YouCut Can’t Cut a $100 Billion?


I’m going to be honest. I never liked the Republican Pledge to America. It wasn’t much of a governing document and completely lacked the sort of boldness needed to give a new Republican Congress a real mandate to fix the massive problems facing the nation. But the argument at the time was one of deliverables. House Republicans wanted to promise less and deliver more. Or so they said.

One of their key pledges was to shed a mere $100 billion “in the first year alone” to return non-security discretionary spending to the FY 2008 levels. Unfortunately (or conveniently), they did not specify whether they were talking about fiscal year 2011 or 2012 as the first year. This distinction is relevant because the Democrats failed to complete the spending bills for the current fiscal year (2011), and passed a short-term continuing resolution to keep the government operating until March, leaving decisions to still be made for fiscal year 2011. House Leaders are saying that because the fiscal year is already four months in that the $100 billion should be construed as “an annualized” or “prorated” figure and only half should be done now. (The distinction about the number of months into the fiscal year is also not particularly meaningful—just because the money has been appropriated to the agencies doesn’t mean that it can’t be rescinded.)

Thankfully 89 members of the conservative Republican Study Committee are arguing that the “first year” means exactly that—the first year—and that “the first step in restoring the trust of the American people…is, simply, to do what we said we would do during the campaign.” The RSC wants the full $100 billion in cuts to be included on the final continuing resolution that completes the fiscal year 2011 appropriations process. House Leaders are balking, forcing the 89 Congressmen to write their leadership in protest.

Is there some room for interpretation as to what was intended by the “first year”? Sure. But more importantly, why are House Leaders nickel and diming the American taxpayer when we’re facing a $1.5 trillion budget deficit? Given the fiscal straits that we’re in as a country, why not demand that the $100 billion (as promised) is a down payment in FY 2011 and demand even more in FY 2012? That would be leadership.

This is what the old House Republican majority use to do all the time—make promises and then either back track or try to wiggle out of them by employing the fine art of legalese. This is not what we elected. Check here if your Congressmen was one of the 89 conservatives who signed the letter, and if not, call and urge them to stick to their campaign pledge to cut at least the full $100 billion now.

Crossposted at Heritage Action for America


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It isn't as easy as you think to cut funds this year

reddog53 Monday, January 31st at 2:40PM EST (link)

Since the federal government spending is either payments to individuals (social security, Medicare, etc) or block grants to states, or salaries to federal employees, this is hard to do quickly.

Cutting block grants to states increases unemployment and increases the deficit through lower taxes received. Cutting federal employees is a lengthy process that takes months–probably can’t get done by October, or just barely; limited actual savings.

Cuts to SSand Medicare also take a bit of planning.

What’s left is travel expenses, ooffice materials, utilities and other small discretionary cuts– 10% ‘across the board’ kinda stuff. Not much of a dent.

“‘What great cause would have been fought and won under the banner “I stand for consensus”?” — Lady Margaret Thatcher

Spending is easy in DC

altexas Monday, January 31st at 3:11PM EST (link)

Cutting spending may not be easy, I don’t care. It is not their money to spend and they have plenty of time to make it happen NOW.

If they can’t or will not, they will be out of a job soon enough.

 

Really?

mcrill Monday, January 31st at 4:11PM EST (link)

“Cutting block grants to states increases unemployment and increases the deficit through lower taxes received.”

Of course cutting grants does not increase the deficity - any taxes that are paid as a result of those programs are a minute fraction of the amount spent. There’s NO possible way that cutting them could actually increase the deficit - quite the contrary.

Barack Obama: Change, it’s all you’ll have left.

Why send money to the States?

altexas Monday, January 31st at 7:07PM EST (link)

The whole concept of the Federal Government sending money to the States is absurd. The Federal Government is a dependant body supported by the States or the People.

Cutting “block grants” would obviously be compensated by cutting taxes from those same States and people. This would elliminate the useless and overpaid middleman, the Federal Government.

10th Amendment

True!, but block grants were a way to do two things.

davesinsanantonio Tuesday, February 1st at 6:50AM EST (link)

The first was to get everyone used to paying a certain level of taxes. (This is like car dealers offering “rebates” when the prices of their cars was too high to move inventory. They didn’t dare to actually lower the price of the car because of the psychological impact that would have on buyers who had finally gotten over “sticker shock” at the prices of new cars.)
The second was to be able to force compliance by the states with certain federal mandates. No compliance, no block grants to that state. That is how we got and kept for so long the national 55mph speed limit. No state was willing to forego the so-called federal highway funds. It wasn’t until the states got together to push back that the “double-nicklel” was abandoned. So, if we want this to happen we also need to get the governors and state legislatures to make it clear to the Congress that these cuts had better happen (in actual federal spending–not in money coming to the states!)

