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The Elections Committee
Universal Code of Conduct News – Issue 2
Welcome to the second issue of Universal Code of Conduct
News! This newsletter will help Wikimedians stay involved with the development of the new code and will distribute relevant news, research, and upcoming events related to the UCoC.
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- Enforcement Draft Guidelines Review - Initial meetings of the drafting committee have helped to connect and align key topics on enforcement, while highlighting prior research around existing processes and gaps within our movement. (continue reading)
- Targets of Harassment Research - To support the drafting committee, the Wikimedia Foundation has conducted a research project focused on experiences of harassment on Wikimedia projects. (continue reading)
- Functionaries’ Consultation - Since June, Functionaries from across the various wikis have been meeting to discuss what the future will look like in a global context with the UCoC. (continue reading)
- Roundtable Discussions - The UCoC facilitation team once again, hosted another roundtable discussion, this time for Korean-speaking community members and participants of other ESEAP projects to discuss the enforcement of the UCoC. (continue reading)
- Early Adoption of UCoC by Communities - Since its ratification by the Board in February 2021, situations whereby UCoC is being adopted and applied within the Wikimedia community have grown. (continue reading)
- New Timeline for the Interim Trust & Safety Case Review Committee - The CRC was originally expected to conclude by July 1. However, with the UCoC now expected to be in development until December, the timeline for the CRC has also changed. (continue reading)
- Wikimania - The UCoC team is planning to hold a moderated discussion featuring representatives across the movement during Wikimania 2021. It also plans to have a presence at the conference’s Community Village. (continue reading)
- Diff blogs - Check out the most recent publications about the UCoC on Wikimedia Diff blog. (continue reading)
Thanks for reading - we welcome feedback about this newsletter. Xeno (WMF)
) 02:53, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
Pages with template loops It seems like it's
. Let me see if I can fix it. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯
19:25, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
The problem appears to have been vandalism to the underlying
template, which was been reverted and protected. Although
now appears to work correctly, it will take a while for the maintenance category to refresh. ~ Ningauble
) 23:29, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
So it seems we are again having an issue here (that is again causing a problem with the
). Anyone know what the problem is this time? ~ UDScott
) 15:04, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
This time it was vandalism to the underlying
template, which was been reverted (same vandal) and protected. Hint: When inexplicable template failures occur, check recent changes in the Template namespace for changes to related templates. (I still think unregistered/unconfirmed users should not be allowed to edit templates.) ~ Ningauble
) 20:26, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
No central discussion on the Romanian Wikiquote? Hello. On the community space of the Romanian WQ
, I found no equivalent to a central discussion page. Is it simply me not being able to find it, or is there no central discussion page on the Romanian WQ? Veverve
) 00:12, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
Agreed - and I've proposed its deletion. ~ UDScott
) 18:01, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
Call for Candidates for the Movement Charter Drafting Committee Movement Strategy announces the Call for Candidates for the Movement Charter Drafting Committee. The Call opens August 2, 2021 and closes September 1, 2021.
This Committee will have around 15 members. It is expected to represent diversity in the Movement. Diversity includes gender, language, geography, and experience. This comprises participation in projects, affiliates, and the Wikimedia Foundation. You can read the full announcement here
Will you help move Wikimedia forward in this important role? Submit your candidacy starting from next week here. Please contact strategy2030wikimedia.org with questions. Best,Zuz (WMF)
) 13:00, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
Board Elections Postponed Until August 18th
As you know, the Board election was due to open on August 4th. Due to some technical issues with SecurePoll, the election must be delayed by two weeks. This means we plan to launch the election on August 18th, which is the day after Wikimania concludes.
For information on the technical issues, you can see the Phabricator ticket here
You can also read this announcement in other languages here
We are truly sorry for this delay and hope that we will get back on schedule on August 18th. We are in touch with the Elections Committee and the candidates to coordinate next steps. We will update the Board election Talk page and this channel as we know more. Best, Zuz (WMF)
) 09:36, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
A maintenance operation will be performed tomorrow, Tuesday 10th August, at 05:00 UTC.
It will impact 17 wikis, and is supposed to last a few minutes. During this time, saving edits will not be possible. For more details about the operation, please check on Phabricator
A banner will be displayed 30 minutes before the operation.
