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Should wikis follow U. S. law or not + question about FOP etc.
In Talk:Wikimedia_Foundation_Legal_department#Question_about_copyright_for_wikis and Talk:Copyright#Copyright_on_wiki_projects I asked questions about now free wikis are to make their own rules about copyright.
For example I noted that Legal/Legal_Policies#Applicable_Law say that WMF "may request" that a local wiki policy is compliant with U.S. law. That could be read like a wiki DOES NOT have to follow U. S. law UNLESS WMF REQUEST that they do.
Some wikis host photos of buildings and statues not covered by FOP. Is that for example okay?
Can wikis host files that are free in their home country but not in the U. S.?
I visit many wikis to check files but it is sometimes hard to persuade local wikis to delete the files when there is no clear answer about how much they can decide on their own.
Can anyone answer the questions or tell me how I find anyone that can? --MGA73 (talk) 13:02, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
MGA73, you should have asked me. Any wiki can upload as many copyvios as they want. And copyright owners can file as many DMCA takedowns as they want. Commons hosts tons of files claiming European/Canadian/etc FoP. Any of those can be DMCA'd and sometimes they are. (see this discussion from 2018)
This actually harkens back to the "we are idiots" essay I never actually wrote: nobody can ever know what is and is not protected by copyright and unless a project becomes an organized copyvio machine, all is well. In the event a project does become an organized copyvio machine, I imagine WMF will request them to comply with US law. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 06:37, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
Alexis Jazz If any wiki can host all the copyvios they want then we should delete or change c:Commons:Project scope/Precautionary principle and close most DR's etc. on Commons as not done. I think it would require someone from Legal Staff to confirm that. I have challenged the principle a few times because some users think we should delete all that could be a copyvio where I think the words "significant doubt" means that it is okay that there is a risk it is a copyvio as long as the risk is not significant. --MGA73 (talk) 15:54, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
That's an option. Legally any project can leave copyright policing entirely to DMCA claims that Legal processes. Generally projects will police themselves though to be better aligned with the goal of the project, providing freely licensed information. Also to avoid pissing off Legal. There is often a grey area in c:COM:PRP, there's no hard line and some will certainly interpret it poorly. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 08:43, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
Wikimedia Foundation 2021 Board of Trustees election has begun
Voting has begun in the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees elections!
Voting ends at 23:59, 31 August 2021 (UTC). Verify your eligibility and vote now:
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EpicPupper (talk) 00:45, 20 August 2021 (UTC)
Universal Code of Conduct News – Issue 3
Universal Code of Conduct News
Issue 3, August 2021
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Welcome to the third issue of Universal Code of Conduct News! This newsletter will help Wikimedians stay involved with the development of the new code and will distribute relevant news, research, and upcoming events related to the UCoC.
If you haven’t already, please remember to subscribe here if you would like to be notified about future editions of the newsletter, and also leave your username here if you’d like to be contacted to help with translations in the future.
  • The Enforcement Draft Guidelines - The Enforcement Draft Guidelines for the Universal Code of Conduct has just been published on meta in different languages. These guidelines include some definitions of newly introduced terms and recommendations for local enforcement structures. (continue reading)
  • Enforcement Draft Guidelines Review - Before the enforcement guidelines are finalized, they must be reviewed and discussed by the community. The facilitation team has set up various discussion means throughout this review period. (continue reading)
  • Conversation Hours & Roundtables - To listen to community opinions and exchange ideas regarding enforcement draft guidelines proposed by the drafting committee, the UCoC facilitation team will be hosting weekly conversation hours. (continue reading)
  • Wikimania Wrap-up - The facilitation team hosted a Roundtable at Wikimania 2021, featuring some WMF trustees and staff. The session offered some insights on how the Enforcement Draft Guidelines came about, and what next steps are being imagined. (continue reading)
  • Translation - Because a considerable number of Wikimedians are not English speakers, and that UCoC applies to all members, projects across the wikimedia movement, it’s of a great importance to provide adequate language support throughout this process. (continue reading)
  • Diff blogs - Check out some interesting publications about the UCoC on Wikimedia Diff blog. (continue reading)
  • WMF's 2021 Board of Trustees election - Please read the Candidate Presentations and vote! (continue reading)
MNadzikiewicz (WMF) (talk) 22:21, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
Take a look at "Structured text" new project proposal
Take a look at "Structured text" new project proposal --QDinar (talk) 14:52, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
New project proposal - WikiYouth: Building Open Data Together
Hi, everyone!
