Michael Downey has an interview with Khaled Hamza, "editor of the Muslim Brotherhood’s official website." According to Downey "Hamza is considered a leading voice of moderation within the party, and is central to its youth-outreach efforts." One section of interest:
The Iranians follow the Ayatollah; we do not believe Islam requires a theocracy. In our view, the ulema (clergy) are only for teaching and education—they are out of the political sphere. Iran has some good things, such as elections, but we disagree with all the aggression. We disagree also with the human rights abuses from the government and attacks on the population.
Egypt's students are protecting artifacts and libraries, according to Bibliotecha Alexindrina's director, Ismael Serageldin:
The young people organized themselves into groups that directed traffic, protected neighborhoods and guarded public buildings of value such as the Egyptian Museum and the Library of Alexandria. They are collaborating with the army. This makeshift arrangement is in place until full public order returns. The library is safe thanks to Egypt’s youth, whether they be the staff of the Library or the representatives of the demonstrators, who are joining us in guarding the building from potential vandals and looters.
(Photo: An Egyptian man holds a chain as part of a ad-hoc neighborhood security militia in residential neighborhood in central Cairo the afternoon of January 30, 2011 in Cairo, Egypt.)
An invitation-only political retreat for rich conservatives, run out of the spotlight for years by a pair of Kansas billionaires, became a public rallying point for liberal outrage on Sunday, as 11 busloads of protesters converged on a resort in the Southern California desert.
An estimated 800 to 1,000 protesters from a spectrum of liberal groups vented their anger chiefly at Charles and David Koch, brothers who have used many millions of dollars from the energy conglomerate they run in Wichita to finance conservative causes. More than two dozen protesters, camera crews swarming around them, were arrested on trespassing charges when they went onto the resort grounds.
Does standing across the street shouting at the luxury resort where the Kochs are staying help change the laws that govern campaign finance and political donations? Does it accomplish anything?
Riverside Sheriff’s deputy Melissa Nieburger said that the sheriff’s department did have contacts with protest organizers, which included the California Courage Campaign, CREDO, MoveOn.org, 350.org, the California Nurses Association, United Domestic Workers of America and the main sponsor, the good-government group Common Cause, prior to the event, and that they were aware that some protesters would seek to be arrested for trespassing.
Why get arrested? Does that confer more media attention? Or is it some fuzzy thinking about civil disobedience? There are times when protest rallies make strategic sense. Participating can even be a morally righteous act. But I can't see how this is one of them. And I hope we aren't entering an era where angry progressives rabble rouse at private events for conservatives and Tea Party types respond in kind by protesting at George Soros sponsored events. Aside from bullhorn manufacturers I'm not sure who benefits, unless the idea is to intimidate the people who decide to attend such meetings, which is just dastardly. "Conservative provocateur Andrew Breitbart, resplendent in shorts and roller skates, mulled around the crowd with a couple lackeys and a small video camera, talking to (and arguing with) attendees," the story notes. When he's filming your event, it's a pretty good bet that it isn't helping your image!
I'm not against street protests. The progressive anti-war marches were an appropriate type of dissent. Sure, there were excesses, as their critics reasonably point out. But the average protestors were innocent of them, their instinct that the War in Iraq would have disastrous consequences turned out to be right, and it's easy nowadays to forget that our troops are still occupying that faraway country. Guantanamo Bay, prison rape, undeclared drone attacks in numerous countries, imperial overreach at the Drug Enforcement Agency, surveillance policy: all kinds of progressive causes are suited to efforts at raising awareness. But assembling a large crowd to shout at people attending a private event because they're rich and give to political causes with which you disagree? Seems like bullying.
Yes, I am sympathetic to some of the organizations that the Kochs fund – places like Cato and Reason, mostly because they're great on all the civil liberties and foreign policy issues that I care about, including the ones mentioned in the previous paragraph. But look. There are big money donors to all sorts of ideological groups, and I'd never think of shouting my head off at any of them. To me, the villains in American politics aren't the folks donating to ideological causes with which they genuinely agree, even if you're someone who thinks the rules governing these sorts of donations should be changed. And besides, it seems like if you're protesting the role of money in politics, your target ought to be content neutral – that is to say, you should object to methods since they're used by everyone, rather than singling out for opprobrium the people whose particular message you find wrongheaded.
An example of Egyptian torture from an infamous 2007 incident (NSFW):
This forced sodomy with a stick is not related to the war on terror, but it illustrates the brutality of Egypt's forces. Building off Jane Mayer's report on America outsourcing its torture to Egypt, Adam Serwer asks:
While the Obama administration has been quietly pressuring Egypt on human rights issues behind the scenes, it's not hard to understand why neither Mubarak nor the leadership of Egyptian security forces would take this too seriously. For years the United States has implicitly asked Egypt to violate human rights laws on our behalf. Why would they take U.S. calls to respect them seriously now?
Joe Stork of HRW has more on Egypt's record on torture:
Torture is an endemic problem in Egypt and ending police abuse has been a driving element behind the massive popular demonstrations that swept Egypt over the past week - Human Rights Watch has documented the torture in a 95-page report, "'Work on Him Until He Confesses': Impunity for Torture in Egypt."
Egyptians deserve a clean break from the incredibly entrenched practice of torture. The Egyptian government's foul record on this issue is a huge part of what is still bringing crowds onto the streets today.
Prosecuting torture and ending the emergency laws that enable a culture of impunity for the security forces should be a priority for the new Egyptian government.
Mark Ketterson is allowed to bury his husband, a Marine, in a standard military funeral:
“They were always polite, but there was this moment of hesitation,” Ketterson recalled. “They said they’re going to need something in writing from a blood relative. They asked, ‘Are you listed on the death certificate?’ ‘Do you have a marriage license?’ ”
He was and they did, the couple having been married in Des Moines when gay marriage became legal in Iowa two years ago.
Ketterson sent a copy of the marriage license. That changed everything. “I was respected,” he said. “From that moment on, I was next of kin. They were amazing.”
Freddie DeBoer responds to Will Wilkinson on nuclear annihilation:
There are still enough active nuclear weapons in the world to render much of it an apocalyptic wasteland. I'm glad that scenario feels farther off then it did when I was a child, but please. As long as the impediment to such a scenario is human discretion and human virtue, our ticket is close to being punched.
