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KMT has been inactive over 3 months. According to [[ja:Wikipedia:管理者の辞任]] (jawp desysopship policy), his/her sysop, bureaucrat and checkuser access must be removed. See the discussion [[ja:Wikipedia:管理者の辞任#管理者の自動退任]]. Thank you.--[[User:ZCU|ZCU]] 00:56, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
KMT has been inactive over 3 months. According to [[ja:Wikipedia:管理者の辞任]] (jawp desysopship policy), his/her sysop, bureaucrat and checkuser access must be removed. See the discussion [[ja:Wikipedia:管理者の辞任#管理者の自動退任]]. Thank you.--[[User:ZCU|ZCU]] 00:56, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

:{{done}}
:I've also dropped a mail to checkuser-l-owner@wikipedia.org
:--[[User:M7|M/]] 13:44, 13 August 2007 (UTC)


==== EN Wikipedia ====
==== EN Wikipedia ====

Revision as of 13:44, 13 August 2007

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This page enables stewards to handle permissions requests, including the giving and taking of administrator, bureaucrat, checkuser, and oversight rights, for all Wikimedia wikis which do not have a local permissions procedure. If your wiki has a local bureaucrat, submit your request to that user or to the relevant local request page (see the index of request pages). Requests for bot status, URL blacklisting and whitelisting, and CheckUser queries belong elsewhere.

For urgent requests, such as to combat large-scale vandalism on a small wiki, contact a steward in the #wikimedia-stewards IRC channel (see a web-based IRC client). In emergencies only, type !steward in the channel to inform stewards that you need help.

Please only make requests here after gaining the approval of your local community.

When requesting permissions, copy and paste the following text into the correct section. Please fill in all the required fields -- language code, link to the local request, and link to your local user page. Without this information, a steward cannot process your request.

Please summarize your request in the "summary". 

==== Project name and language ====
I request sysop access.
*'''Language Code:''' xx
*'''Local Request Link:''' [[:xx:Project:wiki]]
*'''Automatic List of local bureaucrats:''' [[:<xx:project>:Special:Listusers/bureaucrat]]
*'''Local User Page:''' [[xx:User:Example]]

Thank you. ~~~~

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Administrator access

See administrator for information about the position. Requests for temporary permissions and removal of access belong in other sections.

Sinhala Wikipedia

I request sysop access for Sinhala Wikipedia.

Thanks! ~Kylu (u|t) 22:16, 3 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Not done
Though I've seen your request on the community portal, may I suggest you to list here, since this is the local request link and there is also another self-nom on that page. Thank you, M/ 13:35, 6 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Will do. ~Kylu (u|t) 22:37, 6 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks a lot, please list yourself again here in a week, if there is still consensus. --M/ 13:15, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
They've happily re-voted over at si:Wikipedia:Administrators#Kylu now. Will relist soonish. ~Kylu (u|t) 01:38, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Gothic Wikipedia

I request administrator access to the Gothic Wikipedia, as I'm the ancient sysop of this wiki (got:User:Sajasazi), but since the automatic changes of password done by Brion Vibber, I lost acces to my account. Jacques Pirate has also asked for adminship on the wiki, but he doesn't know the language well enough, and it'll be easier for me to correct his mistakes if I got adminship, instead of telling him every time what he has to change.

