainspace articles, excluding lists ("List of ...", "1999 in music", "February 13", etc.) Here's the criteria per WikiProject:Orphanage. --JaGa^talk 21:20, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 21:24, February 13, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks JaGa [= ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 21:50, 13 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Botanical taxa orphan tagging -- completely pointless

Please don't continue tagging botanical taxa as orphans. It serves no purpose, particularly when the articles are stubs, and they're linked appropriately within their taxoboxes. Their is no purpose in linking every taxon within Wikipedia, even the most obscure, and the idea for the botanical articles is to include every taxon, as named species are notable. Tagging each and every taxon as an orphan, when it is already appropriately linked to its evolutionary position would simply result in pointless lists or just naming taxa that appear in certain areas. This adds no value, particularly to stubs So, please stop your bot creating work that need undone by human editors and thereby consuming the time of human editors that could be used researched and referencing and even linking articles. Thank you. --KP Botany (talk) 09:44, 14 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there. My bot is simply out there to tag anything that is classed as an orphan as that. If you would like to discuss why these articles should not be tagged then please post a message here. Thanks for the message. -·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 22:44, 14 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Bradford College (England)

You marked Bradford College (England) as orphaned. I have reverted it because this page was recently moved from Bradford College and I am now updating links to point to the new article (where appropriate). -- NRTurner (talk) 11:35, 14 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there. I understand why you have untagged the article and I know you understand why it was taggged, though if the links are not added at the next scan the bot will re-tag the article. Thhanks for the message. ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 22:42, 14 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Tagging subpages

Addbot tagged Drake Circus/Temp as an orphan. Since enwp doesn't use subpages in article space, Addbot shouldn't encourage linking to them. OK so the page shouldn't be there either, but it won't be for long. Nice work on the bot, btw. —SMALL JIM 12:00, 14 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there. I will make a change to the bot to make it stop tagging subpages, and thanks for reporting this :) And thanks again! ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 22:39, 14 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Done, The bot will now skip sub pages. ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 22:55, 14 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the speedy fix. Good luck with getting huggle fixed, btw! —SMALL JIM 19:51, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Orphan questions

Hey Addshore, it's great to see Addbot chugging along smoothly, without problems. I noticed a few orphan-specific questions above, and was thinking - if you put a ref to WikiProject Orphanage in your edit summary, it might deflect some of the your-bot-is-working-fine-but-I-have-a-question-about-orphans questions to the right place. --JaGa^talk 15:58, 14 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I will do this :). I will add a link for bugs and a link for questions. Thanks for the suggestion! ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 22:40, 14 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Done, If any questions make there way to the orphanage talk page that I can answer then please drop me a message :) ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 22:55, 14 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Great! Will do, thanks. --JaGa^talk 23:57, 14 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Adding the tag to REDIRECT pages

Hi there,

Your bot recently added a tag to a redirect page, specifically "Euro Area" (I did not link it so it is still orphan, this page constain a redirect to Eurozone). I think that it does not make sense, once you add the tag, the redirect page will not longer "redirects". Do you agree with me or did I miss something?

Thanks, Miguel.mateo (talk) 03:01, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I had the same problem on Franconia–Springfield (Washington Metro, VRE, Amtrak). In a perfect world, after all, redirects should be orphaned. SchuminWeb (Talk) 04:52, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It's a result of this bug in Wikipedia that causes redirects that are created from a pagemove not to be marked as redirects in the database. So the bot doesn't know it's a redirect; if it did know, it wouldn't tag it. --JaGa^talk 06:03, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I do not know how simple or difficult would be to see that if the article is just a few bytes long then is most likely a redirect or a disambiguation. Checking for the first line of the article for "#REDIRECT" will do the trick too. To me sounds quite simple, but I am not a bot programmer ... Miguel.mateo (talk) 07:45, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going through the orphan tables now in AWB to root out the broken redirects. This will still happen from time to time, but it should happen a lot less after I'm finished. --JaGa^talk 09:13, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I will try to smash some code into the already expanding bot to make it avoid redirects if it ever does come across any. ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 09:25, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Done The bot should now avoid all pages that include "#REDIRECT" in their main content. Thanks for the report. ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 09:31, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much for the fast response. Miguel.mateo (talk) 09:51, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No problema nd again thanks for the report (*yawns, just woke up*) :P. If you ever find anything you think my bot could do or change in something it is already doing i really do appreciate input =] ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 09:53, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Bot

New topic: how can I get started in creating bots for Wikipedia? I do have a programmer background ... thanks, Miguel.mateo (talk) 09:57, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well, Take a look at Wikipedia:Creating_a_bot. Really all you need is something for the bot to do and the means of doing it. Then request for the bot to be approved and your away :) ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 10:05, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your reply, will follow you advice. Miguel.mateo (talk) 12:26, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