Please help making your community aware of this. Thank you! SGrabarczuk (WMF)
02:02, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
Edit Dispute at Mahabharata You provided no edit summaries explaining your edits. You have not started a conversation on the discussion page to work with the reverting editors to resolve their concerns. Coming to Village Pump is premature. See this Wikipedia article
for a step-by-step guide to resolving edit disputes. Butwhatdoiknow
) 15:38, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
Thank you, Butwhatdoiknow
. Also I did provide explanation on my second revision. I will make a post on the discussion page. Note different IP but I am the original poster in this thread 22.214.171.124
17:12, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
Request for comment notification Universal Code of Conduct - Enforcement draft guidelines review
These guidelines are not final but you can help move the progress forward. The committee will revise the guidelines based upon community input.
There are planned live discussions about the UCoC enforcement draft guidelines:
- 18 September @ 03:00 UTC & 15:00 UTC Summaries of discussions will be posted every two weeks here
Please let me know if you have any questions. Best, Zuz (WMF)
) 19:23, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
The Wikimedia movement has the opportunity to vote for the selection of community-and-affiliate trustees. By voting, you will help to identify those people who have the qualities to best serve the needs of the movement for the next several years. The Board is expected to select the four most voted candidates to serve as trustees. Voting closes 31 August 2021.
Just I would like to say you all "hello", I'm back. I was remote from all Wikimedia related activities almost a decade due to health reasons, and need to catch up things at any range. Now I just want to say I'm very happy to see Recentchanges fairly busy with both names both familiar and new to me. Happy quoting and see you later. --Aphaia
) 14:02, 19 August 2021 (UTC) fully vaccinated
Welcome back! And I am happy to hear that you are doing better. It's nice to see a familiar name from when I first joined this community. Cheers! ~ UDScott
Template:Citation - disrupted? Hi, I was looking for citation templates to use within Wikiquote, and I came across this: Template:Citation
. This page is confusing -- the content does not seem to match the title. Am I confused or is there something actually wrong with it? Could someone who is more experienced in Wikiquote take a look? Thank you. Al83tito
) 00:37, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
Hi, thank you for your bringing this to our attention. Oh. My. It's a mess indeed. It must not be represented as such. Apparently something or more go wrong. Saddened, I can't figure it out. The lemma looks italicized mistakenly, a certain article is shown but oddly its article name isn't detected through search. Weird. Can anyone have a clue? Thanks. --Aphaia
) 03:30, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
It was vandalism to the underlying
template, now reverted and protected. This has become a familiar recurring pattern of vandalism. (Hint: When inexplicable template failures occur, check recent changes in the Template namespace for changes to related templates.) And, welcome back. ~ Ningauble
) 16:52, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
Thank you both for your quick action! Al83tito
) 22:41, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
Hello, I'd like to ask you guys opinions how to deal with those articles in Japanese poets
created by Risto hot sir
who is now globally banned as cross wiki abuser. After giving a look to one third of those articles, I think I've got clues enough share with other editors for further considerations. Hope the below works food of thought of you.
At this moment my overview is "some should survive and be expanded, if they are no copyright infringement. The other might not be hoaxed but too obscure for us to expand and thus it is dubious if we would like them to keep as quotable quotes". Let me explain my concerns further:
Sorry for first, my response has come very late, which was raised in 2018 on my talk, as copied as below
Risto hot sir
has requested that I ask the community about what should be done regarding the numerous articles listed under Category:Japanese poets
. You will know what I mean after you read a few and start to see the trend. They are all a possible copyright violation, they are all of non-notable people who don't even have a Wikipedia article, they are all from one source and they all clog up this category. You can read more about this here
, and here
. Just A Regular New Yorker
) 01:16, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
Scanning about ten of them, I tend to agree with JARNY but there are some differences between us, let us follow his standpoints,
- "They are all a possible copyright violation": they could be so, specially "quotes about THE AUTHOR" smell not nicely.
- "they are all of non-notable people who don't even have a Wikipedia article": we say happily no. Not only some of them are notable, but also some of them have their own Wikipedia articles, not only on Japanese Wikipedia, but also on English Wikipedia (e.g. Fukuda Chiyo-ni, she is actually a notable female poet, whose article had been on ENWP before the ENWQ article was created).
- "they are all from one source": It is a concern indeed, specially in the circumstance we don't know how much amount of the original the cited quotes are taken. I am personally optimistic, but having no copy of the cited book, we cannot determine they are permissible as fair use.