Egyptians might be some of the first graffiti artists in history with their famous hieroglyphics and carvings found everywhere on ancient Egyptian tombs, but this new wave of art is different. Graffiti in Cairo today is dominated by anti-Mubarak messages on city walls, military tanks, and smartly-written signs carried by frustrated people, and it is taking over the streets and being used to protest against the current government. ...
The tanks of the military are being used as billboards for graffiti. The clean, yellowish vehicles are now spotted with slogans cursing the current president, asking him to leave the Egyptian people alone, or asking for the support of the army. The f-word was used prominently on one tank and followed by the name of Mubarak; the officers didn’t seem to mind. Everyday people have been standing next to the tanks, or even on the vehicles, and often posing for photos. Sometimes they even ask the officers to take photographs with them.
Over the weekend we came up with the idea of a speak-to-tweet service—the ability for anyone to tweet using just a voice connection.
We worked with a small team of engineers from Twitter, Google and SayNow, a company we acquired last week, to make this idea a reality. It’s already live and anyone can tweet by simply leaving a voicemail on one of these international phone numbers (+16504194196 or +390662207294 or +97316199855) and the service will instantly tweet the message using the hashtag #egypt. No Internet connection is required. People can listen to the messages by dialing the same phone numbers or going to twitter.com/speak2tweet.
With Noor's disconnection which follows the disconnection of all the other ISPs in the country, Egypt becomes the first country to be completely shut off from the rest the web by its regime in the history of internet.
Blumenthal corrects Nate Silver, who wrote that "Egyptian popular opinion toward the United States has substantially improved over the course of the past 2 to 3 years":
Silver may have overlooked a footnote in the report he linked to explaining that the BBC sampled only urban areas of Egypt -- specifically Alexandria, Cairo, Giza and Shoubra al-Khaima -- that represent only 22 percent of the total national adult population.
More importantly, a more comprehensive survey of Egypt last year produced a very different result. The Global Attitudes Project conducted by the Pew Research Center conducts an annual, in-person survey that samples all but 2 percent of the population (it excluded smaller "Frontier governorates for security reasons"). That survey finds a very different pattern: The favorability rating of the United States among Egyptians has fallen sharply, from 30 percent in 2006 to 17 percent last last year.
The people I talked to mostly insisted that the army would never open fire on civilians. I hope they're right. To me, the scene here is eerily like that of Tiananmen Square in the first week or so after martial law was declared on May 20, 1989, when soldiers and citizens cooperated closely. But then the Chinese government issued live ammunition and ordered troops to open fire, and on the night of June 3 to 4, they did - and the result was a massacre.
In the past, the army famously refused President Sadat’s order to crack down on bread riots, and maybe they won’t crack down this time.
But I’ve seen this kind of scenario unfolding before in Indonesia, South Korea, Mongolia, Thailand, Taiwan and China, and the truth is that sometimes troops open fire and sometimes they don’t. As far as I can see, Mubarak’s only chance to stay in power is a violent crackdown – otherwise, he has zero chance of remaining president. And he’s a stubborn old guy: he may well choose to crack heads; of course, whether the army would follow orders to do so is very uncertain. The army is one of the few highly regarded institutions in Egyptian society, and massacres would end that forever.
2048 GMT: The Obama Administration has reportedly despatched Frank G. Wisner a former Ambassador to Egypt, to Cairo for talks with the regime.
2045 GMT: Vice President Omar Suleiman has said that President Hosni Mubarak entrusted him to begin talks with all political factions. Suleiman also said the government will announce several political reforms within days, with the priorities of fighting unemployment and abolishing corruption.
Omar Suleiman's offer of dialogue with other political parties is being dismissed as window dressing .... The consensus seems to be that Suleiman's appearance was intended for US consumption.
(Photo: From left, Hosni Mubarak, Omar Suleiman and Sami Enan at Egypt's military HQ in Cairo. AFP/Getty Images)
Robert P. Baird looks into talks of an uprising in Uganda:
If the cases of Tunisia and Egypt prove any general rule, it may be that the U.S. is no longer interested or able to protect its autocratic client states at any cost. The Ugandans I’ve spoken to have confessed themselves more resigned than angry at the thought of Museveni’s inevitable reelection, and the prospect of a country-wide popular uprising seems, for the moment, very unlikely. But as Steve Randy Waldman wrote on Twitter yesterday, “Egypt is eroding the inevitability of the status quo, there and everywhere.”
2010 GMT: Protesters in Tahrir Square in Cairo have reportedly set up four large screens showing broadcasts of Al Jazeera and Al Jazeera Live, apparently bypassing the Egyptian Government's attempt to block the services.
10:57pm One of our web producers on the ground in Cairo heard a protester named Hamza speaking to the crowd gathered at Tahrir Square say, "Long live Al Jazeera ... the Arab world is watching Egypt".
Last week Conor asked for your thoughts on Rand Paul's proposed budget cuts. The most common criticism:
Defense gets a 6.5% cut, and education 83%? Can I be reading this right? Education gets the largest single cut? (other than Energy, which goes to Defense, for some reason). How can this be justified? We'll have a balanced budget on the backs of our uneducated children?
Another reader goes into more detail:
I’ll pick on Rand Paul and his slashing of the education budget. I’ve worked in business for a long time now in many different financially declining environments. So, I’ve seen many attempts to stabilize these declines through expense control. There’s a point when expense control deepens to the point of cost cutting. Once that happens, I have not been with a business that has not recovered without declaring bankruptcy or folding. You can’t cut your way to growth. And growth is the only thing that will get you out of a financial decline. The difference between expense control and cost cutting is that expense control looks to eliminate costs everywhere that they do not fund an operation that contributes to growth, but leaves intact all those areas that do foster growth. The trick, of course, and what makes a senior management team a good one, is being able to identify the difference. Rand Paul clearly cannot identify the difference.
Commission on Fine Arts? No contribution to growth. Education? 83% cut? Really?! Might as well cut off all our legs below our knees. If we do not IMPROVE education we will NOT achieve growth as a nation. The ‘internationalization’ of business has allowed businesses to tap into a worldwide pool of employees whose educations now surpass that of Americans, at far less cost. This is where the President’s message about the future rings true to me. If we want to maintain our standard of living here we have to justify the higher average salaries we hold vs most of the rest of the world. If we aren’t making things for less, then we have to be making better things. We have to be on the forefront of new industry to justify business paying more to have it done by Americans. And the only way to remain on the forefront of new industry is to invest in education.