Thank you. Yadönapya 09:18, 13 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ask Brion for assistance (I assume you have no email set up for that account). --Shanel 04:46, 15 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I've done it already. He never deigned to answer me. Actually, there's a mail set up for that account, but that mail doesn't exist anymore. And I don't really want to get my ancient account back. -- Yadönapya 11:43, 15 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If you haven't already, try contacting Brion on IRC. You can use the CGI:IRC gateway provided by Wikizine . He is usually in the channel #wikimedia-tech, using the nick "brion" or "brion-office." I personally would prefer for you to ask him first; I have no way of knowing if you and Sajasazi are the same person. If you really don't want to keep the old account, please hold an election if possible.--Shanel 04:51, 16 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There is an election on the Baurgs Brunna for both me(for permanant adminship) and Yadoenapya(as well, though how is differently). Unfortunately only three people currently regularily contribute to the wiki. One of these people - Manie - is absent, and the two others are Yadoenapya/Sajasazi and I. We have contacted Manie on his/her talk page about two days ago, but Manie has yet to respond at the time of writing. Manie has not provided us with an email to contact him/her with. --Jocke Pirat 05:26, 16 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
You can contact Manie over af.wiktionary, best regards, --birdy geimfyglið (:> )=| 17:53, 16 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. I contacted Manie, and it seems the votes are in for both me and Sajasazi. --Jocke Pirat 00:44, 18 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

A few more people have voted, and the poll has existed for over a week. Jadanapja and I should be able to get adminship based on the votes - or in my case permanant adminship. --Jocke Pirat 18:03, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Done - I have; --Walter Do you have news? Report it to Wikizine 13:29, 8 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  1. de-sysoped w:got:User:Sajasazi
  2. I have made Yadönapya@gotwiki sysop - Note: I noticed that you have voted on you own approvel, I find that strange
  3. Jocke Pirat is now permanant sysop --Walter Do you have news? Report it to Wikizine 13:56, 8 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Komi Wikipedia

I request sysop access.

This Wiki has been totally aborted! It needs a "clean up", because some articles are in russian, and the most there is in komi is too short! Therefore I would be administrator on this wiki to make it beeing reborn.

Thank you. Vörmort 09:52, 19 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Not done For permanent access please gather consensus at the local community. Note that there is also the possibility to apply for temporary sysopship. Effeietsanders 18:10, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

But the problem is that there is no local community which I can get the consensus at! This wiki is totally desert!

Request temporary permission. MF-Warburg(de) 12:03, 25 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Wikiquote Afrikaans

I request sysop access. There are spam to be removed, pages to be protected, and certain MediaWiki messages to be translated.

Thank you. 41.243.9.19 19:19, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Not done
No support vote at the moment, it doesn't seem that there is a community on this wiki. You should apply again for a temp adminship on the section below. Thank you, M/ 20:46, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wolof Wiktionary

I request administrator access for User:Ibou on Wolof Wiktionary.

Thankyou. --Jose77 21:58, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Done
--M/ 14:39, 11 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Dutch Wiktionary

I request sysop access. I have sought consensus and obtained 4 yea's and no nay's. I doubt there will be more votes to come.

Done
--M/ 14:40, 11 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Lithuanian Wikibooks

Please give the sysop access to Dirgela. The vote is here

Thank you, lithuanian wikibooks administrator, Matasg 08:35, 13 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Done
--M/ 13:39, 13 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Bureaucrat access

See bureaucrat for information about the position.



CheckUser access

To request CheckUser information, see Request for CheckUser information. This is the place to request CheckUser access. Note that temporary CheckUser access is not permitted.

Stewards: When someone asks for CheckUser status, please check the current policy regarding bestowal of status before giving the status. Breaching these rules may be cause for removing your steward access. When you give someone CheckUser, please list them on CheckUser, ask them to subscribe to checkuser-l, email checkuser-l-owner@wikipedia.org so that the listadmins know the person is allowed on the mailing list (the list may contain confidential information), and make sure they contact an op for access to #wikimedia-checkuser.