I am one of the organizers of the IGF Youth Summit, a Day 0 project of the IGF 2021. As a member of the board of the Youth SIG from the Internet Society, we are trying to engage young people that are part of the internet governance ecosystem in Wikimedia projects. We delivered our first project a few months ago, but now we are trying to do something more focused and easier to learn, while trying to get more fruitful results to the Wiki community.
That is why we are proposing a Rapid Grant Contest centered in Wikidata called WikiYouth: Building Open Data Together, aiming to add relevant data to Internet Governance and youth pages. I would really appreciate it if you guys could review it and give us a few tips on how to improve the idea, and if anyone wants to help in this project, we would love an extra hand or two!
The 2022 Community Wishlist Survey will happen in January
Hello everyone,
We hope all of you are as well and safe as possible during these trying times! We wanted to share some news about a change to the Community Wishlist Survey 2022. We would like to hear your opinions as well.
We will be running the Community Wishlist Survey 2022 in January 2022. We need more time to work on the 2021 wishes. We also need time to prepare some changes to the Wishlist 2022. In the meantime, you can use a dedicated sandbox to leave early ideas for the 2022 wishes.
Proposing and wish-fulfillment will happen during the same year
In the past, the Community Tech team has run the Community Wishlist Survey for the following year in November of the prior year. For example, we ran the Wishlist for 2021 in November 2020. That worked well a few years ago. At that time, we used to start working on the Wishlist soon after the results of the voting were published.
However, in 2021, there was a delay between the voting and the time when we could start working on the new wishes. Until July 2021, we were working on wishes from the Wishlist for 2020.
We hope having the Wishlist 2022 in January 2022 will be more intuitive. This will also give us time to fulfill more wishes from the 2021 Wishlist.
Encouraging wider participation from historically excluded communities
We are thinking how to make the Wishlist easier to participate in. We want to support more translations, and encourage under-resourced communities to be more active. We would like to have some time to make these changes.
A new space to talk to us about priorities and wishes not granted yet
We will have gone 365 days without a Wishlist. We encourage you to approach us. We hope to hear from you in the talk page, but we also hope to see you at our bi-monthly Talk to Us meetings! These will be hosted at two different times friendly to time zones around the globe.
We will begin our first meeting September 15th at 23:00 UTC. More details about the agenda and format coming soon!
Brainstorm and draft proposals before the proposal phase
If you have early ideas for wishes, you can use the new Community Wishlist Survey sandbox. This way, you will not forget about these before January 2022. You will be able to come back and refine your ideas. Remember, edits in the sandbox don't count as wishes!
Answer on the talk page (in any language you prefer) or at our Talk to Us meetings.
SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 00:22, 7 September 2021 (UTC)
Call for Candidates for the Movement Charter Drafting Committee ending 14 September 2021
Movement Strategy announces the Call for Candidates for the Movement Charter Drafting Committee. The Call opens August 2, 2021 and closes September 14, 2021.
The Committee is expected to represent diversity in the Movement. Diversity includes gender, language, geography, and experience. This comprises participation in projects, affiliates, and the Wikimedia Foundation.
English fluency is not required to become a member. If needed, translation and interpretation support is provided. Members will receive an allowance to offset participation costs. It is US$100 every two months.
We are looking for people who have some of the following skills:
The Committee is expected to start with 15 people. If there are 20 or more candidates, a mixed election and selection process will happen. If there are 19 or fewer candidates, then the process of selection without election takes place.
Will you help move Wikimedia forward in this important role? Submit your candidacy here. Please contact strategy2030 with questions.
This message may have been sent previously - please note that the deadline for candidate submissions was extended and candidacies are still being accepted until 14 September 2021. Xeno (WMF) 17:16, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
Server switch
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The Wikimedia Foundation tests the switch between its first and secondary data centers. This will make sure that Wikipedia and the other Wikimedia wikis can stay online even after a disaster. To make sure everything is working, the Wikimedia Technology department needs to do a planned test. This test will show if they can reliably switch from one data centre to the other. It requires many teams to prepare for the test and to be available to fix any unexpected problems.