Another:
I'm all for some tough love on the deficit, but no Consumer Product Safety Commission and instead rely on Consumer Reports? I love Consumer Reports, but this is a totally bourgeois view of things. By and large, the working poor and lower middle class do not read Consumer Reports, cannot afford Consumer Reports and may not even know what it is. One of the silent ways that the U.S. standard of living has increased in the last 40 years is "safety creep" in everything from car seats to drills to ovens (not to mention NHTSA's car work, most stark of all). Yeah, it has an air of paternalism, but this is paternalism that is universally publicly favored - see, e.g., rush to hysteria on Chinese drywall or e-coli lettuce. Plus, this is essentially regressive vs. the poor and the young.
Another reader:
Just like to point out that the suggestion that DOD take over the nuclear function from DOE is illegal. Nukes are to be administered by civilians, that's the law, Truman's Atomic Energy act of 1946.
Another reader:
What struck me most about the Rand Paul’s budget proposals were the extremely deep cuts to the National Science Foundation (62% !?). This is in addition to significant cuts to the National Institute of Health, the Centers for Disease Control, abolition of the Department of Energy. The Rand Paul budget would be a devastating blow to the sciences in the United States of America.
What is striking (and some of this may be due to omissions in the Washington Examiner article) are the choices of things that are not touched: Agriculture subsidies (direct farm payments are about $20B annually versus $7B for the entire NSF budgets), subsidies for oil, gas or coal, etc. These are things that Paul apparently feels are more important ways to spend money than basic sciences.
I am not sure what Paul was thinking when making these choices. My hypotheses (based on conversations from a few self-identified libertarians and Paul fans)
(1) Basic science will be funded by the private sector if it is not funded by the government.
(2) Basic science when funded by the government is a form of largesse, corrupting the recipients, who invariably tow “the government line”. We will be better off without it.
(3) Basic science is not important. At least not as important as continuing direct farm payouts. Especially since Paul’s budget was a publicity stunt thrown together in a couple of days and will never be enacted.
Possibility 1 strikes me as a pipe dream- there is no good economic model for basic sciences. If there is a thriving scientific culture somewhere in the world where the private sector funds most basic research, please point me to it. I wouldn’t be surprised if Paul thinks we can roll things back to how things worked in the 18th and 19th centuries.
Possibility 2, which I have actually heard expressed (usually in the context of global warming or health research), is a form of elite bashing which might play well with some tiny segment of Paul’s base. But honestly, I’m not sure how many people really get excited about sticking it to the scientists.
As for possibility 3, I’ll let you make up your mind about that.
Another reader:
I will at least give Paul credit for being honest about what they think is important and what's not. Some things seem pretty reasonable such as:
Selling Federal buildings
Reducing government travel (depending on what's really being cut there)
Defense cuts
However, I do see a number of flaws. First of all, a lot of what he's doing is shuffling things around. Does moving Department of Energy responsibilities under the Department of Defense make sense? Does moving the Coast Guard under Department of Defense make sense given that the majority of the Coast Guard's purpose is law enforcement, search and rescue, etc? Generally speaking departments are more accountable and effective when they aren't submerged in a larger bureaucracy (Homeland Security anybody?)
Furthermore, it seems that a lot of what he cuts would ultimately fall on states to handle. That actually makes many of these functions more expensive in aggregate because each state would have to have it's own bureaucracy and raise taxes to cover that. Examples include cutting education spending, and converting some national parks into state parks.
Another reader:
I took a look at the summary and the associated description. Obviously, with any plan of this type, there will be objections to nearly every item. I want to comment on just a few:
1. In general—pretty clearly, the Paul plan would result in thousands of lost jobs, both at the Federal government level and in the private sector businesses that receive funding that would be cut. The savings Paul envisions are, to some extent, offset by the loss of tax revenue and the increased cost of unemployment benefits, etc. That’s not necessarily a reason to not realize cost savings in the Federal budget, but it may speak to the timing. Do we really want to be increasing the unemployment rolls in a period of high unemployment? Just as “moderate” Republicans in 2009-2010 argued that health care reform should, perhaps, wait until the economy improved, perhaps budget cutting and the resulting job losses should wait until the employment figures are better. In any event, the savings Paul claims must be discounted for the increased loss of revenue/cost.
2. Judicial Branch—An annoying characteristic of Paul’s work is that he argues for a budget reduction—in this case,$2.4B (32% of the existing budget), without explaining how he would realize this savings. Will he cut out judgeships (even though there appears to be near-universal agreement that more sitting judges are required)? Where is the fat? His only attempt at an explanation is to note that, since 2001 the budget in this area has grown more than 30% faster than the rate of inflation, without offering any explanation as to why that might be. Here’s a possible explanation—more security.
3. Food Stamp Program—Rand proposes to take this back to the 2008 level. He appears to believe that this can be done by eliminated fraud and waste (which seems to be his basis for a lot of his proposed reductions). I suspect that there are more people eligible now for food stamps than there were in 2008, in part because of simple growth in the population and in part because of the tanking of the economy. No acknowledgement by Paul of the human cost of such a cutback; in fact, he seems to think that poor people only use food stamps to buy unhealthy food, anyway.
4. Food and Drug Administration—a proposed 62% cut! This will, in effect, gut the FDA. That’s alright with Paul, since he views the FDA’s actions as government “intrusion into the nation’s food supply.” I view it as government protection of the public from unsafe food and drugs. In a similar vein, Paul wants to get rid entirely of the Consumer Product Safety Commission, which oversees product safety; thanks but no thanks.
5. Paul proposes similar cuts to the Center For Disease Control and Prevention, National Science Foundation and the NIH—he’ll find “savings” and, with respect to the NIH and NSF, he will reduce Federal grants. Paul says that scientific research should be done by private industry and/or by states, and believes that there is no role to be played here by the Federal Government. I’m pretty sure that he is dead wrong about this, but I would be interested in hearing from others examples of where Federally-funded research was essential.
6.Government Services Administration—not a big deal, but Paul proposes to cut this budget by 85% ($1.9B), believing that each agency can provide its own services. Obviously, Rand’s experience with large organizations is very limited; forcing the dozens of agencies to each have their own capacity to deal with real estate and the other services currently provided by GSA is incredibly duplicative and, therefore, incredibly inefficient and costly. The GSA exists precisely to avoid this sort of expense. This item really calls into question Paul’s credibility and the reliability of his other savings projections. I wonder if he and his team really have any idea what they’re doing here.
