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voetbalster uit wodka

Hi Edoderoo, please have a look at [1] (currently 40 items), e.g. Q97722446#P27 created by your bot. Cheers --- Jura 21:58, 5 September 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. There must be a mismatch in the translation-table of my soccerdonna-script. I'll fix the script, and the damage too. Edoderoo (talk) 08:35, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

 Done  – The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:|?]] ([[User talk:|talk]] • contribs).

Thanks. BTW, nl descriptions need fixing too. --- Jura 09:47, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

It's still there, e.g. Q97722446. Query: https://query.wikidata.org/#SELECT%20%2a%20%7B%20%3Fitem%20schema%3Adescription%20%22voetbalster%20uit%20wodka%22%40nl%20%7D --- Jura 06:56, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

Duplicates created by bot

I've noticed that this bot has created lots of duplicate items for North Korean women's footballers e.g. Jang Yong-ok (Q97682821, duplicate of Q27517087). Looks like the problem may be caused by descriptions of footballer and association footballer. I'm fixing the ones for NK footballers, but just thought you should be aware, in case it's happening for other footballers too. Joseph2302 (talk) 14:06, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

This story has a few sides. Due to database lag the script created true duplicates. Those have been merged by me later. But some (for some countries many) players could not be found easily by their name, and the script created them, as duplicate, or truely as a new player. If there is a way to query those duplicates relatively easily, they can be merged with QuickStatements. I see that the main reason for not finding duplicates were caused by the way Asian names are built. When searching for Un-Ok Kim, the script will not recognise Kim Un-ok as the same player. Edoderoo (talk) 15:05, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

A SparQL query like https://w.wiki/drr will find them back. This is for China (North Korea was already cleared by you). I'll fix the ones I can find here. Edoderoo (talk) 17:22, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

Delay before adding labels and descriptions in Dutch by bot

Hi Edoderoo,

Given the problem at https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Q101094533&action=history and series of similar items, I wonder if it wouldn't be preferable if the bot delay its edits by a couple of days. It could still do that same edits, but just maybe a 4 or 5 days later.

Potentially this could also lead to more complete descriptions, as people might not add all information in 30 minutes (or 60 seconds to 60 minutes). --- Jura 06:05, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

This is just an exception. About complete descriptions, my script is not as smart as a human, it can create a simple description, or nothing at all. So waiting longer will never make better descriptions. Sometimes I manage a second run a few months later, because then more properties might be added, so a description can be made (instead of no description at all). Edoderoo (talk) 10:04, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

What fix do you suggest for the issue?

Will you implement the delay? Or do regular follow up bot runs? Or identify and fix them manually yourself? --- Jura 10:17, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

Exceptions always require manual fixes. We're talking about one-in-a-million. Delaying my bot for a year might fix *this* problem, but will not be the best solution. Edoderoo (talk) 11:05, 8 November 2020 (UTC)

I think it is a good idea to wait a few hours or days. When adding people with OpenRefine I do some cleaning afterwards, for example to change an organization to a photo studio or other more specified values. Same for professions etc. So, a known delay would be great. The script to create descriptions is very helpful. --Hannolans (talk) 23:29, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

I like the script as well. The years in people's descriptions are useful even for non-Dutch languages.

BTW, the whole batch by the user who created the one above has to be repaired. --- Jura 12:43, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

Joseph Bain (Q56650132)

Hi, wondering if this is related to Bain, Joseph (1826-1911) --> Commons:File:Calendar of documents relating to Scotland preserved in Her Majesty's Public Record Office, London (IA calendarofdocu05grea).pdf. Thank you foryour time. Lotje (talk) 07:04, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

I think you can better ask this to Richard Neville. He changed the en label from J. Bain to Joseph Bain. Mbch331 (talk) 07:08, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Montequinto

Hi. I saw a few of this editions. This is a vandalism, please, don't put it. Thanks. --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 12:51, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