They will switch all traffic back to the primary data center on Tuesday, 14 September 2021.
Unfortunately, because of some limitations in MediaWiki, all editing must stop while the switch is made. We apologize for this disruption, and we are working to minimize it in the future.
You will be able to read, but not edit, all wikis for a short period of time.
Other effects:
This project may be postponed if necessary. You can read the schedule at​. Any changes will be announced in the schedule. There will be more notifications about this. A banner will be displayed on all wikis 30 minutes before this operation happens. Please share this information with your community.
SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 00:45, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
Talk to the Community Tech
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As we have recently announced, we, the team working on the Community Wishlist Survey, would like to invite you to an online meeting with us. It will take place on September 15th, 23:00 UTC on Zoom, and will last an hour. Click here to join.
The meeting will not be recorded or streamed. Notes without attribution will be taken and published on Meta-Wiki. The presentation (first three points in the agenda) will be given in English.
We can answer questions asked in English, French, Polish, and Spanish. If you would like to ask questions in advance, add them on the Community Wishlist Survey talk page or send to
Natalia Rodriguez (the Community Tech manager) will be hosting this meeting.
Invitation link
See you! SGrabarczuk (WMF) (talk) 03:03, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
free wikipedia
you now have to have a account for permission to edit Farsi wikipedia. Baratiiman (talk) 15:27, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
Not sure what you want us to make of that link, though it does appear that fawiki has started enforcing registration requirements for actions to mainspace today via w:fa:Special:Abusefilter/history/235​, enacted by one of their bureaucrats, @Yamaha5:. This is primarily a fawiki issue, but perhaps Yamaha5 can point to a community discussion that others that are interested can review? — xaosflux Talk 18:06, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
FWIW, another fawiki admin has disabled the blocking filter, however there is an open phab task (phab:T291018) to do this again via software. — xaosflux Talk 15:33, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
Grants:Project/Rapid/Amuzujoe/Landscape photography
Dear Community Members,
I am announcing a rapid grant we submitted about educating potential editors on naming of pictures on commons so pictures don't get lost, and also educating people on how to upload pictures on commons using the phone and the laptop. We would be very grateful to have your feedback and endorsements about this project. Please see the proposal here:
Kind regards, Amuzujoe (talk) 19:29, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
link from nonexistent pages to other language versions
for example, in there is red link "populosus", when i open it, there is new article form, but no interwiki links. the "populosus" red link has
url and
{{etyl|la|en}} {{m|la|populosus||full of people, populous}}
code. if i search for " populosus" in google i see there is french article for that. if i manually type in address bar, i see a page with search buttons, but there are no interwiki links. pressing the search buttons, i can find several articles, in english wiktionary, that link to the nonexistent "populosus". i think it would be good if there were interwiki links in the nonexistent page and in the new article form. --QDinar (talk) 19:50, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
I've occasionally wanted that feature when editing Wiktionary too. --Oerjan (talk) 22:23, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
Interwiki links depend on a record to the page being on wikidata - it is never assumed that just because two content pages have the same title that they are about the same subject. For an example, assume you were going to create this page w:en:Lotta Herzog, while it does not exist on enwiki, it does on dewiki - but it is also possible two people can have the same name. On enwiki, we do provide a link to search other projects for the title. — xaosflux Talk 00:07, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
@Xaosflux: Interwiki in Wiktionary main namespace is not provided by Wikidata, but by mw:Extension:Cognate​.--​GZWDer (talk) 15:13, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
Movement Charter Drafting Committee - Community Elections to take place October 11 - 24
Full announcement in other languages
This is a short message with an update from the Movement Charter process. The call for candidates for the Drafting Committee closed September 14, and we got a diverse range of candidates. The committee will consist of 15 members, and those will be (s)elected via a 3-step process:
The community elections will take place between October 11 and October 24. The other process will take place in parallel, so that all processes will be concluded by November 1.
For the full context of the Movement Charter, its role, as well the process for its creation, please have a look at Meta. You can also contact us at any time on Telegram or via email (wikimedia2030
Xeno (WMF) (talk) 03:11, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
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