English Wikipedia

Hiya. Please grant enwiki checkuser access to en:User:Lar and en:User:Deskana. They're both already OTRS, and hence have already identified themselves properly to WMF. For the English Wikipedia Arbitration Committee: Jpgordon 03:53, 13 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Being on OTRS does not mean they have necessarily identified themselves. Majorly (talk) 07:16, 13 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks Jpgordon... Majorly: I can't speak for Deskana but I have already identified myself to the foundation, and cross verified my accounts between here and en: (see my WikiMatrix for details/proof on both those things) and I already hold CU on Commons and Meta, so it should be relatively straightforward in my case. I also believe that OTRS access now requires identification but I could be wrong. Cary could comment further, I am sure. ++Lar: t/c 08:21, 13 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Should a steward require that I identify myself further, I can e-mail a photo of my British Passport to Cary, or whoever else wants it. If that's not sufficient, I can make other arrangements for further identity verification if so required. --Deskana 10:28, 13 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Deskana, have you identified yourself to the Foundation yet for any other position? If not, then you will need to e-mail Cary with your British Passport, yes. FloNight 10:50, 13 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I submitted my name for OTRS access, but I wasn't required to identify myself further. I will send Cary a photo of my passport immidiately. What address should I send this to? --Deskana 10:56, 13 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I'll email you the address and the fax number. FloNight 11:02, 13 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Identification received. Cary Bass 13:14, 13 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Done
--M/ 13:22, 13 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Italian Wikipedia

I request checkuser access on the Italian Wikipedia (it:User:.anaconda); election ended 96/3/2. Mail to secure-info sent about 25 minutes ago (I was waiting for some automatic reply...) Thank you. --.anaconda 05:36, 11 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Identification received. Cary Bass 13:13, 13 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Arabic Wikipedia

Hi, Iam user Tarawneh [1] from ar wiki. I resigned from Bureaucrat, checkuser, and Sysop lists in ar wiki a few months ago, according to policy the other checkuser ar:user:chaos was removed from the checkuser list [2], now ar wiki has new checkusers, and hence no reason , by policy , exists to keep chaos away from his rights. I had a chat with Cary, he agreed and he advised me to post a request here.

  • Language Code: ar
  • previous request, and grant of rights for chaos: [3]
  • Local User Page: ar:User:chaos

Thank you. --Tarawneh 23:52, 13 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please ask him to contact Cary (cbass at wikimedia dot org) to provide some identification first. guillom 19:01, 17 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
So has this been done?--Shanel 20:56, 21 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
not yet. --ميموني 20:08, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Hi ... Sorry but I cannot do the checkuser jop right now .. maby later .. there are 3 usercheckers in ar.wiki right now .. that is so enough for now --Chaos 12:59, 5 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Portuguese Wikipedia

Hello, I've recently been voted bureaucrat (and subsequently checkuser) in wiki.pt I've already send an email to secure-info at wikimedia dot org, but I haven't been answered yet. pt:User:Epinheiro (pt:User:Lusitana should be on the same conditions, I don't if she already sent the email). Epinheiro 23:59, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Olá Epinheiro. Eu já contactei o funcionário do Office responsável pela identificação. Assim que obtiver a confirmação de recebimento do seu e-mail, eu ativarei a permissão de CheckUser para a sua conta na pt.wiki. Redux 14:57, 3 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Identification received. Cary Bass 13:16, 13 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Done
--M/ 13:28, 13 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oversight access

Do not initiate an oversight request here. The Arbitration Committee will make the request once there is consensus on the local wiki (this process is currently for en-Wikipedia only).

Stewards: When you give someone oversight access, list them on Hiding revisions.

Removal of access

If you want to request that your own status be removed, please don't forget to place a note in English on your local user talk page. This is required to prove your identity. And then add the request here.

To request the removal of another user's status, you must gain consensus on the local wiki first. All discussion must be kept on your local wiki. When there is community consensus that the user's access should be removed, a trusted person from that wiki should provide a link here to the discussion, a very brief explanation of the reason for the request, and summarize the results of discussion.


Japanese Wikipedia

I request removal of ja:User:KMT's sysop, bureaucrat and checkuser access.