The problem was here and i reverted 8 editions, maybe there are more. Thanks. --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 12:59, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Actually it's not. On the date the edit was done by this bot, that was actually the Dutch label of the town Q98502151 is in. Mbch331 (talk) 13:00, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

Labels copied to nl - problem with parenthesis

Hi! I've recently seen that the fact that the bot, in copying labels to nl, cuts all text from "(" onward may sometimes be counterproductive: as is clearly evident here, in cases when parenthesis are followed by text outside them the bot should copy the entire label without cuts, in order to avoid cutting relevant portions of the name. Thanks, --Epìdosis 12:08, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

In this particular case the English label was also non-standard, causing issues like this. The labels are already both fixed. Edoderoo (talk) 15:11, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

Ludvik Čepon

Hi!

Could you fix nl description at Q105622859 to smth. like Slovenian American theologist. I cannot do that as I am not speaking Dutch and your bot description is bit wrong. Thanks for fixing.

With regards, --A09090091 (talk) 17:25, 22 February 2021 (UTC)

Edit summary "‎Changed label, description and/or aliases in pap: pintor Hulandes @ pap-wiki)"

Viewed from the item level, this doesn't seem to make a lot of sense, e.g. [2]. --- Jura 10:50, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

You mean the edit-summary? I will update it this afternoon, it that makes you happy. Or do you mean something else, as you do not clearly tell what is your point. Edoderoo (talk) 11:24, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

I don't understand the meaning of "pintor Hulandes" when your bot adds a description in pap to Leila (Q1607500). Can you explain what you mean to say? Also, why aren't you using a default edit summary? --- Jura 11:29, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Also, why "@ pap-wiki"? --- Jura 11:42, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

What is wrong with the papiamentu-wiki? Edoderoo (talk) 12:07, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Nothing, but why mention it there? Your bot edits "pap"-description, not papwiki. Why mention "label" if you edit the description? --- Jura 12:44, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Why mentioning it at the admin-board, when there is actually no issue? Edoderoo (talk) 13:42, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

It seemed to run unattended. In the meantime, do you understand the problem and will you fix it? It appears that you can't really explain what it's doing and why it's doing it. Is there a bot authorisation for it? --- Jura 15:35, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

The problem was already fixed this morning, as far as there was a problem. As always, a problem is as big as you make it. Edoderoo (talk) 16:15, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

The current non-automatic part of the edit summary is still not correct. It doesn't match the edits the bot is doing. Can you summarizes in simple words what is the task you are trying to do? --- Jura 21:03, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

USSR person description

Hi, the line

'Sovjet-Unie' : 'Russisch',

is not quite right. USSR was a multinational state, and not all people who lived there were Russian. Is there another appropriate adjective in Dutch that can be used instead? Ата ^talk 10:34, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

This has been mentioned several times before, and in Dutch we call it all Russian. So it is quite right. Edoderoo (talk) 11:04, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

Is it at least possible to take into consideration currently existing state in P27? E.g. Q106491320 is a citizen of Ukraine at the moment and therefore can be described as Oekraïense radiopresentator. Ата ^talk 11:38, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

Kako da ne. At the time my bot made the description, the first nationality was USSR, therefor the bot made the description Russian. So basically it already does what you want, but only when the data is entered in the right time in the right place in the right order. Edoderoo (talk) 12:35, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

Countries of citizenship were entered in the right order – chronologically. I merely asked whether there is a technical possibility for the bot to check whether there is another value of P27 with currently existing state as opposed to the one that is not. If not then not, I am not asking to rewrite everything you have.

