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Can't visit login page or https wiki pages in IE7/8 on Windows XP (on SauceLabs)
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I used SauceLabs to test a feature in IE7 on Windows XP. Although Resource Loader does not support this browser, anonymous browsing of regular wiki pages works fine. When I visit http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:UserLogin , it fails with IE7's generic error page

Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage
Most likely causes:

  • You are not connected to the Internet.
  • ...

I also get this generic error page I try to visit https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheep and the login page redirects to https, so maybe it's actually an https issue. IE7 doesn't show what net error it receives.

I can visit other https sites in the same SauceLabs browser setup, so I'm not sure why login and https fail on Wikimedia sites. IE8 on WIndows XP on SauceLabs, which RL does support, fails the same way, while IE8 on Windows 7 on SauceLabs is fine.

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If this is only Windows XP in SauceLabs then it's low priority (WMF does not run any browser tests at SauceLabs on Windows XP). I would appreciate it if someone could try IE7 or IE8 on Windows XP outside SauceLabs.

@Whatamidoing-WMF - Kinda? See also the explanation here: T25932#3614933 . TL;DR is that just because we removed the cipher that IE8/XP should use, that doesn't necessarily mean that no IE8/XP clients will ever connect to us.

Going by https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Compatibility/Software_for_using_MediaWiki#Grade_B , currently IE6-8 seem to all fall into the Grade B category of support. But I think once this 3DES deprecation is done, chances are good that at least the WinXP versions of those will be <0.1% and should be removed from Grade B. However, https://stats.wikimedia.org/wikimedia/squids/SquidReportClients.htm doesn't break down by underlying OS version, which is why IE8 is higher there (it's including e.g. IE8-on-Vista and others).

However, https://stats.wikimedia.org/wikimedia/squids/SquidReportClients.htm doesn't break down by underlying OS version, which is why IE8 is higher there (it's including e.g. IE8-on-Vista and others).

FWIW, that's deprecated, https://analytics.wikimedia.org/dashboards/browsers is the (much fancier) replacement that can also provide OS/browser combination statistics.

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IE8 support has been removed in MW 1.36 and in course of T248061.