- "and they all clog up this category.": again a contend based concern, not legal one. We could relax here ... and here I strongly concur with JARNY. Even at this moment, with ten reviewed articles, I found only one genuine poets (whose main notability stands on their poetry), Fukuda Chiyo-ni among their creations. Others are, even if they are somehow notable, known as of their different occupations, and might recite poems occasionally. We have no clues if those lines are just a part of their enormous poetical works or one and all known their poetry in their entire lives. Since death poems were a century-long tradition in Japan, reciting a notable death poem doesn't mean they were known as poets. For example, imagine a a WW2 field general left a death poem and these verse has been notable, but it isn't same he regularly made poetry, nor he has been considered as a poet and military personnel, not mere a serviceman.
I tend to like keep some "notable" authors' articles though, still copyvio possibilities are concerns. Also on some minor authors. Some of those Japanese haven't been found in reliable sources like Japan National Diet Library Database, "Web authorities", which means they might have left no writings in Japanese. They seems not to be hoaxes, as cited quotes, but I think we should take this possibility into account: creating a hoax mixed with real genuine material is a well known modus operandi, and I have known some young and immature editors had done so even from their good will across Wikimedia project.
Risto hot sir's creation is not limited to Japanese poets, and I hope we will be able to build a paradigm, or if the community has known such already, please let me share :) Cheers, --Aphaia
) 08:40, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
The 2022 Community Wishlist Survey will happen in January
We hope all of you are as well and safe as possible during these trying times! We wanted to share some news about a change to the Community Wishlist Survey 2022. We would like to hear your opinions as well.
Proposing and wish-fulfillment will happen during the same year
In the past, the Community Tech
team has run the Community Wishlist Survey for the following year in November of the prior year. For example, we ran the Wishlist for 2021
in November 2020. That worked well a few years ago. At that time, we used to start working on the Wishlist soon after the results of the voting were published.
However, in 2021, there was a delay between the voting and the time when we could start working on the new wishes. Until July 2021, we were working on wishes from the Wishlist for 2020
We hope having the Wishlist 2022 in January 2022 will be more intuitive. This will also give us time to fulfill more wishes from the 2021 Wishlist.
Encouraging wider participation from historically excluded communities
We are thinking how to make the Wishlist easier to participate in. We want to support more translations, and encourage under-resourced communities to be more active. We would like to have some time to make these changes.
A new space to talk to us about priorities and wishes not granted yet
We will have gone 365 days without a Wishlist. We encourage you to approach us. We hope to hear from you in the talk page
, but we also hope to see you at our bi-monthly Talk to Us meetings! These will be hosted at two different times friendly to time zones around the globe.
We will begin our first meeting September 15th at 23:00 UTC. More details about the agenda and format coming soon!
Brainstorm and draft proposals before the proposal phase
If you have early ideas for wishes, you can use the new Community Wishlist Survey sandbox
. This way, you will not forget about these before January 2022. You will be able to come back and refine your ideas. Remember, edits in the sandbox don't count as wishes!
- What should we do to improve the Wishlist pages?
- How would you like to use our new sandbox?
- What, if any, risks do you foresee in our decision to change the date of the Wishlist 2022?
- What will help more people participate in the Wishlist 2022?
Answer on the talk page
(in any language you prefer) or at our Talk to Us meetings.
2021 Wikimedia Board of Trustees Election Result Thank you to everyone who participated in the 2021 Board election. The Elections Committee has reviewed the votes of the 2021 Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees election, organized to select four new trustees. A record 6,873 people from across 214 projects cast their valid votes. The following four candidates received the most support:
While these candidates have been ranked through the community vote, they are not yet appointed to the Board of Trustees. They still need to pass a successful background check and meet the qualifications outlined in the Bylaws. The Board has set a tentative date to appoint new trustees at the end of this month.
Read the full announcement here
. Best, Zuz (WMF)
) 10:29, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
Call for Candidates for the Movement Charter Drafting Committee ending 14 September 2021
The Committee is expected to represent diversity in the Movement
. Diversity includes gender, language, geography, and experience. This comprises participation in projects, affiliates, and the Wikimedia Foundation.
English fluency is not required to become a member. If needed, translation and interpretation support is provided. Members will receive an allowance to offset participation costs. It is US$100 every two months.
We are looking for people who have some of the following skills
- Know how to write collaboratively. (demonstrated experience is a plus)
- Are ready to find compromises.
- Focus on inclusion and diversity.
- Have knowledge of community consultations.
- Have intercultural communication experience.
- Have governance or organization experience in non-profits or communities.
- Have experience negotiating with different parties.
The Committee is expected to start with 15 people. If there are 20 or more candidates, a mixed election and selection process will happen. If there are 19 or fewer candidates, then the process of selection without election takes place.