But I have checked with several translators and they advised to use nl Sovjet- for en Soviet [3]. Can we please do that? Ата ^talk 13:33, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

People from the Sovjet Union were called Russen in Dutch, with Russisch as demonym, sometimes it was referred to as de Sovjets, but that was usually with a military connotation. Sovjet-Rus. And the description is not meant to be as strict as P27, as it is only a description of the item that tells the nationality and profession of a person, it is not meant to be a certified translation for an official document. These descriptions are meant to help users identifying the right person when they use the search functionality, making the description dificult and politically correct is not the objective. Edoderoo (talk) 13:57, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

If I understand you correctly, any Dutch reader should be able to distinguish between Russisch = Soviet and Russisch = modern day Russian. I do not perceive this as an obvious distinction in case of Wikidata descriptions, therefore I assume that the more literal is the wording – the better, especially when it comes to describing living people for whom being Russisch in any meaning is not their main characteristic anymore. Ата ^talk 14:08, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

I'd like to ping @ Vincent Steenberg , Natuur12: would you be so kind to comment on this as nl-N users? --Ата ^talk 12:50, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

You might want to bring it up on Wikidata:De_kroeg. I think it also illustrates that the bot adds the descriptions too quickly (see my comment above) and the user was still adding the initial data. --- Jura 13:00, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

Schilderijen beschrijvingen bot heeft beschrijvingen overschreven

Hoi Edo, het gaat hier goed fout. Ik vermoed dat je in je code alleen kijkt of 1 taal moet worden bijgewerkt en dan zonder te checken de andere talen ook doet. Kan je dit onderzoeken en de schade herstellen? Zie Wikidata:WikiProject_Visual_arts/Item_structure#Use_of_creator_(P170)_in_uncertain_cases voor de verschillende varianten. Op https://w.wiki/3Egy kan je wat voorbeelden vinden (niet allemaal gelukkig). Multichill (talk) 22:00, 25 April 2021 (UTC)

Ik heb het script (dat al dagen liep) eerst maar even gestopt, en zal even kijken wat-en-hoe nu verder. Edoderoo (talk) 06:36, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

Edo nog nagedacht hoe dit op te lossen? Wellicht maar gewoon de boel terugdraaien, code verbeteren en opnieuw draaien? Heb je een manier om te filteren? Welke periode heeft de bot deze aanpassingen gedaan en is de Nederlandse beschrijving dan altijd "schilderij van anoniem"? Dan zou je zo'n query kunnen doen. Datum aanpassen. Kijken of er een revisie van je bot is na die betreffende datum en deze dan terugdraaien. Zal een beetje gepruts worden. Hoe langer je ermee wacht hoe meer werk het wordt om het nog recht te trekken. Multichill (talk) 11:04, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

Volgens mij zijn het wel voornamelijk anoniemen, maar vast niet alleen maar (dat zou geluk of toeval zijn). Het wordt nog een tricky scriptje om te bepalen wat er gewijzigd is, en of dat dan klopt, of niet. De snelste weg vooruit zou inderdaad het script (goed) aanpassen zijn, en dan net doen alsof alle omschrijvingen overschreven kunnen worden. Dat zal voor 99% ook gelden, maar als dat dan weer niet 100% goed gaat zal dat ook weer vragen opwerpen. Edoderoo (talk) 11:52, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

Nog naar kunnen kijken? Let trouwens even op dat je bot niet in de war raakt door aanpassing van hoe anoniem wordt gedaan. Multichill (talk) 12:26, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

Please take a look at this page

Please take a look at this page https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q106421313

I looked at it. Now what? Edoderoo (talk) 08:58, 13 June 2021 (UTC)

Incorrect capitalization of descriptions being added

Hi,

I have seen "Isla" added as a Papiamentu description on numerous items, but this does not follow the capitalization guidelines for descriptions. Only proper names/proper nouns in descriptions are supposed to be capitalized. I assume that "Isla" is not normally capitalized in Papiamentu. The description should be "isla". It would be helpful if future bot additions follow the capitalization best practices in Wikidata. UWashPrincipalCataloger (talk) 19:06, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

I know the common capitalization rules, and I've taken isla (or Isla) from other items. If we're (almost) 100% sure it should be in lowercase, I can easily fix that in a next botrun. In the meantime I will see to check with a native speaker. Edoderoo (talk) 19:37, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

