User talk:Classicwiki

I tend to archive conversations that seem to have concluded, hope you don't mind.

Follow-up to 181.2.127.197

Looks like I spoke to soon. The head scratcher I mentioned earlier has morphed into another oddity in this latest attempt. No rhyme or reason on what they are trying to accomplish here, and clearly they are ignoring their talk page at this point. Despite the number of good edits, it may be time for an intervention. --GoneIn60 (talk) 13:46, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

@GoneIn60 Reported to AIV. User was given a 31 hour block, so time will tell if they start editing again (under that IP or another one or another username). Thanks for following up. Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 20:36, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

Re

What unconstructive edits? I reverted a bit of vandalism done 4 months ago by an ip editor, look at the page history if you don’t believe me 2600:1014:B1E7:90F6:0:C:D795:C701 (talk) 21:58, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi 2600:1014:B1E7:90F6:0:C:D795:C701. I have reverted myself. At first glance it appeared to be reintroducing vandalism based on the three consecutive edits. I appreciated your efforts to undue vandalism and encourage you to create an account. Thanks, Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 22:07, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

Thanks I appreciate it 2600:1014:B1E7:90F6:0:C:D795:C701 (talk) 22:13, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi there

You made a mistake on retail apocalypse. Southwest VA and Northeast TN are ALWAYS the first to close the retail stores. I know it, I live in Kingsport, TN. It sucks, I basically have NOTHING in my area. When a store goes bankrupt. Guess what? I'm first in line! If everybody were aware about the loophole called "adult adoption":

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adult_adoption

Then, I would be in a better city with someone else who can actually afford it and still have physical stores. As you are not aware, adult adoption can give you new parents. Unfortunately, I am 26 and I missed my chance.

Why is it my area always comes first? 216.145.66.227 (talk) 21:58, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

Hello, @216.145.66.227. I appreciate you trying to help improve Wikipedia but you need to cite reliable sources when making a claim. Please my message on your talk page for further information. Thanks, Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 22:02, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

My earlier edit

I GAVE TV Tropes as the source to mention Henry's lack of plot relevance. There's a mention on the YMMV section there that the subplot with Henry Bowers doesn't really have real effect on the plot of the story and the characters section has him where you can see he was demoted to extra. 2001:56A:F8E4:BE00:F17D:6130:9337:E79 (talk) 07:36, 6 April 2024 (UTC)

A cookie for you!

Thanks for your work in anti-vandalism :) Staraction (talk | contribs) 05:17, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

@Staraction Thanks! Same goes to you :) Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 22:01, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
	Thank you for your consistent anti-vandalism efforts! '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk|contribs) 05:54, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

@CanonNi Thanks :) Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 22:02, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Article decline

Bro can you help me out my article is denided and i dont know what to do Donal69 (talk) 05:19, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Donal69, having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! For more information take a look at your talk page. Good luck with your article! Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 05:23, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

Kyiv/Kiev

Hello @Classicwiki! I noticed that you reverted this edit to the article on Askold and Dir, where the IP user 176.36.226.109 corrected "Kiev" to "Kyiv", and you even left a message on his user talk page labeling the edit as "not contructive". May I ask you why? After all, the Wikipedia article on the city uses Kyiv as the primary spelling, so the edit seems perfectly logical and constructive to me. Sincerely, Nikolaj1905 (talk) 09:50, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Nikolaj1905, if you notice they broke the link to image in the article through their edit. There are a large number of IP editors that use the find and replace function to change articles without realizing the issues they leave behind (not saying that is what exactly happened here). Additionally, WP:UAPLACE might be of interest to you. Best, Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 16:11, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

Deadsy: Bassists contributions

Hey, @Classicwiki! I noticed that you reverted [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Commencement_(album)&diff=1218700108&oldid=1218644796 this edit] to the article on Deadsy's debut record Commencement. You later then told me (I was an IP user when I edited the page) it didn't have a reliable source, so let me break it down for you, to understand it well. Craig Riker (The Beast) joined in 1998, later playing the songs, First the title-track "Commencement", "She Likes Big Words" and "Seagulls", "Le Cirque En Rose", "The Key To Gramercy Park", "Winners", "Brand New Love" (sebadoh cover), Tom Sawyer (a cover by Rush), "Mansion World" (i guess). Ashburn Miller (Creature) didn't record anything from Commencement, because he joined in 2002, which was after the recording of Commencement, circa 96-01. However, on some of the tracks off the earlier version of their record (Deadsy/Self-tilted), which evolved from Commencement, Elijah Blue's friend, Jay Gordon played on the tracks, "Flowing Glower," "Future Years," and "Cruella". And Elijah (yes, Elijah, because he split he bass duties with Jay) played bass on "Lake Waramaug", and "The Elements". Linkornizkittie2010 (talk) 18:52, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi, @Linkornizkittie2010. Do you have a source? Feel free to make the edit again, but try to add it into the text with a source. I have left some standard welcome messages on your talk page with some helpful links to policies and help pages. Thanks for creating and account and contributing! Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 20:12, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

