U.S. Department of State 96/04/30 Briefing: Amb. Wilcox on Patterns of Global Terrorism, 1995 Office of the Coordinator for Counterterrorism [Excerpts from the Daily Press Briefing, April 30, 1996] Special Briefing by Ambassador Philip C. Wilcox U.S. Coordinator for Counterterrorism U.S. Department of State April 30, 1996 MR. BURNS: .....I'd like to turn the podium over to Ambassador Philip C. Wilcox. As you know, he's the U.S. Coordinator for Counterterrorism. He has been in that position since 1994. He is one of our most distinguished Foreign Service officers, one of our most distinguished diplomats. He's had a number of very challenging assignments in his career all over the world and here in the Department. He will brief you on the Department's annual report to Congress on "Patterns of Global Terrorism in 1995." As you know, this report is Congressionally mandated. The Department is required to provide Congress with assessments of foreign countries where significant terrorist acts occurred, as well as on those countries that are on the State Department's terrorism list. The Department has been producing this report for over 15 years, and this latest report covers the calendar year 1995. Following Ambassador Wilcox's presentation, he'll be glad to take questions from you. When he is finished, we'll have a 10-minute adjournment, and then I'll come back and we'll resume the Daily Briefing on all other issues of interest to you. Mr. Ambassador. AMBASSADOR WILCOX: Thank you, Nick. Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. As you know, "Patterns of Global Terrorism" is published annually by Congressional mandate. You will be glad to know that it will be available this year on the Internet; the Internet address will be posted in the Press Office. As President Clinton said when he signed the new Counterterrorism Act last week, combatting terrorism, both domestic and international, is a critical priority for this Administration. Although terrorism kills or injures relatively few people compared to other forms of violence, it inflicts an extraordinary psychological, political, and economic toll. It's random quality, the fact that it strikes without warning, the fact that it preys upon innocent victims, gives it a particularly evil quality. It increases our collective sense of fear and vulnerability. That's why we pay so much attention to it. Terrorism is also a powerful, yet low-cost political weapon. It's also used for strategic purposes -- to bring down governments, to foment revolution, to reverse historical initiatives like the Arab-Israeli peace process, and to turn back political, social and economic change. Historically, terrorists have failed to achieve such strategic goals. Although they often proclaim to be revolutionaries, today, they're most often in the rear guard rather than the vanguard. They're predominantly reactionary and anti-democratic. In the court of world opinion, they and their causes are increasingly on the defensive, and that's where we want to keep them. But the damage they inflict -- for example, the threat they pose to the Arab-Israeli peace process -- shows that terrorism still has strategic potential. We pay a great deal of attention to it, therefore, as a foreign policy priority. Democratic open societies likes ours are especially vulnerable to terrorism. We have exposed infrastructures on which we are very dependent, and terrorists are increasingly mobile and technically sophisticated. That makes us all the more vulnerable. The poison gas attacks on the Tokyo subway last year are a clear warning that terrorists also may use materials of mass destruction. This is a new and ominous dimension of terrorism. We're taking measures to guard the United States against this, as are other governments. Recognizing the threat posed by international terrorism to our foreign policy interests, the Clinton Administration has intensified our foreign policy efforts in this area. The new Counterterrorism Act, for example, which the President signed last week, strengthens our ability in many ways to deal with international, as well as domestic terrorism. The major planks of our counterterrorism policy are spelled out in "Patterns," but let me review them because they're important. We don't surrender to terrorist blackmail. We don't make deals. We treat terrorists as criminals, and we pursue them aggressively wherever they are, using extradition treaties and international treaties to the maximum. We work to condemn and isolate state sponsors of terrorism. We work to strengthen our cooperation with other governments through diplomacy, law enforcement, intelligence cooperation, training, cooperation in research and development, in document security, and in many other areas. We also go after fund-raising for overseas terrorists in the United States. These policies, I'm pleased to say, are producing results. Active diplomacy, for example, and intensive investigation and good intelligence won the U.S. custody of almost all of the suspects in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing. Ramzi Ahmed Yousef and three members of his gang, who are suspected for that crime, as well as for a plot to blow up U.S. civilian aircraft in the Pacific, were all brought into U.S. custody in 1995 as a result of very intensive U.S. efforts and close cooperation from foreign governments. More and more nations like ours are treating terrorism as a pure crime which cannot be condoned or excused for