KMT has been inactive over 3 months. According to ja:Wikipedia:管理者の辞任 (jawp desysopship policy), his/her sysop, bureaucrat and checkuser access must be removed. See the discussion ja:Wikipedia:管理者の辞任#管理者の自動退任. Thank you.--ZCU 00:56, 13 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Done
I've also dropped a mail to checkuser-l-owner@wikipedia.org
--M/ 13:44, 13 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

EN Wikipedia

By request of EN checkuser and arbcom member w:en:user:Mackensen I have hade done a de-sysop of EN admin w:en:user:Shreshth91 --Walter Do you have news? Report it to Wikizine 22:09, 7 August 2007 (UTC) Done[reply]


Temporary permissions for emergency or technical purposes

If you are requesting administrator status to make a translation of the wiki interface, see also the BetaWiki project, which seeks to make a neutral MediaWiki translation that will then be default for all wikis. That is more useful than only making a local translation. You can ask questions in the IRC channel or in the mailing list. See also MediaWiki localisation.

Stewards: Currently active temporary permissions are listed at /Approved temporary. When granting a request, please copy the request to the appropriate section there, and clearly state the date of removal. Requests only need remain listed below for a few days, and may afterward be removed as long as they have been copied to the subpage.

Old English wikiquote

I request temporary sysop access to clean up.

Thank you. Thogo (talk) 23:56, 12 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Haitian Creole Wikisource

I request sysop access in order to clean spam and non-sense pages on this wiki. I have proposed that it should be closed, yet there are about 20 pages which need deletion, and there is no local sysop at the moment. I guess a 2-day adminship should be enough :-). I am sysop on frwiki, htwiki and commons.

Thank you ! le Korrigan →bla 13:04, 11 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Manx WP

I request sysop access to delete spam until there are sysops, thogo wrote in #wikimedia-stewards: <Thogo> MF-Warburg: I will write to all of them to elect a sysop (or two or three). Meanwhile you could request for a cleanup-temp.

Thank you. MF-Warburg(de) 18:15, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Not done there is currently one sysop who is active so there is no emergency. Also you have no userpage there and 0 edits. I think you best contact Norrin Strange and setup an sysop election. --Walter Do you have news? Report it to Wikizine 14:21, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Alternatively, I request temp sysop access for gv:User:Norrin Strange, maybe for 3 months. He seems to speak the language, to be active and he does a good job there. He already requested for permanent sysopship above which was refused (because there might be some other active users as well), but anyway. I think he will be a help for the project. :o) (Cf. his own request some headlines below.) Greetings, --Thogo (talk) 18:40, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

He was already sysop --Walter Do you have news? Report it to Wikizine 14:21, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Maori Wikibooks

I request temporary sysop access to delete spam.

Thank you. MF-Warburg(de) 08:47, 12 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Not done There is no longer spam to remove. I deleted 3 empty pages. This wiki has only the Main page, I doubt it needs a sysop. --Snowdog 12:33, 12 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
There are still a few more pages already marked with {{delete}}, which only have spam and its removal in their history. But these can also be deleted when the Wiki is closed down, see Proposals_for_closing_projects/Closure_of_Maori_Wikibooks. Ahoerstemeier 12:47, 12 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Have checked wiki for spam problem; it is a dead wiki, nobody is there, also no spammers. --Walter Do you have news? Report it to Wikizine 14:29, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Dzongka Wiktionary

I request temporary sysop access to clear up the spam and vandalism that has accumulated there.

Thank you. MF-Warburg(de) 13:27, 10 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Not done There is no longer spam to remove. I deleted 3 empty pages. This wiki has only the Main page, I doubt it needs a sysop. --Snowdog 13:00, 12 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
And those pages in dz:Category:Candidates for speedy deletion? MF-Warburg(de) 14:33, 12 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
That link was wrong, and I have deleted them. b:dz:Category:Candidates for speedy deletion --Walter Do you have news? Report it to Wikizine 14:39, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Komi Wikipedia

I request temporary sysop access.

Thank you. Vörmort 10:15, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I request temporary access because there is nobody on this wiki...

If there's nobody, why do you want it? drini [es:] [commons:] 17:44, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Swahili Wiktionary

I request sysop access.