7. Finally, Paul believes that the Federal Vehicle Budget can be reduced by $600 Million, just by telling agencies to “slow down” their new vehicle acquisitions and decrease the miles they drive the vehicles. Sounds simple. But Paul give no indication as to whether this is a real number and, if so, how it was determined. Is he guessing? Does he have some analysis to back up this number? For that matter, do any of his numbers have any analytical basis or is he talking through his hat?
Another:
Where to begin? This plan is every bit as political as the one released by the Republican Study Group and could only have come from someone who has no idea what he is talking about when it comes to government programs. I could point out that it is the antithesis of the technological vision that the President has laid out, but that would be beside the point, wouldn't it? I could also point out that neither ethanol or other farm subsidies appear to have been touched but, again, what would we expect from a Republican?
I'll just focus on the federal department I know most about, HUD, which is completely eliminated in Paul's plan. Who takes these hits?
Seniors -- whose low-income housing through Section 202 programs is eliminated. Find it distasteful to see a young homeless man sleeping on a park bench? Wait till it's Grandma there!
The Disabled -- whose Section 811 housing is eliminated.
The poor -- who lose BOTH Section 8 vouchers and facility-based housing programs.
Brownfields, Enterprise Zone and other economic development efforts that enable private developers to reclaim urban areas laid waste by previous business and manufacturing efforts. (These could be considered corporate welfare, except that most of the culprits have already left the scene.)
Now I realize that in Rand Paul's libertarian utopia the consequences don't matter. People should just take care of themselves, even poor, disabled seniors. Since shifting these burdens to the states is out of the question in this climate, people will just have to live (or die) with the consequences of their own decisions to grow old, become disabled or slide into poverty.
We don't have to imagine; we know what this looks like. We have pictures from the Depression.
A final reader:
My initial reaction to Sen. Rand Paul's spending bill was shock. I saw immediately that he proposed to eliminate both the Section 8 Vouchers and the Affordable Housing Program. I work in the affordable housing industry, and the thought, that with the passage of a single bill, both the Section 8 program (which is a small part of my business) and the Affordable Housing Program (Including LIHTC, which is my entire business) left me upset and terrified. The idea that my somewhat comfortable lifestyle could be disrupted by unemployment so suddenly spurred a rather uncomfortable reaction.
Further reflection, however, has tempered my immediate reaction. A fiscal conservative by nature, I began to wonder if there wasn't something larger that I was missing in Sen. Paul's proposal. If we want to get spending under control, jobs are going to be lost. Some of these will be just and natural trimming, while others will be unfortunate casualties of our current situation. Regardless of what category I put myself in, or others put my position in, what is truly at stake? If the bill were to pass, would I complain about the horrifying prospect of finding another job, and take my anger out in the next election cycle? Or would my principals hold, and would I have the wisdom and the courage to recognize that my loss, though personally difficult, served a greater good?
I come from an often maligned generation (X, to be exact), that has not really had to sacrifice much in the way that our grandfathers and grandmothers did. Perhaps it is our time.
"The presence of the army in the streets is for your sake and to ensure your safety and wellbeing. The armed forces will not resort to use of force against our great people," the army statement said.
"Your armed forces, who are aware of the legitimacy of your demands and are keen to assume their responsibility in protecting the nation and the citizens, affirms that freedom of expression through peaceful means is guaranteed to everybody."
It urged people not resort to acts of sabotage that violate security and destroy public and private property. It warned that it would not allow outlaws and to loot, attack and "terrorise citizens".
Matt Steinglass compares America's relationship with Egypt to its relationship with Iran:
Our position today is in some ways less like our position during the Green Revolution in Iran than it is like Mikhail Gorbachev's position during the Velvet Revolution in Czechoslovakia, or perhaps like John F. Kennedy's position in South Vietnam in 1963, when a signal that America would be receptive to a change of leadership quickly led to the coup that ousted Ngo Dinh Diem.
That's not to say that Mr Obama should openly demand that Mr Mubarak step down.
That coup in South Vietnam didn't work out so well, and from the perspective of most Russians today, Mr Gorbachev's actions in Eastern Europe in 1989 were disastrous for Russian interests. Mohammed ElBaradei may proclaim that a post-Mubarak Egypt will be democratic and secular, but Mohammed ElBaradei is a retired United Nations official; there is no organised movement pledging fealty to him. He looks very much like a Kerensky figure, the sort of well-known educated liberal internationalist who appears initially popular at the beginning of a revolution and is appealing to foreigners, but who is soon swept aside once the battle for power descends to the streets.
(Photo: Egyptian demonstrators gather at dusk in Tahrir Square in Cairo on January 31, 2011, on the seventh day of protests against long term President Hosni Mubarak. By Mohammed Abed/AFP/Getty Images)
Jonathan Chait skewers George Will's latest column bashing electric car subsidies:
There is, on the surface, a basic economic logic here. In general, the government should not rig the market to subsidize product A over product B. However, if product B creates the negative externality of emitting massive amounts of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere, then you have a compelling reason to rig that market, one that any economist would grasp. ...
The problem is that Will thinks climate science is a giant hoax. And obviously if you think carbon emissions are harmless, then you won't support any program to mitigate them, because even a dollar spent to reduce climate change is a dollar wasted. So, when Will is instructing his readers to oppose this or that carbon-reduction program, perhaps he should note his scientific premises.
Andrew Romano rehashes all the money lines from Palin's speech on Saturday night to the Safari Club International:
She mentions how some media figures have pledged not cover her at all in February, and says the boycott "sounds good" to her: "because there's a lot of chaos in Cairo, and I can't wait to not get blamed for it--at least for a month."
She even cites her children's Christian names as evidence of her outdoorswoman cred. "Piper was named after Todd's airplane, the Piper cub, which gets us to the hunting grounds," she explains. "Bristol, Bristol Bay fishing grounds. Willow, a local sport-fishing stream. Trig, I pull the TRIG-ger. Track... I remember when we told my dad that his grandson was named Track, he said, 'Like TRACKing an elephant?'"
David Frum is reading the Inquiry Commission's report:
It’s an article of faith among conservatives that the fundamental cause of the crisis was excess lending to poor people and minorities. It’s equally an article of faith among liberals that the lending had little if anything to do with the crisis. The conservative view faces 2 powerful counter-arguments: (1) after the year 2000, the real driver of subprime lending was the non-bank sector, not subject to the CRA; and (2) the subprime market was just too small to tank the US financial sector. Sub-prime lending only became a threat when sub-prime loans were packaged into derivatives. The CRA did not require anyone to do that.