I figure it out. Right now, I'm very tired. Linkornizkittie2010 (talk) 20:42, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

Sock list

Classicwiki, I believe there are many more socks, most already blocked, as can be seen by looking at my 'disclaimer' and reading the history of the articles there, e.g. at Gimli we have user:Happydays924, user:Butthaha12345, user:Bootyfart121 (and some IPs too). Each of the other characters has more: it would be good to know if these are all the same people, and whether those addresses can then be permanently blocked from account creation (it might be IP ranges). I don't know a lot about how SPI works but I suspect it's a very narrow check so it may be best to give them all we can. Chiswick Chap (talk) 18:05, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Chiswick Chap. You should note that your disclaimer might be removed by another editor as it may not meet Wikipedia standards (I'm unclear on this). user:Happydays924 has been added to the current SPI -- but they are already blocked. user:Butthaha12345 and user:Bootyfart121 have been already addressed, you can see the archive here. IP addresses are a little tricky because they mostly can not be blocked forever. However they can be added to an SPI. Feel free to report or let me know if you see any more! Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 18:14, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

Um, I was just giving you an example from one Middle-earth character: I expect there are more at each of the others. All the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 18:17, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

@Chiswick Chap, understood. I've went through a lot of the character articles when I made my report and many others have been reported. I wish we could just have protection for all LOTR-related articles for a time, but unlikely to get support for that. I suspect this is going to be a long-standing issue. Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 18:21, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

Classicwiki All LoTR won't happen. A short list of main characters is possible with a friendly admin. Chiswick Chap (talk) 18:23, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

@Chiswick Chap - I saw that you added names to the active SPI that have already been listed in prior reports. I'd recommend only adding socks that are new. You can see the archive of Thereandbackagain1 here. Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 21:08, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Ah, too subtle.

ie there are other lists about the same guy ... otoh all these are LOTR socks, so the list has a definite function ... Chiswick Chap (talk) 23:47, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Ramon Llull

Hi, Classicwiki. You informed me about removing a minor change which I had just introduced, concerning the names of Ramon Llull's children. You were asking for references to back my changes, in spite of my having included an explanation after my change, which seemed sufficient. Whoever had included the names in Spanish was wrong and disingenuous, and is the one that should have been asked references to support that. As explained in my comment, which you presumably read, Spanish was not spoken in the Balearic Islands until centuries later.

Ramon Llull was the son of a Catalan married couple from Barcelona. They all spoke Catalan and Ramon works were mostly written in Catalan and Latin. You shouldn't need any reference to prove that, really, as it is all widely known. Still, if you want some references, you can check those already provided by someone else at the end of the edited sentence: references 9 and 10, both in Catalan, which are sure to refer to Domènec and Magdalena Llull by their actual, historical, well documented names. 2804:431:CFFC:6304:5550:102F:27FF:881B (talk) 04:13, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

Hello 2804:431:CFFC:6304:5550:102F:27FF:881B, I did check refence "9" prior to reverting your edit. It says, "Domingo i Magdalena" and not Domènec. Wikipedia articles should refer only to facts and interpretations verified in reliable, reputable print or online sources or in other reliable media. Always provide a reliable source for names, quotations, and for any material that is likely to be challenged, or it may be removed. Wikipedia also has a related policy against including original research in articles. Edit summaries do not qualify as a reliable source. Your edits have been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so.

If you are stuck and looking for help, please see the guide for citing sources or come to The Teahouse, where experienced Wikipedians can answer any queries you have and help you with your edits.

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! I encourage you to create an account. Thanks, Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 04:24, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for your answer, Classicwiki, and OK, let's leave it like that. You checked things right and I doubled-checked. It does seem that, for some reason, his son is recorded or referred to as Domingo, in Spanish, while his daughter was recorded as Magdalena, in Catalan (though it is also Magdalena in Spanish). And these are references in Catalan, we are talking about. It seemed very unlikely since the Catalan name is Domènec, and I am still going to question the use of Domingo, but won't insist here. The boy must have been named after saint Dominic, who was a Castilian and therefore named Domingo in Castilian (i.e. Spanish). In spite of the saint being known in Catalan as St Domènec, some factors may explain why Llull's son might have been named or recorded as Domingo, but I won't go into this here, as it would get too long. 2804:431:CFFC:6304:5550:102F:27FF:881B (talk) 07:16, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

Ramon Llull's entry - second issue

You seem to have also undone a correction of mine in the introduction, regarding the language used by Ramon Llull. Someone had put there "Balearic Catalan", but that is wrong (and disingenuous again, which I can explain also, if you can afford the time to talk Spanish politics since the Spanish Civil War of 1936-39).