I've been sysop before on temporary, I live in Nairobi; I have tried to interest people (e.g. at Kenyatta Univ.) and continue; sw.wikt needs someone to clean up various SPAM. Thank you. Robert Ullmann 21:41, 15 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

For permanent access please gather consensus at the local community. Note that there is also the possibility to apply for temporary sysopship. Effeietsanders 10:02, 23 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, I didn't realize there was now a different section. There is no local community yet, although I have been trying to build one by talking to people at KU, etc. Robert Ullmann 16:10, 3 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
It would also be useful to set 'bot flag for RobotGMwikt, also for rw and ts below. Robert Ullmann 19:47, 3 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The only thing a bot flag does is hiding those edits from the default recent changes. That is not a good idea for a wiki that has no community and almost no edits. --Walter Do you have news? Report it to Wikizine 14:52, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Done Temp granted Expires 2007-10-09 --Walter Do you have news? Report it to Wikizine 14:52, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Kinyarwanda Wiktionary

I request sysop access.

I've been sysop before on temporary, I live in Nairobi, spend some time in Rwanda; looking for contacts at univ in Butare; rw.wikt needs someone to clean up various SPAM. Thank you. Robert Ullmann 21:41, 15 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

For permanent access please gather consensus at the local community. Note that there is also the possibility to apply for temporary sysopship. Effeietsanders 18:09, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
no local community, no sysops, see comment(s) above :-) Robert Ullmann 16:10, 3 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Xitsonga Wiktionary

I request sysop access.

I live in Nairobi. I've had a request to add things to this wikt, but little progress. meanwhile, it needs maintaining/spam blocking. 0 admins at present. Thank you. Robert Ullmann 21:41, 15 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

For permanent access please gather consensus at the local community. Note that there is also the possibility to apply for temporary sysopship. Effeietsanders 18:09, 24 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
no local community, no sysops, see comment(s) above :-) Robert Ullmann 16:10, 3 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Miscellaneous requests

Requests that don't fit in other sections belong here. Note that the following types of requests belong on separate pages: bot status, URL blacklisting and whitelisting, and requests for CheckUser queries. If you want to have changed your Meta username, please go to Meta:Requests for help from a sysop or bureaucrat. If you want to have changed a username on a Wikimedia wiki without bureaucrats, please go to Requests for username changes.(Existing requests have been moved to the appropriate page.)

Import access at SiSwati Wikipedia and Wiktionary

I want to be a member of the import group on sswiki and sswiktionary. I am also sysop on these two wikis.

Thank you MF-Warburg(de) 10:49, 12 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Issue at tpi.wp

Request:

Relevant links:

Thanks. Siebrand 15:26, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

See also, Talk:Requests for permissions#Issue at tpi.wp --Jeremyb 16:08, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I too think User:K. Kellogg-Smith is somewhat trigger happy. I got an infinite block on tpi.wiktionary for nominating the article w/index.php for speedy deletion. Or maybe it was for creating an user account. It only took two minutes from I created the account till I was blocked for vandalism. This was done by User:K. Kellogg-Smith. --Jorunn 01:02, 11 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

From the archives: [4] he's got sysop until october, granted by shanel. I?m unblockign the bots and setting the flags, those are both well known bots by well known interwikiers. So this is just paperwork. Someone should really explain to him blocking nonvandalism is not to be done lightly, and if many changes bothered him, he should've requested a bot flag for those accounts drini [es:] [commons:] 02:15, 11 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Also, extract from his tpiwiki talk:

*The Tok Pisin Wikipedia is being reconstructed/restructured to meet Wikipedia standards.  Because I am doing all the work on this project, I take the position that my sysop/administrator authority permits me (among other things) to delete any and all articles that (1) I believe are non-relevant stubs, (2) articles that are clearly not encyclopedic, and (3) anything else that in my judgement do not meet the criteria of a bona fide Wikipedia article or Wikipedia stub.  Argue and complain about it if you wish.  In my best judgement the Polish stubs you refer to met all of the criteria I have stated here.   K. Kellogg-Smith 15:00, 5 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