 
 

You can argue that block grants are stupid

reddog53 Monday, January 31st at 9:48PM EST (link)

And I would agree.

However, grants like this pay for things like ‘more cops on the beat’ and ‘more teachers in classrooms.’. Eliminating the funds eliminates those jobs. Eliminating jobs affects others, so there are other jobs lost indirectly which lowers the taxes collected….teachers withoutnoncome buy less and so retailers sell less, etc.

It’s not exactly a one for one exchange, so it would affect both taxes and revenue when they are eliminated, especially if done rapidly.

“‘What great cause would have been fought and won under the banner “I stand for consensus”?” — Lady Margaret Thatcher

When they cut up your credit card, dog...

acat Monday, January 31st at 10:01PM EST (link)

ya gotta stop spending.

Even if it means eating whatever the last thing you bought was… Even if it means not eating….

The analogy is, of course, imperfect, but .. the problem with block grants that I see is that the money *should never have left the state* to begin with.

Those jobs? Should be paid for by state and local taxes. Every one.

If they were that important, they shouldn’t be left up to some remote bureaucrat, and if they really aren’t that important .. then …

For every one of your teachers and beat cops, I’ll bet you find the Feds paying for a dozen “administrators” working on Fed-mandated programs, and a dozen or so doughnut-eating guys doing make-work instead of actual policing… The money goes down union-guarded ratholes, not to honest civil servants who make a difference.

If the dislocations are really that severe, local government will, as *designed* by the *founders* step in.

Mew

Scope, No argument that the states should be paying this bill

reddog53 Monday, January 31st at 10:16PM EST (link)

But many aren’t currently, and wouldn’t have the funds immediately to continue –is my only point. Thus, some folks would be tossed out of jobs for which they are paying some state and federal taxes (not much, I grant, but it’s not zero…).

Most local governments aren’t any better off, so at the least, this would be pretty disruptive…..and before you hit “post’, I know that some disruption is what we’re after.

My only point is that it is somewhat easier and more effective to plan this out rather than just hatcheting around….Law of Unintended Consequences, etc.

“‘What great cause would have been fought and won under the banner “I stand for consensus”?” — Lady Margaret Thatcher

I'm not Scope... and I would point out that letting people "plan"...

acat Monday, January 31st at 11:12PM EST (link)

has its’ own set of unintended consequences, and quite a few intended consequences brought to you by your favourite lobbyists…

Yes, a short-term dislocation would suck, especially for the dislocated. My concern about letting politicians be buttonholed, lobbied, and otherwise “plan this out” is that they’ll try to be “clever” …

Mew

5555!!!!!

davesinsanantonio Tuesday, February 1st at 6:53AM EST (link)

nt

 
 
 
 
 
 

Spending a trillion sure hurts a heckuva lot more than cutting 100B. nt

Common_Cents Tuesday, February 1st at 6:18PM EST (link)

Leaders don’t create movements. Movements create leaders. Get involved. Your future depends on it.

Govt “invests” YOUR tax money for POLITICAL return rather than economic return.

 
 

$100 billion = $100 billion.

vamoose Monday, January 31st at 2:57PM EST (link)

‘House Leaders are saying that because the fiscal year is already four months in that the $100 billion should be construed as “an annualized” or “prorated” figure and only half should be done now.’

Hmmm. Last time I checked 4 months would be 1/3 of a year, not 1/2. I understand the argument. OTOH, the FY 2012 budget isn’t going to be passed on time either. Why perpetuate the prorated cuts into the next fiscal year? And in FY 2012 what’s to prevent them from prorating the cuts in that year? After all, we will be 3 or 4 months into FY 2012 before the budget gets passed. This could go on forever.

Exactly!!! We did not send them to Washington to

davesinsanantonio Tuesday, February 1st at 6:59AM EST (link)

weasel word their way out of things. I know the Republican establishment types (who will deny that that is what they are) are used to being weak-kneed wimps, but if they try to sell us this wussy nonsense they WILL be primaried! Everyone of them! Can they honestly believe that when they said a hundred billion that the voters will settle for fifty??? For any excuse??? They better get their heads screwed on straight, or they will get them handed to them in the primary!!!

 
 

Of course my rep

Scope Monday, January 31st at 3:13PM EST (link)

is not listed among the conservatives signing the letter. Eric Cantor is one of the ones that talks out of both sides of his mouth. He does not belong in leadership, period. He is a part of the problem, not the solution.

Ditto on the disappointment.....

tampaconservative Monday, January 31st at 6:27PM EST (link)

Congressman Gus Bilirakis…..where are you? Are you a true Conservative or just another self-serving Republuican who’s hoping we lost the game plan from last November?