New stubs

Tagging new stubs as orphans is absurd, especially as stubs may be created in response to article requests (by well-established process) rather than immediately to support other existing articles. At the least, move the tagging in the case of new stubs to their discussion pages. —SlamDiego_←T 05:40, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there. The bot isn't that clever and does not know how long or how short an article is. Its jobs is to simply tag an article with an orphan tag if and when it finds it. The fact is a short stub that was created even 1 day ago is still an orphan, Therefor it would be tagged. Just wondering, what article did you disagree with this on? ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 09:36, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Tagging above a hatnote

Hello. Addbot tagged Alfred Collins as an orphan above a dablink, when other tags were already present below the hatnote. See here. According to WP:Lead_section#Elements_of_the_lead dablinks should generally come first for accessibility reasons. In any case, some maintenance boxes above and some below the hatnote doesn't look right. Can the bot be corrected for that? (I've corrected this particular article.) Station1 (talk) 07:11, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there. I will get to work on making sure the bot pastes below dablinks now! Thanks for the report! ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 09:06, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Done The bot should now tag above these tags from its next run (a few hours). Thanks again for the report! ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 09:21, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Redirects

Are redirects meant to be flagged as orphans? [2] — Blue-Haired Lawyer 14:16, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there. No they shouldn't be tagged as orphans. This bug has already been reported above and is now fixed. Thanks for the report and if you do see any redirects tagged then please remove the tags. ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 14:18, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Huggle

Hello Adshore, I'm sorry to disturb you but I wonder if you can review this bug. Another question: Since Friday I can't use Huggle on any project. Is something wrong?. Many thanks for your help and time. Dferg talk 16:57, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there. I have replied on the feedback page but I see no reason for your accoutn to not be logging in. As far as I am aware nothing has changed. I have checked the global config and all is in order :S ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 17:03, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hello again, thanks for your reply. Here is my local .css file and the project configuration. It seems OK but for a strange reason I can't log in. Thanks in advance and sorry. --Dferg ^{w:en: w:es:} 17:08, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well your local config looks fine as it includes enable:true and version:0.8.1 . The project also look like it should allow you (if you have 500 edits and are auto confirmed). When you try to log in do you get any errors or messages? Also try again i tweaked the project config a bit. ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 17:11, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, sorry, I still can't. If it is allowed, can I take a screenshot to the log in form to show you what it appears? - an image is always better :D. Many thanks. --Dferg ^{w:en: - w:es:} 17:16, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes please do :). Send me an email through email user on this wiki and i will reply so you can attach it :) ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 17:23, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Done --Dferg ^{w:en: - w:es:} 17:28, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Replied.. ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 17:32, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hmmm... Now I cant login either... O_o ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 17:35, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

O_o I'm not a virus! o_O --Dferg ^{w:en: - w:es:} 17:39, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have no idea what has happened :P Ill try to get hold or gurch or try to find something out. I don't think it is a problem with huggle.. ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 17:42, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

So, it's a MediaWiki issue, right?. I hope that this bug would be soon fixed, Huggle is the best AntiVandalism feature I know. Thanks again. --Dferg ^{w:en: - w:es:} 18:26, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well not in media wiki but a squid server got installed and we both seem to be using it. It doesnt like something that huggle does :P Hopefully can be fixed easily :) ·Add§hore· ^{Talk To Me!} 18:41, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Orca Basin

Hi Addshore, Addbot correctly tagged Orca Basin as an orphan. I added links to the article on three other pages and then removed the tag, but now Addbot has put the tag back; am I missing something? Mikenorton (talk) 23:51, 15 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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 ::: So, it's a MediaWiki issue, right?. I hope that this bug would be soon fixed, Huggle is the best AntiVandalism feature I know. Thanks again. --<small>[[m:User:Dferg|Dferg]] <sup>[[User talk:Dferg|w:en:]] - [[w:es:Usuario Discusión:Dferg|w:es:]]</sup></small> 18:26, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
 ::::Well not in media wiki but a squid server got installed and we both seem to be using it. It doesnt like something that huggle does :P Hopefully can be fixed easily :) '''[[User:Addshore|<span style="background-color:black;color:white;">·Add§hore·</span>]]''' <sup>[[User_talk:Addshore|<span style="background-color:black;color:white;">T<small>alk</small> T<small>o</small> M<small>e</small>!</span>]]</sup></span> 18:41, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
+== Orca Basin ==
+Hi Addshore, Addbot correctly tagged [[Orca Basin]] as an orphan. I added links to the article on three other pages and then removed the tag, but now Addbot has put the tag back; am I missing something? [[User:Mikenorton|Mikenorton]] ([[User talk:Mikenorton|talk]]) 23:51, 15 February 2009 (UTC)