While he maybe may be right, that's no way to get more people involved, sysops should be specially careful on small wikis to be polite and patiently guide newcomers. drini [es:] [commons:] 02:20, 11 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]


 Well known "bots" or not, I believe they violate the basic principles of the Foundation.  They are launched by one or more "users", they cannot be edited, commented upon, or otherwise controlled except by deleting or manually editing the lists the "bot" software unilaterally creates and inserts in articles.  I have seen the absurdity of having long "SieBot"-generated lists of language links attached to one-, two-, or three-line stub 'articles', text that that can't meet even the most basic Wikpedia requirements for classification as a Wikipedia article.
 While User:Drini has the authority as a steward to unblock my blocks and "setting the flags", it would have been much more helpful had it known where in Wikimedia the information about "bots" and requesting "a bot flag for those accounts" is located, and providing me with an interWiki link to take me there as an FYI.  But, since I had previously compiled an alphabetized list of some 610 Wikipedia: namespace articles (as of this date; there are many more out there that for the past few months I haven't had the time to list), I'll go ahead and provide the link to "Wikipedia:Bot policy" here for the edification of all of you.  But please note, there is no information in that article about Steward Drini's suggestion about requesting "a bot flag for those accounts".
 User Jorunn had several methods available to contact me if I had erred in blocking it on the TPI Wikipedia, but did not do so.  My apologies to it if I erred.
 As a final note, I had been working on the two TPI Wikis for about six weeks prior to my request for temporary sysop permission being granted on July 9th.  There were no active users, and the registered sysop had done nothing at all with the Wikis for at least a year and a half.  Speaking bluntly, there was and is no TPI community; no new articles have been inserted more than two and a half years (and no new ones to date).  Except for my work, the Tok Pisin Wikipedia is in fact defunct and inactive (except for the busy language linking bots creating language links to non-articles (User:Siebrand take note here and review the bot policy on useful interWiki linking).  In fact, the Wikipedia community (as indicated by those who have signed on to WikiProject Melanesia) is busy with writing English-language articles about Melanesia for inclusion in the English language Wikipedia, and with only one exception, have not in any way become involved with the Tok Pisin Wikipedia.  So put aside your grandiose ideas about the "Wikipedia community" everyone here talks so much about.  My target is to make the TPI Wikipedia and Wiktionary acceptable as a respectable knowledge resource to which the real Melanesian community will itself come around to discovering, using, and making contributions for its furtherance and development. I've got less than sixty days now to bring the two TPI Wikis up to an acceptable standard and at a level that will appeal to educated Melanesians and expatriate nationals working in the region.  That, my friends, is where I belive the true Tok Pisin Wikipedia community is going to be coming from.

Regards, K. Kellogg-Smith 04:23, 11 August 2007 (UTC) (TPI sysop/administrator)[reply]

  • Further to this, I notice that K. Kellogg-Smith has infinitely blocked the IP address 202.173.157.112 (block log) giving the reason "Inserting nonsense/gibberish into pages", when contributions from this IP address consist solely of minor edits to userspace pages and subpages of User:Aliasd, the owner of the static IP address.

    In my opinion this demonstrates yet again that K. Kellogg-Smith is abusing his temporary sysop powers (infinitely blocking bots and other users for little or no reason, deleting geographic stubs, and being sufficiently hostile to other users that the active user base of each project now consists only of himself).