Bot mistakes

Melina Ağca (Q97740160) was opened by this bot. The source used by the bot says she has two citizenships, the first one of which is Turkish. How come this bot state that her country of citizenship is Germany ignoring her Turkish nationality and citizenship (which is written in the first line at the source)? Does the bot make segregation? The bot owner says, on their user page, "Gave up my admin-rights, because one autocrat took my bot-bit because the user was unreliable." I do not know how that happened nor have time to investigate, but most probably the problem was not with the person but with the bot. Dear Edoderoo, at first look I thought that the bot was no more active and these were old edits. But I see that the bot is still active today. Therefore I believe you must make some adjustments to avoid these mistakes of your bot and clean up the old ones. Thanks and regards. --E4024 (talk) 13:04, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

You say it is a mistake, I say it is a property. Some people have a whole list of citizenships (read as: a whole stack of passports), my bot-script will only use the very first one for a description only when there was no nl-description before. Technically, the properties are nubmered, the script will take the one with index=0. I know that there will always be someone that would suggest to use the other one, or use both, or use none, but the script does not work that way, and it would also not make a lot of sense to do so. There will be exceptions, in those cases the description can be entered/overwritten manually, once filled in, my botscript will never touch it again. Edoderoo (talk) 13:29, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

I now see that it is not about the description of the item (this was already asked ten times before, therefor I assumed that, and 99% of my bot edits are about descriptions only) ... but about a soccer player imported from SoccerDonna. I'm not sure if the source during the import already mentioned two nationalities, I have to check if I still have the csv-file that was generated, and even then it will not say much about the SoccerDonna-website a year ago. For this one item I have changed the properties manually. Edoderoo (talk) 15:15, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

Voetbalclubteam

Hallo, Je geeft aan items die een association football club (Q476028) zijn de omschrijving "voetbalteam uit ...", maar Q476028 is een voetbalclub in plaats van een voetbalteam. Zou je dat in je script aan kunnen passen? Met vriendelijke groet, --Strepulah (talk) 16:12, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

Ik zal eens het script uitbouwen om dat verschil mee te nemen. Ik vrees dat het in de praktijk vaak ook door elkaar heen wordt gebruikt, maar de omschrijving kan natuurlijk wel gewoon de P31 volgen. Edoderoo (talk) 09:59, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

Oké, top. --Strepulah (talk) 15:25, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

De code is nu aangepast. Maar items als d:Q21180893 worden dan toch wel tricky ;-) Edoderoo (talk) 19:49, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

Hmm, ja. Toch zou ik als het zowel een club als een team is, eerder club in de omschrijving zetten. Het is in de eerste plaats toch vooral een club. Dat 'FC' in de naam staat niet voor Football Team, wil ik maar zeggen. Kun je dat nog omdraaien, iets van if'jes switchen ofzo? --Strepulah (talk) 20:39, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

Er zijn 398 van die items. Mijn script pakt sowieso overal de eerste (claim['P31'][0]), ook bij beroepen of nationaliteiten. Een script kan nooit bepalen of de tweede/derde meer belang heeft, dat soort puntjes op de i moeten we uiteindelijk met de hand doen. En als er een handmatige omschrijving bestaat, blijft mijn script er af. Edoderoo (talk) 04:51, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

Ah, oké dan. --Strepulah (talk) 06:37, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

Dear bot

Hi. I am getting tired of correcting your mistakes. Please tell your boss to repair the software. Thx. --E4024 (talk) 02:17, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

The source of these edits come from the template kurzbeschreibung on the German wikipedia. So it's not my bot that needs repair, but the user that entered this Kurzbeschreibung mit Fehler on the German wikipedia. Edoderoo (talk) 12:12, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

PS: By the way, when you get tired already of two mistakes, please consider professional help!