Balearic Catalan is not even a dialect of Catalan. It refers to the various dialects of Catalan, each spoken on a different island. These dialects didn't exist during Ramon Llull's lifetime. Llull was born in 1232, barely 3 years after Mallorca's conquest and colonization (1229). Minorca would only be colonized in 1287, when Llull was in his mid-fifties. Catalan spoken back then in the Balearic Islands was the same that had been just brought to them from eastern Catalonia.

This is all basic stuff for anyone familiar with the Catalan language and/or medieval history of the western Mediterranean. Could you please leave my correction and maybe ask next time, before undoing something you are not knowlegeable in? As a matter of common sense and to save us all precious time? Thank you! Please be aware that other people like me, editing things that need be corrected, won't even notice that their work was just undone. 2804:431:CFFC:6304:5550:102F:27FF:881B (talk) 05:00, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

Hello, this is a very patronizing message to leave. I will reiterate: Wikipedia also has a related policy against including original research in articles. Edit summaries do not qualify as a reliable source. Always provide a reliable source. Your edits have been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so.

If you are stuck and looking for help, please see the guide for citing sources or come to The Teahouse, where experienced Wikipedians can answer any queries you have and help you with your edits.

I encourage you to create an account. Thanks, Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 05:12, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for your answer, Classicwiki, and sorry if my answer sounded patronizing to you, but it seemed rather factual to me.

I am overworked and never edit Wikipedia or Wiktionary lightly. It's not a hobby for me. I don't have time for that in spite of making a lot of use of these tools, often seeing mistakes and biases.

It is just surprising to me, that someone who isn't knowlegeable in some field, will jump in, out of nowhere, and undo changes just like that, without even asking.

What references to you want me to propose? I suppose you are aware of the difficulty in disproving something that doesn't exist. If you believe in Bigfoot, how am I to prove you it doesn't exist?

You mention a policy that original research cannot be included, but I never did that. You also say that edit summaries do not qualify as reliable sources, but what I am asking is for you to check that information, not just to believe it. If you are acting in some sort of proofreader capacity (?), just check the information provided. Where else can I provide it than the edit summary? What I was telling you can easily be checked in Wikipedia:

1) 1229 as date of conquest and colonization of Majorca by Catalans;

2) 1232-33 as Llull's birthyear, from parents who came from Catalonia (Barcelona to be precise), like everybody else;

3) 1287 as date of conquest and colonization of Minorca by Catalans;

4) Catalan language and dialects;

Etc.

I don't even know where to start, if it becomes a fastidious matter of "proving" to you that it is pure nonsense to speak of "mallorquí", "menorquí" or "eïvissenc" (i.e. the Catalan dialects of Majorca, Minorca, and Eïvissa+Formentera respectively) in the 13th century, or "valencià" in València (conquered and colonized starting in 1238). How would you want me to prove that William Shakespeare didn't exactly speak Cockney? 2804:431:CFFC:6304:5550:102F:27FF:881B (talk) 08:07, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

False Accusation of Sockpuppetry

The IP server that was blocked at the same time as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jahor12345 is not connected. Both were editing simultaneously on different articles during the morning of 3rd April 2024. The IP server began with detailed edits about the Egyptian pound, and then around noon, switched over to British currency in the Middle East. Meanwhile, editor Jahor12345 was editing across a wide range of currency topics, mainly reformatting. The editing styles are completely different. The IP server carried out edits at 1204hrs and 1206hrs, while Jahor12345 carried out an edit in the middle of that two minute period at 1205hrs. They couldn't possibly be the same person. 81.134.217.27 (talk) 13:36, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

@81.134.217.27. I believe you have received the appropriate response from other editors on this topic. Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 21:38, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

A Cookie for You!

Thanks for your anti-vandalism work! Would you mind signing my guesbook? Myrealnamm (💬talk · ✏️contribs) at 21:50, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

@Myrealnamm Signed! Thanks for the cookie :) Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 22:02, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Thank you

Thanks for de-mousing Joe Wilkinson's article. Joyous! Noise! 21:14, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

@Joyous! - Sniffing out the cheese. Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 21:16, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
	Hey! I just wanted to thank you for all your amazing contributions in combating vandalism: awesome work! Cocobb8 (💬 talk • ✏️ contribs) 21:24, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

@Cocobb8 - Thank you! Much appreciated :) Classicwiki (talk) If you reply here, please ping me. 21:26, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Cheers

A dram for you, to forget about capitalized shouting for a moment. LizardJr8 (talk) 07:08, 26 April 2024 (UTC)