How about standing up and being a leader for a change…..you have been there for four years now and most people reading this have never heard your name called.

We will remember your name in 2012…….

A Florida Constituent

I just sent my e-mail

momofthecastle Tuesday, February 1st at 6:05AM EST (link)

to Congressman Tom Rooney. Go and do likewise. They need to know we are watching.

 
 
 

Russ, Great Post, and Thanks for Heritage Action!

Ron Robinson Monday, January 31st at 3:31PM EST (link)

Personally, I’d like to see Rs commit to shaving more like 18+% of this year’s deficit off the budget which would be more like $200 billion. $100 billion isn’t even 10% of *this year’s* deficit.

I’d also like to see the Heritage Action web site award 500 or 1000 ‘personal impact’ points for becoming a precinct committeeman. Since PCs are so influential in settling party policy and activities, HA should be steering folks to PC service which greatly enhances a person’s personal impact (and is the only way we are going to effectively re-orient our party)

‘Course, if you know me, you knew I was going to say that! Thanks for the great post Russ, and visit us more often!

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Disappointed to see Daniel Webster...

uselogic Monday, January 31st at 3:56PM EST (link)

is not on the list. Guess we’ll have to remind him we didn’t eject Alan Grayson just so he (Webster) could be Democrat-lite.

I am happy to see Sandy Adams, from the next-door district, sign on.

 

Don't raise the debt ceiling..

jederrick Monday, January 31st at 4:13PM EST (link)

If we don’t raise it, we’ll get an immediate 40% reduction in federal spending..

I believe this is a good thing. We can then decide which programs we want to save and what we want to cut. Either way, 40% of the spending has to go..

 

If they don't want to cut it now.....

clement Monday, January 31st at 5:14PM EST (link)

How can I possibly have confidence that they will cut later?

 

Cowards

ghostship Monday, January 31st at 5:41PM EST (link)

Once again the Republican Party not only proves it nickname of “The Stupid Party” but that its also a Party of cowards.

If they’re too afraid to cut a measly 100 billion then they definitely too timid to BALANCE the budget and REDUCE the size of government.

Sometimes I really, really HATE that my only choices are the D’s or the R’s.

 

To those who say it's "too hard" to cut the deficit this year

KC Monday, January 31st at 5:54PM EST (link)

$100 Billion is roughly 2% of this year’s total spending and a mere one-fifteenth of the projected FY deficit. That’s pocket change in the grand scheme of things.

If Republicans can’t find $100B to chop out of the next eight month’s spending, then we are in deep do-do going forward.

Boehner should come out and drop the hammer HARD so as to signal he is serious about controlling spending, and set the right tone for the next two years.

Boehner is addicted to spending just like Hollywood is addicted to Cocane.

ihateliberals Tuesday, February 1st at 5:21PM EST (link)

you can’t trust a RINO. You never know what side they are on. you may believe what people say but you will always believe what they do and so far Boehner isn’t doing much but caving to the Democrats.

 
 

reluctant because lying

leftwing Monday, January 31st at 9:27PM EST (link)

With all due respect guys, the promise was a lie.

It is possible to cut $100 billion. I think it is a bad idea. You think it is a good idea. That is an honest disagreement.

But the campaign rhetoric was about cutting $100 billion of waste, fraud and abuse. In other words, it will be easy. It won’t matter.

It will matter.

That is why the Repub leadership wants to hide from this promise.

Pay less taxes, reduce the deficit.

What is missing from those happy thoughts?

G'bye (nt)

Neil Stevens Monday, January 31st at 9:36PM EST (link)

Unlikely Voter: Poll Analysis, Election Projection.

 
 

Paul Ryan holding a telephone town hall

LisaDe Monday, January 31st at 9:47PM EST (link)

Tommorrow — Tuesday, February 1st at 8 p.m.
You can sign up for free phone call at Prosperityproject.org

In an email I recieved it stated, “Last week, (Paul Ryan) laid out a vision for returning our nation to a path of prosperity. The answer to our nation’s fiscal struggle isn’t spending more, it’s ending the binge of borrowing and debt.”

I signed up for the phone call.

 

House GOP budget cutting plan

carolina Monday, January 31st at 10:19PM EST (link)

- snips -
First, he said Republicans who want a cut of $100 billion were basing that on the Democrats’ original plan to spend $478 billion this year, which is $100 billion more than FY 2008. But that plan was never adopted, and the current CR would spend a little less this year, $463 billion. Riedl says that reduction means Republicans only have to cut $85 billion in the current fiscal year to reach 2008 levels, and prorating that over seven months means cuts in the neighborhood of $50 billion.