Human relations in the WP realm require professional help. BTW I only disturbed you with 2 (two) of the mistakes, when I began getting bored after correcting many others. --E4024 (talk) 17:32, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

I see that the template Personendata on the German language wiki has the correct description, but it fails on finding the right position to copy the description from the template. Therefor it misses the first three characters (in your first example), and add three other characters. It must have to do with non-ascii characters in the lemma-text, taking two positions in the text somehow. But I do not use this script anymore, so fixing it does not make much sense either. If my script didn't run at all, the descriptions would have been blank. That's indeed without an error. Edoderoo (talk) 19:34, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

Non-Dutch Dutch labels

Hi! I noticed You (this bot) copies descriptive labels (that are not proper names) in other languages to the nl label as if they were in Dutch.

It is true that such a label is currently helpful, because e.g. WikiShootMe ignores all other languages and labels then English and Dutch. But in general and in perspective, this solution is not systemic. It would be more useful if all the outputs and application interfaces could automatically display the label in another language if the label in the preferred (set) language is missing. Unfortunately, WikiShootMe ignores also the language setting completely. "Wikidata Infobox" at Commons is a bit more sophisticated. --ŠJů (talk) 10:16, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

I have never seen this 'language fallback' seen working properly, therefor I prefer to have the labels copied, if not entered already. Else I will see 99% of the labels in my queries ending up with 'Q5498305' on the display, and/or myself editing 16 hours a day on labels only. The tool you mention is unknown to me. Edoderoo (talk) 11:39, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

"The tool I mention" is the only available and linked map which display Wikidata items and Commons images in a slightly usable form. It is very imperfect, but links to no better ones are available. --ŠJů (talk) 14:20, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

Overbodig

Ik weet niet of deze bot het nog steeds doet, maar de toevoeging tussen haakjes voor disambiguatie hoort niet in labels thuis, in aliassen evenmin. En verder zijn aliassen voor voor labels met diakritische tekens niet (meer) nodig. Groeten, --Strepulah (talk) 21:11, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

Dat komt vooral doordat mensen zelf helemaal nergens iets invullen, wat eigenlijk ook voor de omschrijvingen geldt. Bij de haakjes niet toevoegen, wat ik een tijd heb gedaan, krijg je weer andere problemen, bijvoorbeeld bij de miljoenen wetenschappelijke artikelen. Dat metrostation heeft die haakjes al in de nl-artikelnaam staan, die heb ik een tijd (of nog steeds, dat moet ik dan uitzoeken) ook als alias toegevoegd, omdat in heel veel gevallen het label van artikelen finaal anders is dan de artikelnaam. Dat er nooit haakjes in een alias mogen klopt ook niet. Heel veel voornamen en achternamen zijn niet meer terug te vinden als je niet ook een alias <naam> (voornaam) of <familienaam> (achternaam) aanmaakt. Dan zijn die haakjes enorm behulpzaam. Edoderoo (talk) 05:16, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

Bot only ran every 24 hours

It would be nice if your bot only ran every 24 hours, thanks. At the moment it bothers more than it would be helpful. I see no reason why the Dutch name for family name has to be entered every hour. Best regards --HarryNº2 (talk) 20:11, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

Where does it bother you? Edoderoo (talk) 08:01, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

It bothers me when editing the data sets. Often your bot also makes mistakes, because it labels incorrectly created data sets with the Dutch label. That makes unnecessary additional work. --HarryNº2 (talk) 17:16, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

:)

... --E4024 (talk) 01:02, 23 September 2021 (UTC)

That is what you get, when ppl revert vandalism with a different profession then the one that was originally there ;-) Edoderoo (talk) 04:35, 23 September 2021 (UTC)

Please update your Pywikibot

Hi, I noticed that User:Edoderoobot is using an old version of Pywikibot. Please update it to version 6.6.1. My email announcemnt has some more details and links if you have questions. Thanks, Legoktm (talk) 23:15, 24 September 2021 (UTC)