But the liberal view also faces a counter-argument: Sub-prime loans were the stuff of which the toxic derivatives were made, and it was not some idle whim or fancy of the bankers that led to the proliferation of sub-prime loans. For example, it was the pressure of the CRA that led to the invention of the concept of the “credit score” so as to diminish the discretion of lending institutions. Credit scores in turn became a driver of the expansion of credit to ever less creditworthy borrowers.
There is a sound critique of CRA, Fannie Mae, and Freddie Mac. But the notion that the financial crisis was mostly due to government forcing banks to offer loans to poor minorities is insulting and absurd. Without getting into a long complicated post, numerous companies made many billions of dollars off the US mortgage industry. We're supposed to believe they would've passed on that opportunity absent federal pressure? If politicos want to get government out of the housing business they should take a look at the mortgage interest deducation, the perverse incentives of which continue to this day.
Beinart asks for Obama "to stop insulating Mubarak and Mahmoud Abbas from a reckoning with their own people":
Middle Eastern tyrannies aren’t falling the way George W. Bush predicted. America isn’t the hammer; if anything, we’re the anvil. But Bush’s argument that Middle Eastern democracy could help drain the ideological swamp in which al Qaeda grew may yet be proved true. Osama bin Laden has never looked more irrelevant than he does this week, as tens of thousands march across the Middle East not for jihad, but for democracy, electricity, and a decent job. It’s a time for hope, not fear. America can survive having less control, as long as the Arab people have more.
(Photo: An Egyptian army Captain identified as Ihab Fathi holds the national flag while being carried by demonstrators during a protest in Tahrir Square in Cairo on January 31, 2011, on the seventh day of mass protests calling for the removal of President Hosni Mubarak. By Marco Longari/AFP/Getty Images)
Given calls to end US foreign aid to Egypt, Philip Giraldi suggests taking a closer look at all our spending abroad:
There has been curiously little coverage of Senator Rand Paul’s recent comments regarding foreign aid. Appearing with Wolf Blitzer on Wednesday night, he called for an end to foreign aid and, when challenged by Blitzer, twice confirmed that he would include Israel. That a United States Senator would call for eliminating aid to Israel is astonishing given the general consensus prevailing in Congress that the assistance is sacrosanct.
And considering that Israel is one of the wealthiest countries in the world (with a per capita income at the same level as Great Britain) and is alleged to be going through an economic boom, there is little justification for continuing the largesse, which is largely driven by domestic politics in any event. The argument that Israel needs the money to maintain its military edge is also a red herring as Tel Aviv currently enjoys complete military superiority in all areas over all of its potential opponents. It also has the Middle East’s only nuclear arsenal.
For his audacity, Senator Paul has been attacked by the Israel Lobby and by both Democrats and Republicans. Now that the Obama Administration is considering withholding the $2 billion that Egypt receives annually, a sum granted in 1979 when Sadat abandoned the Palestinians and signed a peace treaty with Israel, it would perhaps be a good opportunity to reexamine all US aid to the region.
It would be a good time to re-examine aid flowing to every region, which isn't to say that I want to eliminate all of it.
Politico is reporting that Jon Huntsman, the U.S. Ambassador to China, will run for the GOP nomination. Larison - along with the restof theinternet - is befuddled:
What intrigues me about Huntsman’s campaign is that it seems to make no sense at all.
Something else I find interesting about it is that he will be the only 2012 candidate who has been elected to office and possesses foreign policy experience. His presence in the primary field will draw attention to the lack of experience that all of the others have, and it will make the attempts of Romney, Pawlenty and Thune, among others, to claim expertise in foreign policy seem even more ridiculous than they already do. It can’t help the eventual GOP nominee that Huntsman will have been pointing out his lack of qualifications on national security and foreign policy in debate after debate. Then again, Huntsman can’t be a particularly effective critic of Obama’s foreign policy as someone who was responsible for advancing the administration’s China policy, which neutralizes the one clear advantage he has over the others.
Moody's has downgraded Egypt's debt. Douglas McIntyre watches the markets:
The situation in Egypt is not like those of Greece or Ireland, but the outcome for investors could be similar. Greece's problem was a balance sheet issue. Egypt's is one of political stability. Either way, large international investors make similar calculations. Interest rates on Egypt's debt may swing wildly, which gives money managers plenty of volatility to make profits.
Money does not care about distress no matter who the victims or winners may be. Business is business, not personal, even if "personal" is the fate of an entire country.
(Photo: Emirati men sit under a stock market screen at Dubai Financial Market, on January 30, 2011 as stock markets in several Gulf countries, where many leading firms have interests in Egypt, dropped on mounting concerns. By Karim Sahib/AFP/Getty Images)
The [Muslim Brotherhood (MB)] supports Hamas and other terrorist groups, makes friendly noises to Iranian dictators and torturers, would be uncertain landlords of the critical Suez Canal, and opposes the Egyptian-Israeli agreement of 1979, widely regarded as the foundation of peace in the Mideast. Above all, the MB would endanger counterterrorism efforts in the region and worldwide. That is a very big deal.
The Muslim Brotherhood might not end up in power; just as in Pakistan, the Islamists in Egypt represent only a minority of citizens. Which is not to say that the Brotherhood couldn't wind up in power, but it's too early to call the rise of the Brotherhood inevitable. If the Brothers do end up in power, then the Israeli-Egyptian peace treaty, which is responsible for 30 years of stability in the eastern Mediterranean, would be in mortal danger, but even if Egypt were to break relations with Israel, this does not mean that war would necessarily follow. And what is more likely is that the Egyptian Army continues to play an important and stabilizing role, and the Egyptian Army, of course, depends on the United States for much of its budget, and it does not want to lose access to American-made weapons systems, which is what might happen if Egypt were to abrogate the peace treaty.
Claims are circulating, citing Al Jazeera and Al Arabiya, that the Egyptian military has issued a statement saying it recognises protesters' demands as "legitimate" and it will not shoot upon protesters.
As always it's worth taking this sort of news with a large pinch of salt. And wait and see what actually happens.