    I request that the block on the IP address 202.173.157.112 be lifted. Wantok 08:55, 11 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
A bit more information on the IP block:
  • The IP was used to edit my user account once when I forgot to log on.
  • The IP was only editing in userspace. Only on one account.
  • The IP was blocked for producing nonsense, which it clearly was not.
  • The IP is a static IP which is not used publicly.
There is NO REASON why there should be a block on this IP. Rationale was not clearly defined and a request for explanation has not been answered. Aliasd 09:25, 11 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Update: K._Kellogg-Smith's reply to the block here Aliasd 18:14, 11 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Pardon me, but I am flabbergasted by the way K._Kellogg-Smith has literally taken ownership of tpi.wp. I have few words for it. Cheers! Siebrand 18:17, 11 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Quote from K. Kellogg-Smiths answer to Aliasd: You didn't log on under your user name, so to me you were just another anonymous contributor (WikiMedia rules state that unregistered users may edit, but not contribute articles to Wikipedia.)
This is only a complete misunderstanding, I hope. --Jorunn 22:50, 11 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Although your contributions were stubs in need of being developed further into full fleged Tok Pisin articles, they were nonetheless very worthwhile contributions, and very much appreciated. I was pleased to see them, but unable to talk to you about them. So I figured if I blocked your IP you'd do as you just did — contact me about being blocked, and we could go on from there. -- And that was...? Aliasd 07:16, 12 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Tsk tsk, AliasD. Quoting out of context. For shame. Why didn't you quote my entire message to you? And also with the text of the Wikipedia e-mail I sent you to illustrate the alternate method of intercommunication made available by the Wikipedia Foundation, eh?

As for abusing my sysop/administrator privileges, or "taking over" the two TPI Wikis, I have this to say:
Facts are facts.  Neither AliasD nor Matt Andrews ("Wantok"), who have complained above, and both of whom claim near native fluency in Tok Pisin, and who, like me, are members of the WikiProject Melanesia, had before now made any attempts whatsoever to keep the Tok Pisin Wikipedia alive during (and before) the year and a half that it was dormant and neglected.  Spam and vandalism piled up, but neither of the two posted "speedy delete" notices to any of the obvious spam/vandalism that had occurred and was still occurring.  Although both lived and worked in the nation of Papua New Guinea, and had daily, intimate knowledge of the language and regular contact with others who were/are fluent in the TP creole language, neither bothered to take the time and effort to write and contribute Tok Pisin articles (not even simple stubs, mind you) to the dormant, nearly dead and dying, Tok Pisin Wikipedia.  Go figure.  Fluent in the neo-Melanesian ("tok pisin") creole language, but not willing to contribute to the Tok Pisin Wikipedia.  But more than willing to contribute to Melanesian articles in the English language Wikipedia.  Not until I came along and started making waves, that is.  Now their heads and hackles come up.  User:Wantok began by copying English language Wikipedia articles into the TPI Wikipedia: namespace, articles on "Requesting administrator permissions".  And now User:AliasD and User:Wantok have begun anonymously entering edits and articles into the TPI Wikipedia.  As I told User:AliasD, I have no objection whatsoever to anyone entering articles in good faith into the TPI Wikipedia and Wiktionary, but I do object to those entries being done anonymously, without any means of knowing who the author is, or how the author can be contacted.  And since both complainants know me, know how to contact me directly on the WikiProject Melanisia portal, and know how to contact me on my EN Wikipedia Talk page, and in addition have never added anything (with the one-time exception of User:Wantok) to my regular WikiProject Melanesia progress reports reflecting their dislike of what I'm doing with the two TPI Wikis.   So I find it quite disingenuous of the two to express their complaints here that their anonymous IP's were blocked when they knew all the time that they could contact me directly at any time on several different venues.  And so, User:AliasD, to answer your question, that's "what is ..."