I couldn't figure out how to update, so I re-installed pywikibot in another folder. Some scripts will run from the old folder for a few weeks until they're completely finished, or until I'm forced to reboot Ubuntu, but new scripts will start from the new folder. Thanks for letting me know! Edoderoo (talk) 08:36, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

mul-labels

Je bot voegt heel veel labels voor wetenschappelijke artikelen toe. Hoe nodig is dat? Er bestaat al een fallback naar de en-labels. Dan voegt een nl-label met nota bene Engelse tekst niks toe toch? Er staat daarnaast op dit moment ook een ticket open op Phabricator, phab:T285156, met een voorstel om taalcode mul aan de termbox toe te voegen, waarmee er een soort label voor alle talen komt. Er wordt nog gediscussieerd over de implementatie, maar het lijkt erop dat het er wel gaat komen. Zou je met het oog daarop niet overwegen om, al dan niet tijdelijk, te stoppen met labels toevoegen? Groeten, --Strepulah (talk) 13:41, 4 October 2021 (UTC)

Het antwoord staat op 5 Whys (Q238599). Edoderoo (talk)

Dat zijn vooral vragen, geen antwoorden. Mijn vraag was meer van: hoe nodig is het om data toe te voegen die al aanwezig is in de database? Daar bestaat toch een prima fallback voor in de vorm van een en-label dan wel van een mogelijk toekomstig mul-label? --Strepulah (talk) 15:03, 4 October 2021 (UTC)

Of korter: die gekopieerde labels zijn geheel overbodig toch? --Strepulah (talk) 13:19, 6 October 2021 (UTC)

Olympedia import, quantity precision

Hey Edoderoo, I see that you are importing data from Olympedia, particularly height (P2048) and mass (P2067) claims. Can you please remove the bounds from the imported claims? Olympedia does not give any indication how precise these values are, and probably it’s not really a measured weight/height anyways. Thus, both properties should just be imported without any bounds here. Thanks, MisterSynergy (talk) 14:57, 11 October 2021 (UTC)

Unfortunately, the python library does not allow to have void boundaries. I will double check if this is still the case in 2021, but until now it always was. Manually you can leave it blank, that's true. Edoderoo (talk) 08:27, 12 October 2021 (UTC)

Well, good new! Something got changed improved over the years ;-) I can now add numbers without a mandatory precision. So from now on I will add weights and heights of ppl without a precision, just like the source. Thanks for pin-pointing this issue! Edoderoo (talk) 09:16, 12 October 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, much better now!

pywikibot can already do this for many years. Since I am not sure whether you are aware of it, I also point to the pywikibot documentation which is pretty decent meanwhile.

—MisterSynergy (talk) 10:58, 12 October 2021 (UTC)

parish churches with cemetery around

Hi, regarding [4], I have seen that I removed your translation twice. This is a church with a cemetery around, a case quite common. Dutch begraafplaats is misleading. How can we solve this? best --Herzi Pinki (talk) 21:32, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

Usually my bot will only put a description once, but there are occasions it will loop through a certain range/query another time. When the description is <blank> it will add it again. To my opinion a description that is partially true is better then no description at all, in that point of view your removal is not really an improvement. You can solve this for sure by making sure that there will be a description for the Dutch label, even if it is only a dash or a dot or an invisible space. But the best way is to add a better description manually. Keep in mind that descriptions are used mostly in search results, where <no description> is for sure not helpful, and a partially correct description is indeed more meaningful then long lists of labels (or even worse: Qxxxx's) with no more info than just that. Edoderoo (talk) 10:46, 15 October 2021 (UTC)

ok, you (your bot) don't care for a correct description, so I won't either. --Herzi Pinki (talk) 22:56, 15 October 2021 (UTC)

Neither do you, when deleting other's work. Why do you come here to talk, when it is only meant to complain and show your superiority? Edoderoo (talk) 07:19, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

That's a bit harsh. It seems Herzi Pinki was just looking for a solution for some inaccurate edits from your bot. As pointed out, the Dutch label was somewhat misleading and perhaps you could rather have no label than a misleading label. Possibly the best solution would be to prevent this altogether by adjusting the bot. Maybe you could say like if an item instance of (P31) parish church (Q317557) and cemetery (Q39614), that you reflect that in the description, which shouldn't be too hard, right? What do you think? --Strepulah (talk) 10:20, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