Will you help move Wikimedia forward in this important role? Submit your candidacy here
. Please contact strategy2030
wikimedia.org with questions.
This message may have been sent previously - please note that the deadline for candidate submissions was extended and candidacies are still being accepted until 14 September 2021. Xeno (WMF)
17:16, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
The Wikimedia Foundation
tests the switch between its first and secondary data centers. This will make sure that Wikipedia and the other Wikimedia wikis can stay online even after a disaster. To make sure everything is working, the Wikimedia Technology department needs to do a planned test. This test will show if they can reliably switch from one data centre to the other. It requires many teams to prepare for the test and to be available to fix any unexpected problems.
They will switch all traffic back to the primary data center on Tuesday, 14 September 2021.
Unfortunately, because of some limitations in MediaWiki
, all editing must stop while the switch is made. We apologize for this disruption, and we are working to minimize it in the future.
You will be able to read, but not edit, all wikis for a short period of time.
- You will not be able to edit for up to an hour on Tuesday, 14 September 2021. The test will start at 14:00 UTC (07:00 PDT, 10:00 EDT, 15:00 WEST/BST, 16:00 CEST, 19:30 IST, 23:00 JST, and in New Zealand at 02:00 NZST on Wednesday, 15 September).
- If you try to edit or save during these times, you will see an error message. We hope that no edits will be lost during these minutes, but we can't guarantee it. If you see the error message, then please wait until everything is back to normal. Then you should be able to save your edit. But, we recommend that you make a copy of your changes first, just in case.
- Background jobs will be slower and some may be dropped. Red links might not be updated as quickly as normal. If you create an article that is already linked somewhere else, the link will stay red longer than usual. Some long-running scripts will have to be stopped.
- We expect the code deployments to happen as any other week. However, some case-by-case code freezes could punctually happen if the operation require them afterwards.
This project may be postponed if necessary. You can read the schedule at wikitech.wikimedia.org
. Any changes will be announced in the schedule. There will be more notifications about this. A banner will be displayed on all wikis 30 minutes before this operation happens. Please share this information with your community.
Talk to the Community Tech
The meeting will not be recorded or streamed. Notes without attribution will be taken and published on Meta-Wiki. The presentation (first three points in the agenda) will be given in English.
Announcement of Major Resource for Quotation-Checking I hope I will be forgiven a "shameless plug" that should be significantly helpful to Wikiquote participants. My book, The New Yale Book of Quotations, has just been published by Yale University Press. This is, at the least, a quotation resource on a par with the Oxford Dictionary of Quotations and Bartlett's Familiar Quotations, and it arguably surpasses those books in accuracy and thoroughness. Fred Shapiro
—The preceding unsigned
comment was added by 126.96.36.199
) 20:35, 12 September 2021
Extensive dialogue from television series I'm not sure if Jonas (TV series)
fits the requirements for Wikiquote, it seems to me unlikely that this amount of dialogue is "quotable" in the usual sense, though doubtless there exist fans who can recite the entire series by heart. I would be grateful if a regular could take a look. Rich Farmbrough
) 13:04, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
Yes, you are right - there should only be 2 quotes per episode for a TV show of this length. ~ UDScott
) 15:44, 13 September 2021 (UTC)
Movement Charter Drafting Committee - Community Elections to take place October 11 - 24 This is a short message with an update from the Movement Charter process. The call for candidates for the Drafting Committee closed September 14, and we got a diverse range of candidates. The committee will consist of 15 members, and those will be (s)elected via three different ways.
- Election process for project communities to elect 7 members of the committee.
- Selection process for affiliates to select 6 members of the committee.
- Wikimedia Foundation process to appoint 2 members of the committee.
The community elections will take place between October 11 and October 24. The other process will take place in parallel, so that all processes will be concluded by November 1.
We are very happy about the wide range of diverse Wikimedians that are running for the election and selection processes for the drafting committee of the Movement Charter! As the number of candidates is quite large and thus informing yourself about them might be a bit more complicated, we want to try something different this time: We want to organize a so-called “Voting Advice Application (or “Election Compass
) with statements related to the Movement Charter. All candidates can propose their statements here
For the full context of the Movement Charter, its role, as well the process for its creation, please have a look at Meta. You can also contact us at any time on Telegram or via email (email@example.com). Best, Zuz (WMF)
) 10:36, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
was proposed for deletion, but Prod was removed in this edit
. The page looks like self-promotion. --MKFI
) 06:06, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
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