political reasons. International cooperation is accelerating. There are lots of signs to this in 1995. The P-8, which is an extension of the old Group of Seven, held a ministerial counterterrorism conference in Ottawa in December. That grew out of the Halifax summit last year. There was a conference on terrorism in Buenos Aires last year which was the predecessor to a conference last week, to which I led the U.S. delegation on terrorism in Lima, Peru. The Guatemalan Government was an active participant in that conference. There is a growing consciousness and willingness to cooperate among the states of our hemisphere. There's also a willingness on the part of the U.N. and other regional bodies to work together to condemn terrorism unambiguously. This is quite a change from a decade ago when there was a lot of ambivalence about terrorism for political reasons. Let me turn to the statistics for 1995 and make a few comments. They're ambiguous. But the long-term trend toward a reduction in international terrorism continues. The peak year for international terrorist acts was in the mid-Eighties. Such acts have declined by roughly half since then. Deaths in 1995 from international terrorism were about half the 1994 toll -- 165 versus 314. The number of wounded, however, soared because of the attack on the Tokyo subway. The number of Americans rose from four to 12. Attacks on U.S. Government and military personnel declined. There were 39 in 1995 versus 200 in 1986. This speaks well for the intensive security efforts that we have made abroad. Aircraft hijacking has declined tremendously thanks to much stronger civil aviation security measures. On the downside, terrorist attacks against businesses around the world have remained about steady. They continue to bear the main brunt of international terrorist attacks. The attacks against all American targets rose slightly -- 99 compared to 66 in 1994. Yet, there were 187, by comparison, in 1987. As in most previous years, some of the most devastating attacks took place in the Middle East. The Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad intensified their terrorist attacks -- bombing attacks -- in Israel, killing 45. These suicide bombing attacks multiplied in early 1996. As you know, an Israeli extremist also assassinated prime Minister Rabin. Terrorism by states we've designated as sponsors of terrorism also continued to decline because of international pressure and unilateral and international sanctions. Iran, however, is the exception. Iran assassinated seven dissident Iranian politicians, or dissident figures in 1995 compared to four in 1994. Iran continued its policy of giving material, logistic, and financial support to the rejectionist groups which are committing terrorism against the Israeli-Arab peace process. Libya also continues to defy the mandates of the U.N. Security Council resolutions which oblige Libya to turn over the suspects for the Pan Am 103 bombing to the U.K. or the U.N. Before taking questions, I want to stress an important point about counterterrorism. Defeating terrorists depends not only on good law enforcement, good intelligence collection, and professional counterterrorism efforts. It depends, to a great extent, also on a strong overall U.S. foreign policy and ample resources to support that policy. Not always but often, terrorism arises from political, social and economic conflicts. These are often the breeding grounds for some of the most venomous and dangerous terrorist movements, and we in this country have led the way since World War II in helping resolve such conflicts and by mobilizing other nations to help us in that effort. Our effort in conflict resolution and the cooperation we need from foreign governments requires resources, and our leadership depends upon our willingness to continue investing in conflict resolution and in such areas as economic development, population control and environmental protection. Our spending in this country on international affairs has been cut by about 51 percent in real terms in the last decade, and we're now at the point where we're beginning to live off invested capital to maintain our leadership. If this trend continues, I'm concerned that our counter-terrorism interests, like many other U.S. interests in the world, are bound to suffer. I'd be pleased to take your questions. Q You know that Iran has continued to give material and financial support to terrorists. You didn't mention Hizbollah, but you mentioned those who have targeted Israel and the peace process. To what extent is that aid still channeled through Damascus? AMBASSADOR WILCOX: The Government of Syria still permits the Hizbollah to import weapons through Damascus, and, as you've said, Iran is the principal sponsor of Hizbollah terrorist activities. Our view is that all of the Hizbollah terrorist acts overseas, have been committed with the guidance and support of Iran. Q (inaudible) you're saying that Damascus has taken some steps to restrain international terrorist groups. What kind of steps are you referring to exactly? AMBASSADOR WILCOX: Last week, as you know, after seven days of difficult negotiations, Secretary Christopher was able to achieve an agreement among Syria, Lebanon, and Israel, in which the previous undertakings have been renewed and strengthened to prevent Hizbollah attacks across the border against Israeli citizens as one of the main features of that agreement. That is an example of the efforts that Syria