All I say: when people reply to my serious reply with you don't care, and I'm God, then the talk is over. Edoderoo (talk) 11:28, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

You say a partially correct description is better than none, I do not agree, but I will not care for such texts any more, when you consider it to be partially correct (that's what I wanted to express with the statement above). I will not compete with a bot. It is about the glass that is half empty or half full, for me such descriptions are partially false (they miss the main aspect, it would be an improvement to make it a church instead of a begraafsplaats, if you cannot make it both). Nothing harsh about that, just a bit of resignation. There is no superiority in me failing with my intention to get this behavior fixed. Personal superiority is not the force that drives me here at all. best --Herzi Pinki (talk) 16:21, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

Adding Netherlands descriptions to new items of railway lines and stations

Hi @Edoderoo,
I've noticed that you bot adds NL descriptions to new items that are created for railway lines and stations (for example). But what about railway stops (instance of (P31) = railway stop (Q55678))? Do you skip them deliberately?

Also, could you please also add English descriptions created in the same manner as Netherlands ones?
Thank you! Michgrig (talk) 23:07, 5 November 2021 (UTC)

My script uses the P31 as the base of what description to give. railway stop (Q55678) is not in there yet, but I can add them.

Theoretically I could add other languages too, but to keep the script simple and less error-prone, I do not support other languages.

There used to be the descriptioner tool that could add descriptons in any language, but unfortunately the tool disappeared. Edoderoo (talk) 07:04, 6 November 2021 (UTC)

I ran a query over all 7308 items, but only 43 could get/would need a description. Main reason seems that most of them were railway-stations too, and got a description spoorwegstation already. But future new stops will be described consequently by my script. Edoderoo (talk) 10:12, 6 November 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for your reply. That's very strange that your script found only 43 items that fall under these criteria. During the past couple of weeks, I've created about 450 items, and the vast majority (about 2/3, if not 3/4) of them are railway stops. Michgrig (talk) 15:41, 6 November 2021 (UTC)

Ah, I've probably understood the difference in numbers. Your bot cannot add a description if the area in the statements does not have a Netherlands description. And because I try to specify a low-level area for stations, they seem not have one. Michgrig (talk) 20:15, 6 November 2021 (UTC)

Hi @Edoderoo,

You wrote:

> But future new stops will be described consequently by my script.

Are you sure you corrected the script? New stations are added the NL description (example) but new railway stops are not (example). Also, I can see "Q55488" in your script but I do not see Q55678 there. Michgrig (talk) 07:50, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

It seems that there is a small bug in the script, but I didn't find time to solve it yet. Edoderoo (talk) 09:19, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

Fixed it, the script is now running. New items usually get a description within 2 hours. Edoderoo (talk) 09:32, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

Don't add Dutch labels to scholarly article

English scholarly article don't have Dutch titles so please don't add them Germartin1 (talk) 19:13, 21 November 2021 (UTC)

You mean do not translate them, because they do have a title, the English one. Edoderoo (talk) 19:57, 21 November 2021 (UTC)

mixture of Dutch and Swedish

Hi, noticed cases like this having a Dutch description like Grundbach (vattendrag i Österrike, Tyrolen) created by your bot. There are about 350 watercourses with the same problem in Austria alone Query. Did not check other countries nor other root P31. best --Herzi Pinki (talk) 11:52, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

That was an issue that happened 5 years ago, the source has been fixed for that long ago. Edoderoo (talk) 12:29, 25 November 2021 (UTC)

Austrian Empire ended

Hi Edoderoo,

It seems your bot still adds it as country description: [5]. --- Jura 20:15, 29 December 2021 (UTC)

Because the first country mentioned is this historical country, and the item itself lacks a country. I could rewrite this function to take the preferred property of that claim. But adds *it* as country description sounds a bit cryptic to me as well. It adds the country to the description for most P131-related descriptions. Edoderoo (talk) 13:41, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