Along the same lines, Max Fisher relays Ashraf Khalil's worries:
Even on Friday evening, when army tanks first deployed in the streets of Cairo, there were already scattered signs of friction. That night, I witnessed protesters openly berating and shoving soldiers -- who once again showed impressive patience. A few protesters behaved so aggressively toward the soldiers, without achieving a reaction, that I could only conclude the soldiers were under direct orders not to retaliate. But the longer the military is deployed in the streets, surrounded by hothead protesters, the greater the chances of the situation spiraling out of control.
Egyptian popular opinion toward the United States has substantially improved over the course of the past 2 to 3 years, to the point that a new leader would probably not gain any points by expressing anti-American sentiment.
Also of note:
Who doesn’t the Egyptian public like? Israel. In the 2010 poll, just 3 percent of Egyptians had a positive opinion about it versus 92 percent unfavorable; these were the worst grades for Israel of any country included in the survey.
Earnest as many Tea Partiers are in wanting a smaller, less intrusive government, it's going to be difficult to take their movement seriously if they keep insisting that the Republican Party is the only choice for liberty-minded individuals, as this CNET story shows:
The House Republicans’ first major technology initiative is about to be unveiled: a push to force Internet companies to keep track of what their users are doing. A House panel chaired by Rep. F. James Sensenbrenner of Wisconsin is scheduled to hold a hearing tomorrow morning to discuss forcing Internet providers, and perhaps Web companies as well, to store records of their users’ activities for later review by police.
One focus will be on reviving a dormant proposal for data retention that would require companies to store Internet Protocol (IP) addresses for two years, CNET has learned. Tomorrow’s data retention hearing is juxtaposed against the recent trend to protect Internet users’ privacy by storing less data. Last month, the Federal Trade Commission called for “limited retention” of user data on privacy grounds, and in the last 24 hours, both Mozilla and Google have announced do-not-track technology.
Via Glenn Reynolds, who notes, "They call it the stupid party for a reason." With President Obama continuing his awful record on civil liberties – without much objection from elected Democratic officials – and the GOP reminding us why liberty-minded people loathed their prior stint running Congress, there's basically nowhere left for libertarians to turn. I don't begrudge anyone for thinking they're better off aligning with the Republicans or the Democrats. But I can't stand folks who pretend that advocates of overweening government are all on one side, or that the right thing to do at the ballot box is obvious.
Joe Klein argues if not for Egypt this story would be front-page news. He summarizes:
The losses at Kabul Bank, first reported to be several hundred million in the Times last summer, are actually in the neighborhood of $900 million. Apparently, the bank directors--perhaps including Hamid Karzai's brother Mahmoud--took a substantial portion of the assets, leveraged them and invested in Dubai real estate, which promptly crashed. The Afghan government does most of its business through Kabul Bank; if it fails, the government won't be able to pay its civil servants--and a fair amount of international aid, deposited in the bank, may be washed out as well.
The question now is: bail out Kabul Bank or let the Karzai government collapse? The answer, I think, is bail out Kabul Bank, but only if Karzai steps aside in favor of Abdullah Abdullah, who finished second in the rigged presidential election--or a respected technocrat like Ashraf Ghani, who could lead a caretaker government until new elections are held.
Nine years into the American-led war, it’s no longer enough to say that corruption permeates the Afghan state. Corruption, by and large, is the Afghan state. On many days, it appears to exist for no other purpose than to enrich itself. Graft infests nearly every interaction between the Afghan state and its citizens, from the police officers who demand afghani notes to let cars pass through checkpoints to the members of Karzai’s government who were given land in the once empty quarter of Sherpur, now a neighborhood of grandiose splendor, where homes sell for hundreds of thousands of dollars. Bribes feed bribes: if an Afghan aspires to be a district police officer, he must often pay a significant amount, around fifty thousand dollars, to his boss, who is often the provincial police chief. He needs to earn back the money; hence the shakedown of ordinary Afghans. In this way, the Afghan government does not so much serve the people as it preys on them.
I was in a bike crash last summer that put me face-first into the pavement at 20 mph. I lost four teeth, broke my neck and that little bone in my throat (the hyoid), and nearly had my lower lip ripped off. I could have been killed or paralyzed, but wasn't, and recovered well. The hospital bill was in excess of $35k and included emergency facial surgery, where my lip was sewn back onto the base of my gums and asphalt fragments were scraped out of my lower jaw (yikes, that was the worst!). My insurance paid 90% of it, since I have a solid benefits plan through my well-funded startup company.
Now there was the matter of those four teeth.
I first had to wait until the swelling went down, the sutures were removed, and my gums were healed. Then one of my several dentists cut into the scarred gum tissue, applied a bone graft, and put more sutures in the same tissue. As you might guess, my dental insurance (Delta Dental) will hardly cover anything - about 10% of an amount nearly the same as my hospital bill. I only get that much because my care will span two years, so I can claim the annual maximum coverage twice.
My story is about a single accident, not a disease of the teeth or gums that might have wider implications for health. It's about essentially the same small area of flesh and bone being cut into by two sets of doctors, one of whose costs can be insured against and another whose have to be borne directly. According to one of my several dentists, it's basically pointless to argue with a health insurer about a case like mine. Whether they paid for those first sutures in my broken face or not, if teeth are involved, the second set of sutures are not insured. He's heard of only one patient winning partial reimbursement from a health insurer, after years of trying.
I'm lucky: I had good insurance, a good job, a supportive family. But not having an option for catastrophic dental coverage wiped out my savings. If I were unlucky, it could have completely thrown my life off course.
A protestor with an eye bandage saying 'Go Mubarak' in Arabic stands in Tahrir Square on January 31, 2011 in Cairo, Egypt. By Peter Macdiarmid/Getty Images.
Kathryn Joyce reminds us it happens to adults too:
Adult victims could comprise up to 25% of all clergy abuse cases, estimates David Clohessy, National Director of [the Survivors’ Network of those Abused by Priests], but often face considerable skepticism about their stories. “In the eyes of the law, victims like [Katia] Birge are adults. But that doesn’t mean that emotionally, psychologically, in the presence of a trusted, powerful, charismatic clergy person, that in fact they can function like adults.” Considering the abundant ethical and legal prohibitions against doctors or therapists having even consensual sex with patients, in recognition of coercive power imbalances in play, Clohessy notes, “none of us have been raised from birth to think that a therapist is God’s representative or that a doctor can get me into heaven.”