has made to restrain terrorist acts in south Lebanon. Q Can I follow up? In the course of this last year, has Syria done anything to restrain the PKK? AMBASSADOR WILCOX: That's a point of real concern for us, because the PKK, like the Palestinian rejectionist organizations, continue to be allowed to maintain a presence and offices within Syria. Q Ambassador, with all due respect, the example you gave happened last week, whereas this report is, of course, on '95. Can you give us any examples of what steps Syria has taken in '95 to restrain the international activities of these groups? AMBASSADOR WILCOX: I can say that Syria, in general, did take some steps to restrain the activities of all of these groups in southern Lebanon. Nevertheless, the fact that the Government of Syria still permits these groups to maintain a presence in Damascus -- groups which are committing terrorist attacks inside Israel -- is a very serious problem. It is one that we have raised repeatedly with the Government of Syria and which we hope will be resolved. Q On your policy, the third point about bringing maximum pressure on states that sponsor and support terrorists and treating them -- imposing economic, diplomatic and political sanctions -- how does that jibe with U.S. policy towards Syria? We have continual contacts with them for good, pragmatic reasons, but it seems to be inconsistent with that third point. AMBASSADOR WILCOX: It's really not inconsistent. The policy of sanctioning unilaterally and urging multilateral sanctions against state sponsors of terrorism is not inconsistent with maintaining relations with these countries. We do have diplomatic relations with Syria, and those are very important, and we have used those diplomatic relations to good effect to work with the Government of Syria to urge it into a full participation in the peace process. So maintaining diplomatic relations and contacts with Syria is not at all inconsistent with the efforts that we have made through sanctions and to persuade Syria to desist from its support for these terrorist groups. Q Could you give me an example of any economic, diplomatic or political pressure or sanctions that the United States has brought on Syria? AMBASSADOR WILCOX: Yes. Under the law, under which we designate formally governments which are responsible for a sustained pattern of support for terrorism, we withhold various kinds of trade, and there are very severe limits on the kinds of items that the U.S. companies can export to countries which are on the state sponsor list. Q Such as? AMBASSADOR WILCOX: Any kind of weapons which could -- or dual-use materials that could contribute in any way to the support of terrorism. Q Are they denied assistance as well if you (inaudible). AMBASSADOR WILCOX: Yes, they are. They do not receive economic assistance from the U.S. or other economic benefits. Q What about the nuclear reactor project for North Korea? AMBASSADOR WILCOX: That is not proscribed by the law, and that is a very constructive effort to move North Korea away from a policy of developing nuclear fuel producing power plants, toward more benign forms of nuclear power. Q Last question. I'm a bit mystified that Afghanistan is not on the list of countries that sponsor international terrorism. It seems to have a far worse record than some of the countries that are on the list. AMBASSADOR WILCOX: Afghanistan, indeed, has a very poor record. Afghanistan, however, is not controlled by any government. There is a government in Kabul, but its sway does not extend far beyond the city of Kabul. Much of the terrorist activity which issues from Afghanistan comes from training camps throughout Afghanistan territory which are run by various warlords. While we have urged the Rabbani authorities in Kabul to do everything they can to use their influence to stop these activities, we recognize that it is a country that is effectively without a real government. Q Back on the point of dealing with terrorist groups, leaving aside the question of Syria and also Iran, which was quite closely involved in negotiations last week, how do you -- can you assert that point when the deal that the Secretary brokered involves Hizbollah, a group that you name in your report as a terrorist group? AMBASSADOR WILCOX: The United States, as I said, does not foreswear contact with groups who may have some association with terrorism. In some cases, we have maintained these contacts because it's necessary to reduce the threats of terrorism, and the Secretary's negotiations in the Middle East last week were a very good example of that, and the result, I think, was a very good example of positive, energetic diplomacy which reduces an overall terrorist threat. Q Don't those types of negotiations tend to bring this -- legitimize this group's activities -- AMBASSADOR WILCOX: No. Q -- as legitimate resistance, which they claim? AMBASSADOR WILCOX: Certainly not. We've done nothing at all to legitimize their activities, and we've been unqualified in condemning their attacks against civilians. Q But you still deal with them? AMBASSADOR WILCOX: We deal with them indirectly, and we expect those who have influence and control over them to use that influence. Q This is Chung-soo Lee of Korean Broadcasting System. Your report said that the list -- in the terrorism countries list -- the list is sent annually to Congress, although countries can be added or removed at any time (inaudible) warrant. If so, if North Korea, as you say, give