I'm not sure how many other descriptions are problematic for the same reason as at [6]. Apparently the bot uses the values at Q34713#P17 incorrectly. --- Jura 13:57, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

You bot does not add descriptions to new items

Hi Edoderoo,
I noticed it's been some time since your bot last added descriptions to items of railway lines and stations that I create (for example, this one was created a month ago and still no English or Dutch descriptions added). Is something wrong with the bot? Michgrig (talk) 09:54, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

I left Wikimedia on january 9th, you can ask the Dutch community why. Although I guess they will have laughter about the drop that made the bucket flood, and will not know nor care about the bigger picture. Edoderoo (talk) 10:42, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

It's a huge pity. Hope that someday you will return and will again participate in at least some of the projects. Michgrig (talk) 17:52, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

Ukrainian not Russian

Hello! If you say that this is not a big mistake, then I ask you to correct all these mistakes yourself. Thank you. --Бучач-Львів (talk) 07:16, 9 June 2022 (UTC)

Zangeres in plaats van zanger

Hoi Edoderoo,

Ik weet niet waarom je hier zanger hebt ingevuld met je bot, maar ze is een zangeres. Zou je daar in het vervolg wat secuurder in willen zijn?

Met vriendelijke groet, Mondo (talk) 12:19, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

@Mondo: je zal Edo en z'n robot niet meer op nieuwe incorrecte bewerkingen kunnen betrappen, want Edo is helaas niet meer actief.

"Zanger" mag in het Nederlands trouwens gewoon voor vrouwen gebruikt worden ([7]). Steeds meer van dit soort woorden zijn tegenwoordig onzijdig. Multichill (talk) 12:26, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

O, wat jammer dat Edo ons verlaten heeft. Ik vond Edo altijd een fijne collega.

En oké, ondanks dat ik nog niet zo oud ben (31), ben ik niet mee met al die tegenwoordige trends. Het klinkt in mijn oren raar, maar goed. Mondo (talk) 12:38, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

@Mondo: ja, het is écht jammer, bijna hartverscheurend te noemen, nadat hij/Wikipedia in Woerden een koninklijke onderscheiding ontving. Misschien komt hij ooit nog terug, onder een andere naam. We zullen het waarschijnlijk nooit te weten komen. Lotje (talk) 06:15, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

O, dat wist ik niet eens. In dat geval is het helemaal een groot verlies. Ik bedoel: je krijgt niet zomaar een koninklijke onderscheiding… Hopen dat ie inderdaad ooit terugkomt. Mondo (talk) 08:43, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

Inderdaad Mondo, tel daarbij nog gebruikers zoals MoiraMoira, die er, net zoals, Hansmuller, de brui aangaf... Dit zijn slechts een paar voorbeelden. Jammer. Lotje (talk) 09:13, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

Ja, MoiraMoira is ook zeker een gemis; ze was een ontzettend goede moderator… HansMuller heb ik niet gekend. Mondo (talk) 09:17, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

@Mondo: Dit is 'em, met een indrukwekkend palmares, als je 't mij vraagt. 11:01, 2 October 2023 (UTC)Lotje (talk) Lotje (talk) 11:01, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

@Lotje: @Mondo: Dank voor de aandacht, maar Hansmuller is niet gestopt: Wikipedian in Residence Afrika-Studiecentrum Leiden https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:GLAM/African_Studies_Centre_Leiden#Project_Wikipedian_in_residence_2019_-_2023 (sluikreclame)? Wel is hij sinds juni 2021 illegaal, want zonder overleg en zonder aanleiding, geblokkeerd op nl.wikipedia. Vriendelijke groetjes, Hansmuller (talk) 13:25, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

Sorry HansMuller, dat bedoelde ik ook. Klein misverstand. Mes excuses. :-) Lotje (talk) 13:41, 2 October 2023 (UTC)