Joyce connects Birge's case to a larger issue:
[The accused Juan Carlos] Hernandez was just one of an increasing number of lay ministers and volunteers assuming formerly clerical roles in the Catholic Church, particularly in heavily Latino parishes, such as Denver’s. Facing a general shortage of priests, and a critical lack of ordained staff equipped to serve Spanish-speaking communities, a papal dictate was issued in 2003, calling for an expanded role for laity in the church’s ministry.
Brian Ulrich tries to gauge the motives of military leaders, who met with Mubarak yesterday:
Opposition leaders led by Muhammad el-Baradei have also expressed a desire to negotiate with the military. What is happening within it? Publicly they have sided with the demonstrators, using force mainly to try and bring order by rounding up looters, as just reported a few seconds ago by al-Jazeera English from Alexandria. They may be hoping that if their credibility increases, they can work a transition to the military-friendly Omar Suleiman rather than risk the unknowns of a non-NDP government following a successful revolution.
He later adds, "the more I think about this, the more I suspect the military leadership is seizing the opportunity to install Omar Suleiman now and forestall the possibility of a Gamal Mubarak presidency." Earlier thoughts by Noah Millman here.
(Photo: Egyptian army soldiers take position in front of the Giza pyramids in Cairo on January 31, 2011 as protesters called for an indefinite strike in Egypt upping the stakes in their bid to topple President Hosni Mubarak's regime. By Marco Longari/AFP/Getty Images)
Thousands are still gathered in TSq, reiterating their demands for the departure of Mubarak. There's widespread dissatisfaction with the annucment of the cabinet and the proposed interior minister. Army is controlling the square and checking people's IDs at all entry points. When I asked why a soldier replied: "it's to keep the police out and make sure none of the escaped criminals get in." There are some police elsewhere jn Cairo, some traffic cops, but no state security police anywhere downtown that I can see.
(Photo: Protestors defy the curfew in Tahrir Square on January 31, 2011 in Cairo, Egypt. By Peter Macdiarmid/Getty Images.)
A California man is in jail on a terrorism charge after he was arrested in Dearborn for allegedly trying to blow up the biggest mosque in metro Detroit, Dearborn officials said today.The suspect was arrested in the parking lot of the Islamic Center of America in Dearborn on Monday, while hundreds were inside the mosque that sits along Ford Road, police said. He came to the city because of its large Arab-American and Muslim population, police said.
The suspect, Robert Stockham, is 63-years-old, and since he is a white American citizen, this is inevitably going to serve as a point of comparison: are there going to be calls from the usual suspects to deny him a trial in civilian courts?
An interesting detail from later in the story:
An employee at a local bar called police after overhearing violent threats allegedly made by the man, Islamic Center of America Executive Administrator Kassem Allie said. The employee was afraid that Stockham was going to target Muslims or Arabs in the area, he said.
So often in these stories, a violent act is ostensibly averted thanks to the stupidity of the alleged perpetrator and someone he interacts with calling the police.
He carried class-C fireworks -- called "consumer fireworks" by the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission, a police source said.
That's the type sold at stands around the Fourth of July, which is surprising. You'd have to have a hell of a lot of those fireworks to blow up a building. "It was a substantial quantity (of explosives), enough to do us harm," said Kassem Allie, 53, the executive administrator of the Islamic Center. It'll be interesting to see if the story is being hyped or if this guy ammassed a huge cache of consumer grade fireworks.
As journalists everywhere do their best to bone up on Egypt and cover a complicated story as it unfolds, writers at Andrew Breitbart's Web site Big Peace are publishing all kinds of irresponsible crazy:
We know that the Muslim Brotherhood supports the uprising in Egypt. The Obama administration does as well. Based on the release of a secret document, it’s been learned that the United States government supported the April 6 Youth Movement – a group that played a key role in the uprising – in the form of a summit in Washington, D.C. That summit took place from December 3-5, 2008. We also know that Bill Ayers and Bernandine Dohrn were in Cairo a little more than one year later, engaging in protests while attempting to show solidarity with Hamas by entering Gaza with Egyptian protesters.
...Conveniently or coincidentally, the actions – and now words courtesy of the once secret document – of the Obama administration, coupled with the actions and words of Bill Ayers indicate a desire on the part of both to usher in a new Islamic caliphate in the Middle East, assuming they’re not ignorant of the Brotherhood’s goal. What more evidence is needed to demonstrate that Islamism and Marxism are not strange bedfellows? They’re hand-in-glove bedfellows.
It should come as no surprise, then, that the hard left– aligned always with elements of the most radical Islamists against US interests– are joining the battle on the side of the Muslim Brotherhood. This repeats the pattern begun during the 1979 Iranian Revolution, as leftists like Michel Foucault serenaded Ayatollah Khomeini and the promise of a theocratic regime in that country. That a homosexual like Foucault would prefer the Shariah-adherent totalitarianism that was unleashed in Iran to the more pro-Western Shah is testament to the hard left’s fetishization of the post-colonial narrative: anything but America, and the more militantly anti-American, the more “legitimate.” Dinesh D’Souza argued, I believe convincingly, last year that Obama is similarly predisposed.
When Brietbart launched Big Peace, he wrote that "the site is pro-freedom, pro-liberty, and pro-American but will not be an outlet for false information or propaganda." So will he defend as plausible truth the notion that Obama desires the rise of a new Islamic caliphate in the Middle East? It would be nice if other conservatives who tout his Web properties would confront the disservice he does to his audience.
Ryan Singel explains how Russians avoided being killed by a suicide bomber:
An unexpected and unwanted text message from a wireless company prematurely exploded a would-be suicide bomber’s vest bomb in Russia New Year’s Eve, inadvertently thwarting a planned attack on revelers in Moscow, according to The Daily Telegraph.
The would-be suicide bomber was planning to detonate a suicide belt bomb near Red Square, a plan that was foiled when her wireless carrier sent her an SMS while she was still at a safe house, setting off the bomb and killing her. The message reportedly wished her a Happy New Years, according to the report, which sourced the info from security forces in Russia. Cell phones are often used as makeshift detonators by terrorist and insurgent groups.
It's been hard to see one of my favorites, Harper's Magazine, weathering rough waters as of late, in a standoff between the staff (now unionized) and publisher John "Rick" MacArthur. Megan's written about the saga, and I too hope they can pull through since their Readings (and Index and book reviews) are an indispensable part of my life. This farewell post by Ted Ross, the recently let-go editor, strikes a more personal chord about what it means to be out of work today:
I knew my father as the sort of person who put on a suit and disappeared to work every day. Work was a place where, when I visited him, people spoke to him with some modicum of respect. His job represented certainly not all but a fair amount of who he was. I knew him (and I still do) as a man who worked. Without thinking about it too much, I’ve always wanted my children to see me in the same way—presentable, respectable, necessary.