up the nuclear weapons development and accepts the four-party meetings and ease the tension at the DMZ and the deployment of forces backward, can you remove North Korea from the terrorism list before the next year's annual report? AMBASSADOR WILCOX: We can remove a country from the terrorism list at any time. There are various conditions which a country has to fulfill before it can be removed from the list. It has to demonstrate by act -- by word and act that it has thoroughly renounced any kind of support for terrorism, and we hope that all seven countries on the list will do so, including North Korea. Q So North Korea, you said -- North Korea still supports Rabbani. If they stop support for Rabbani, do you think U.S. is more willing to be (inaudible) of North Korea? AMBASSADOR WILCOX: In the 1970s and '80s, North Korea had a very serious record of committing very serious acts of international terrorism. North Korea has made statements, indicating that it no longer does support terrorism, but those statements would have to be matched by deeds. For example, a commitment to joining other countries in condemning terrorism and in other kinds of actions which would establish clearly that they have abandoned this policy. I can't predict what precise combination of efforts by North Korea would be necessary, but, as I said, we hope very much that North Korea will move in that direction. Q I am struck by your remarks that to get off the terrorism list, a country has to thoroughly renounce any support for terrorism. It says in the report here that there continue to be credible reports in 1995 of official Pakistani support to militants fighting in Kashmir, some of whom engage in terrorism. Can you sort of square the conditions that a country has to meet to get off the list to the conditions that -- you've apparently a separate set of criteria that you apply to deciding whether a country should get on the list in the first place? AMBASSADOR WILCOX: No, the criteria are the same. There has to be a sustained record of support for terrorist activities before we designate a country and doing so is a very serious act, and so we look at the information carefully before we take those steps. We have been concerned about evidence of Pakistani support for terrorism. On the other hand, the Government of Pakistan was extraordinarily helpful to the United States last year in a major anti-terrorist effort -- the arrest and extradition of Ramzi Ahmed Yousef, the leader of the World Trade Center, gang. Q A year ago, or two years ago, perhaps, we considered putting Pakistan on the list of terrorist supporting nations, state sponsors of terrorism, precisely because of its official support to militants fighting in Kashmir, some of whom engage in terrorism. For two years now you've said that there continue to be credible reports of such official support, and I'm kind of curious to know why you've decided not to pay more attention to them. AMBASSADOR WILCOX: We pay a lot of attention to it, but there has to be a substantial body of evidence that is sustained before we will take that very important act, and we have not discerned that evidence exists in the case of Pakistan. MR. BURNS: We'll take three more questions, starting with Charlie. Q Ambassador Wilcox, can you address the link, if any, that you found between Ramzi Yousef and the people arrested in state-sponsored terrorism? AMBASSADOR WILCOX: Obviously, we have looked very, very carefully and pursued all possible clues that there might be some state sponsorship behind the World Trade Center bombing. We have found no such evidence, in spite of an exhaustive search, that any state was responsible for that crime. Our information indicates that Ramzi Ahmed Yousef and his gang were a group of freelance terrorists, many of whom were trained in Afghanistan, who came from various nations but who did not rely on support or guidance from any state. Q Ambassador, Turkey, one of the NATO allies -- Greece give permission to some PKK front organization to open an office in Athens. Also, they give another permission to (inaudible). Do you contact with the Government of Greece on this subject? Do you raise your concern on this subject? AMBASSADOR WILCOX: We have very close relations with the Governments of both Greece and Turkey, as you know, and counterterrorism is very high on our agenda with both governments. Q Have you seen any evidence -- in fairly recent time -- of Iran or its surrogates targeting Americans or American interests, particularly say, in this country or in Europe outside the Middle East region? AMBASSADOR WILCOX: I can't get into specific intelligence reports, but there is continued concern about Iran's terrorist activities and its capability of launching terrorist attacks around the world. Q I guess without going necessarily into specific reports, you talk about Iran's attack against its dissidents and others. I think the question really goes to what degree do they seem to, in fact, be acting on the anti-American rhetoric with, indeed, actions to support folks or supply weapons to those who may be attacking American targets, or to what degree is it rhetoric? AMBASSADOR WILCOX: I think Iran has various motives, and certainly the anti-American animus is one of these, but it has various other motives -- the desire for hegemony in the region, a fundamental opposition to the Arab-Israeli peace process. So it's not all the product of anti-Americanism. MR. BURNS: Thank you. (###)