As a software developer, web designer and maintainer, published writer, a long time documentation specialist in writing corporate policies and procedures, user manuals, copy editing technical/academic papers, and a man who has lived in and traveled extensively in the Pacific and Pacific Rim countries (not to mention the rest of the world), one who speaks several languages and understands a great many more, I have often been, and tolerated, critical analysis of my work.  I took on the task of helping to clean up the Tok Pisin Wikipedia purely as an offshoot of my knowledge of the Hawaiian language and its creole, Hawaiian pidgen English, and having a classmate who is deeply involved in the re-writing of the Hawaiian-language Bible in contemporary ("linguistic") Hawaiian.  To me, reviving a dormant Wikipedia for an absolutely unique pidgin English creole and turning it into an information resource useful and accepted by everyone and anyone in Melanesia, Oceania, and the Pacific Rim countries, indiginous native peoples and non-indiginous expatriates, academic and non-academic alike, for use as a language and information resource in a region where cannibalism is still a very recent memory, is not an ego-enhancer, but a "labor of love" on which I have spent countless hours working on and developing during the past two months.  My knowledge of Melanesian pidgin English goes way back, but my ability to read and write has developed quite rapidly during the past month.  It is my knowledge and understanding of the history and development of neo-Melanesian ("Tok Pisin"), and its use in contemporary Melanesian society, which is helping me to make distinctive changes to the format of both the Tok Pisin Wikipedia and the Tok Pisin Wiktionary, along with my understanding and use of a number of European and Oceanic languages that have figured in the development of PNG's pidgin English language.

At the outset of my work I proposed to the WikiProject Melanesia group that an ad hoc board of editors be formed to define policies for the Tok Pisin Wikipedia.  That ad hoc group, consisting of members of WikiProject Melanesia group augmented by any outside professionals who might be interested, was never formed.  Why?  Because none of the group's members, other than User:Wantok and his supporter, User:AliasD (both of them among my "accusers" above) responded to my proposal.  During the past two months I have extensively documented my ideas about the direction the Tok Pisin Wikipedia could/should take, and the work I have been doing to implement those ideas.  Matt Andrews (User:Wantok) was the only WikiProject Melanesia member who took the time to comment on my ideas.  He offered some very good ideas, but was opposed to my idea of having the Tok Pisin Wikipedia multilingual (Tok Pisin - English) to reflect the contemporary usage and intermixing of the two languages, preferring instead to keep TPI Wikipedia Main namespace articles and other namespace fucntions written exclusively in Tok Pisin, no English allowed.  Although I had openly supported Matt in his unsuccessful request to be granted Adminship in the EN Wikipedia, and again openly supported him in his also unsuccessful request to be granted temporary sysop/adminstrator permissions, supporting him in the belief that we could cooperate in getting the TPI Wikipedia back on its feet again, Matt's belief in the requirement that the TPI Wikipedia be exclusively a Tok Pisin Wiki directly conflicts with my belief that the TPI Wikipedia of necessity (given the minimal, almost non-existent, access to computers and Internet by the majority of Tok Pisin speakers) should be a learning resource for the people living and working in Melanesia by making available to them a multi-lingual Wikipedia through which they could learn more about the country they live and work in, and a resource to which they themselves can contribute.  That goal requires first and formost that the TPI Wikipedia be honest and presentable, and not a compendium of meaningless one-, two-, three-, and four-line "stubs", title placeholders, and "contest" entries by individuals seeking to get their home town in as many Wikipedias as possible, the condition in which the TPI Wikipedia is now, but is gradually being changed.

You can say what you want, and complain all you want, about the way I'm going about reorganizing the two Wikis, but that reorganization is based on experience doing that kind of work elsewhere, and the need to get it done as quickly as possible, bypassing Wikipedia conventions whenever necessary.  My way is a way that icon Jim Wales understands, and which is documented in the Foundation's "Ignore All Rules" (IAR) principle to be used whenever the rules stand in the way of getting a job done.  And I have only until October 9th to do that.  And I don't mind stepping on toes until October 9th if that's what it takes.  I certainly, and I hope clearly, don't consider my being a sysop for a defunct and near-dead Wikipedia means being nothing more than a sort of schoolyard "hall monitor".  It does mean that to me, but also a whole lot more than that in this case.  You can depose me if you wish, but in the end it will be the peoples of Melanesia that will suffer, not me.

Regards,

K. Kellogg-Smith 18:47, 12 August 2007 (UTC) (TPI sysop/administrator)[reply]
Really, this can't go on until October 9th. K. Kellogg-Smiths attitude and actions are not in accordance with how a Wikipedia or Wiktionary administrator should act. --Jorunn 08:49, 13 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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