The WSJ gets a rare interview with the Syrian strongman:
Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, who inherited a regime that has held power for four decades, said he will push for more political reforms in his country, in a sign of how Egypt's violent revolt is forcing leaders across the region to rethink their approaches.
Would the left benefit if it had its own Fox News, its own talk radio, and more of its own bazooka-wielding talking heads inveighing on behalf of progressivism? Many Dish readers think so, including a lot of Keith Olbermann fans who are upset by his departure. It's a useful reminder that there are a lot of thoughtful people who don't share my taste in political discourse. I stand by my comments about the utility of angry rhetoric. But I want to acknowledge some sound points made by readers. It's true that segments on Fox News sometimes influence public discourse beyond that network's audience by influencing other media outlets and driving or influencing certain stories. The high volume of RINO hunters makes it seem as if the GOP has more folks on its right-wing than its center. And I've long thought that the conservative movement succeeds in spreading information that misleads the public – to cite one example, it scared the country into thinking it would be dangerous to house Gitmo detainees in a supermax prison. Some short term political victories are won that way.
The right and the left aren't mirrors of one another. The strengths and flaws of both sides are different, as are the people who make up the ideological coalitions. For this reason, I very much doubt that the left is capable of building its own talk radio empire or Fox style news channel even if it wanted to do so. But I want to explain at greater length why liberals shouldn't envy the right for its blowhards.
Alongside their benefits, let's examine the costs.
These are inseparable from the success of Fox News and Rush Limbaugh's status as the right's most popular entertainer. Foremost is the echo chamber effect: a bubble where the Iraq War was always going swimmingly, patriotism seemed to require support for torture, and the Bush Administration's domestic agenda never lacked for defenders happy to obscure the manifold ways that it violated even the principles of conservatism. The conservative media isn't wholly responsible for 8 years of Republican rule that left the right exceptionally unhappy. But it acted as a consistent enabler of policies that did long term damage to the country and brought about an electoral flameout that handed progressives their biggest opportunity in years.
Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck and friends have also succeeded in dumbing down the right's ideas. How could it be otherwise when they traffic in absurd conspiracy theories that many prominent conservatives are afraid to directly contradict? If you only trust right-leaning media sources – that is true of many conservatives – who is pushing back against the notion that Barack Obama is a Kenyan anti-colonialist, or that all liberals are power-hungry statists bent on spreading tyranny as their preferred end? Perhaps there are instances when these sorts of lies produce a short term political advantage. In the long run, it is never worth the extra distance put between the right and an accurate grasp of reality.
Do you still want your own Fox News, your own Rush Limbaugh? If the left resembled the right in that way, what would become of your next generation of young thinkers? Someone high up at MSNBC once told me that Ezra Klein was blacklisted from the network for a time because he criticized Keith Olbermann. Would it be better if that sort of thing happend more often? If there were more talking heads liberals never criticized for fear of losing TV spots and book deals? Or is it preferable that an honest guy like Chris Hayes is getting get hosting gigs at MSNBC, while writers like Adam Serwer at a progressive magazine like The American Prospect is free to speak his mind when he disagrees with an ideological ally? Is there anyone a writer at Tapped coul criticize that would result in as much of a backlash as when Rush Limbaugh or Mark Levin is criticized at The Corner? Do you wish there were?
If the left better resembled the right, surely Matthew Yglesias would've stayed at The Atlantic rather than going to the Center For American Progress in the alternative universe where the move included the intellectual strait-jacket The Heritage Foundation's bloggers wear. Would that have been good for liberals?
Or take Matthew Continetti, an exceptionally smart, talented young writer who has produced a book and many magazine articles that are to be admired. Due to the incentive system on the right, it made sense for him to write a book called "The Persecution of Sarah Palin." Is that a win for conservatives who want to advance smaller government or any other policy goal? Where I'm sitting, it seems like a waste for an ideological project when one of its best young writers labors over a book whose subject is a polarizing one-term governor's supposedly unique victimization. Do you think the left is capable of having the equivalent of Fox News and talk radio without ever ending up with its own Sarah Palin, and its own Matthew Continetti to squander precious time acting as her apologist?
The left has its own malign influences on public discourse. Some are rich and successful. It no more makes sense for liberals to envy the right it's talk radio hosts than it makes sense for the right to envy the left for Al Sharpton, Jeremiah Wright, or Michael Moore, which isn't to say these people are perfect analogues – they're certainly they're less influential among liberals than Limbaugh is among conservatives, and it would be wrong to draw a false equivalence. But these figures were successful in gathering followers and driving stories. In the realm of politics, the pathologies that came as part of the package still resulted in a net loss.
The antidote for Fox News isn't Keith Olbermann. It's Jon Stewart. It isn't a new left-leaning host who turns Glenn Beck-style destructive absurdity to different ideological ends – it's someone who effectively demosntrates the absudity of blowhards.
Cross-ideological envy does make sense sometimes. But I insist that everything would turn out a lot better for our country if we tried to emulate the best of what the other side has to offer – if the right envied The New York Times for its unparalleled news gathering operation and cultural influence, and tried to emulate it. Or if the left envied the right for the tranformative impact City Journal had on New York City's governance, or the Tea Party's impressive ability to get its members out to rallies to demonstrate its numbers, or the steadfastness of those evangelicals who refuse to compromise their deeply held principles even when pragmatically their battles are lost. Even if you object to these specific examples, one needn't agree with the other side to see its many admiral qualities.
But it's a lot easier to copy the other side's least attractive qualities, and imagine that when you've benefitted from the attendant power, everything will turn out better. That isn't how things work. And deep down most people know it.
Mackey flags a statement from protesters in Al-Masry Al-Youm, an Egyptian newspaper:
Tahrir Square protesters say they plan to march Friday to the presidential palace in Heliopolis unless the army makes its stance clear. Youth-led groups issued a statement calling for all Egyptians to march on the palace, the People's Assembly and the television building, in what they are calling the "Friday of Departure."
They say the army must choose which side they are on: That of the people, or the regime.
(Image: An Egyptian demonstrator takes part in a protest against President Hosni Mubarak's regime at Tahrir Square in Cairo on January 30, 2011. By Mohammed Abed/AFP/Getty Images)