From there, members of the RSC could propose additional cuts on the House floor, and votes on various proposals would allow the GOP to test their popularity.
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Whatever passes the House is likely to be contested by Senate Democrats, who may adopt President Obama’s State of the Union plan to simply freeze spending at current levels. If so, the House and Senate may face a contentious two-week stretch in late February in which they will be under pressure to reach some agreement on government funding before the current CR expires on March 4.

(from theHill)
The real battle will be the Conference with the Senate.

Again, the American people do not want a math lesson

davesinsanantonio Tuesday, February 1st at 7:07AM EST (link)

from wimpy weasels. They want the results they were promised, not pitiful excuses as to why the Reps are going to chicken out. Just do what you promised to do and then we will listen to you next campaign season. Wimp out and we will never believe you again. And, we will work for your early retirement in the primaries.

 
 

And how did Tennessee fare?

Blue_Collar_Muse Tuesday, February 1st at 6:23AM EST (link)

Thanks for the link through to the GOP House members who ARE standing for fiscal discipline. Even though it is tempting to wonder just HOW disciplined one can be said to be when committing to only cut $100B, it’s better than a sharp stick in the eye.

I checked the Tennessee delegation and the results were disappointing. Of the GOP incumbent House members from the 111th Congress, only Marsha Blackburn (TN07) and Phil Roe (TN01) are on the list. John Duncan (TN02) is absent.

More troubling are the ranks of the 4 Freshman, all of whom ran as Conservatives. Diane Black (TN06) and Chuck Fleischmann (TN03) are on the list. But Stephen Fincher (TN08), who swore he was a fiscal Conservative despite his personally profiting from farm subsidies and who garnered a Red State endorsement early on, is conspicuously absent along with Scott DeJarlais (TN04).

The only Democrats remaining after the bloodbath (please insert stock disclaimer of violence incitement here) here in TN are Steve Cohen (TN09) who likely doesn’t even know he has the option to vote against spending and my Rep, Jim Cooper (TN05) for whom there are no appropriate words. Neither made the list …

Blue Collar Muse

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The "Pledge with America" was a total waste of time

ihateliberals Tuesday, February 1st at 5:10PM EST (link)

and energy. No one cared about it nor thought it would do any good. What we wanted to here was that the new congress would overthrow Obamacare and Plug the holes where we are hemorrhaging. don’t forget that many of the Republicans that returned to congress were the RINO’s like Boehner. They rode in on the coat tails of the Tea Party and had no intention of adhering to the Pledge to start with. Since the house passed the repeal of Obamacare where is the push from the Speaker to the Senate to do something with the bill. It makes me think that Boehner may not be sincere in his hatred of Obamacare and really doesn’t want it repealed.

Another thing that hasn’t impressed those of us that understand what a Trillion dollars is, is that $100 Billion is nothing. It’s not even good pocket change when you think of the deficit being $14 Trillion dollars. $100 Billion X 10 = $1 Trillion It would take 140 times that to equal the deficit. The first order of business needs to be concentrating on stopping any further spending. At this point I don’t believe we have a congress yet that understands what we want or that wants to give us what we want. There seems to need to be another blood letting in the 2012 congress to get rid of not only more Democrats but the remaining RINO’s. I have been a life long Republican (60 years) but only because I am a conservative. The Tea party needs to get involved again and make sure the RINO’s know that We the people are still out here and we aren’t going away.

People keep talking about cutting SS. This kind of talk has to stop. We are losing the older generation because of this. That is why so many of them still vote Democrat. What we need to be doing with Soc Sec is not cutting the payments but in stopping the younger people from having to go on that system. Reform the program so that a mandatory system is put in place but one that is funded entirely by the participants and protecting it form the government hijacking the funds as they have been doing since Lyndon Johnson allowed that to start. That is why SS is broke in the first place. Just like Obamacare FDR looked at it s a way to enslave voters to continue to vote Democratic. It isn’t the governments place to run a retirement fund. If it was mandatory for me to have a plan that i could mange to a point i would have three times the retirement fund than i have right now and that is even with the market crash

Privatizing Soc Sec, Medicare and Medicaid would allow the people to have more control and better plan for their future. These are things that need to be done but we have to ensure that those that are already on the existing systems won’t lose any ground. with this kind of talk and ACTION many of the seniors that are afraid of the Republicans would come to the fold.

When we win the Senate in 2012 with the Presidency and a bigger majority in the House many reforms will be able to be put in place. Then the spending cuts can occur and the useless entitlement programs can be evaluated and terminated accordingly. Then we wil be talking about real cuts to the spending and deficit reduction.

 

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