Are the bad days behind France?

To be fair they did look good against England, but that's because England are a bad side. Against Brazil they played most of the game against 10 men, so it's hard to judge them on that performance too.

you would have thought if Ribery was coming in for anyone it would be Malouda.. you mention Gourcuff not having the best of times but surely Malouda falls into that category too as his form is nowhere near that of last season..

I also dont think Jose was being shrewd at all.. I think he was being a bad coach and airing his views publicly with regards to Benzema.. he was in a win win situation.. he says these things and he starts performing he gets hailed once again for a bit of reverse psychology.. if Benzema doesnt pick up on form he gets proven right.. A real coach does his barracking behind closed doors and his praise in public.

In my opinion it's nice to see a team who despite having a multitude of exceptionally talented players have underachieved even more so than the English squad. It makes me feel slightly less depressed about Englands poor performance in the world cup. And the best thing about it (speaking as a true english man) is that its the French national team.

It is hard to say whether the players revolting is a lack of discipline or whether the management of the team was their downfall. Evra and Ribery are both good players and in my eyes deserve to be in the squad.

It is a shame about Gourcuff, he was showing a lot of promise.

This is a great example of what a national football centre can do for a nation's game. The quality of players emerging from England is eclipsed by Clairefontaine's conveyor belt of talent. France are definitely a team to fear for the next few years.

It would be great if France could regain some form and become European powerhouse like in the 1998 and 2000 and it seems like with Blanc they may be able to do that. He seems to be focusing more on the younger players for the future unlike Domenech's awful selection of older past it players. I hope Evra is called back long-term or else it will suggest that the woes of the world cup will not be dead and buried like they should be for this France team to develop.

"Blanc has made it clear that Evra will not regain the captain's armband, now worn by Diarra".
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I guess in Blanc's case, he means it - unlike Capello !!

France have an excellent team. Their defence isnt what it was 10 years ago, bar Lloris. They are minus a zidane but apart from that they have superb options all over the midfield and attack. Plus they are able to pass and move a ball under pressure, something home nations are totally unable to do.

Id back them to be a real force in the 2012 and 2014 tournos. And they will also have home advantage in 2016.

#6

Agreed. Aime jacquet was under immense pressure going into a game against romania in 1995 with the mad french press tearing strips off the country boy they perceived him to be. He had put a real focus on youth and was struggling to get reuslts..........

He won. We all know what happened after that. Semi in 96, winners in 98 and 2000.

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Most big Footballing nations (I am not English but I include England in the list), should always be managed by one of their own. This is not knock on Fabio Cappello; He has prove managership record; but managing big teams requires managing their egos, and this requires understanding of psyches player's for a particular nation and the way to communicate. Sorry if I am turning this into a discussion about England, but I can't help noticing the difference that new managers have made at France and Italy. When Capello talks in English no matter how hard he tries he comes out like a Caesar or a Don.

Before someone mentions Steve Mclrean or Domenic, I am not saying that choosing a manager of same nationality always brings success, but they will at least relate better with players and understand how to better communicate with players.

I think France should get Cantona in as manager to kick start a new improved squad.

@ Distin_the_night_away

Shouldn't you be in lessons? What time do schools close these days!

Clown!

13. What kind of beast wants to know what time schools close?

PS, please stop stalking me. It seems that every comment I make on these blogs is very quickly abused by you, and I'm actually quite scared now especially given your penchant for weird questions.

Do I win an award for getting the word "penchant" in a blog about french footy by the way? Lololollolololololo

France have some exciting young players, the likes of Benzema, Nasri, Menez, Gourcouff, M'Vila and Remy to name a few. If Blanc can mould these together then the future looks bright. They've also brought back two experienced world class individuals in Evra and Ribery. For all they did wrong at the WC, they would get into most teams in the world. Fashion them into a team who can play, and it seems like he can, then I think France can put their dreadful South Africa bahind them. My only concern would be the defence, which doesn't seem as strong as other areas and could be a weakness.

Unlike England, they seem to be trying to learn from their WC mistakes, taking a chance with younger players and relying less on previous incumbants. I would like to see England use their up and coming players more,the likes of Wilshere, Rodwell, Young, even giving Smalling a chance after impressive performances for United. WE can't do much more poorly than currently.

@Distin_The_Night_Away

LOL :P

2. At 13:13pm on 23rd Mar 2011, Mikey wrote:

you would have thought if Ribery was coming in for anyone it would be Malouda.. you mention Gourcuff not having the best of times but surely Malouda falls into that category too as his form is nowhere near that of last season..

I also dont think Jose was being shrewd at all.. I think he was being a bad coach and airing his views publicly with regards to Benzema.. he was in a win win situation.. he says these things and he starts performing he gets hailed once again for a bit of reverse psychology.. if Benzema doesnt pick up on form he gets proven right.. A real coach does his barracking behind closed doors and his praise in public.
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this is the best comment i have read anywhere today.
indeed what jose was doing with benzema was no reverse psychology. it was foolishness. the fact that benzema is doing well is entirely due to his determination and his quality as a player. which he has had from his lyon days. he didnt become a bad player overnight?
jose did same with ballotelli(though i admit he is an incorrigible young lad). i think players deserve the respect and support of their coaches.(at least in public)

Laurent Blanc has done very well with the squad he inherited from the clown Domenech, and thankfully he actually made our bunch of youngsters turn into a quite good team.

It's still a bit soon to judge, but so far the evidence is that the French team is going in the right direction. The recall of Ribéry (and Evra) were undue in my mind, he had actually built a team with all the youngsters, fresh and motivated to play for the blue shirt, but now he's bringing back a very disruptive element in Ribéry (part of the reason Gourcuff was so anonymous during the WC was because he was regularly bullied by Ribéry).

Evra has only been called back because of Abidal's recent operation (I wish him a quick and thorough recovery), but the whole of France portrayed him as the main culprit of the fiasco in South Africa when Domenech was the only reason the squad literally exploded. If Blanc and Evra have made peace on the situation, good for them but I think that we'll start going in the wrong direction because of these two's recall.

Nevertheless, Laurent Blanc has done a fabulous job of rebuilding the squad so far. This team has the potential of reaching great heights, and I sincerely hope they go on to become European or World Champions in the near future.

Comparing that to the current situation of England, I have to say it's quite hilarious. For all the so-called lower quality of the Ligue 1 in France, they've been able to assemble what actually looks like a good football-playing team. England, on the other hand, seem happy to keep cloggers and journeymen who don't care about the country one bit. The funnier part is that the English press genuinely think England have a chance of winning a major event.

Domenech ran an absolute train wreck of a WC campaign, surpassing the English, and no surprise that things have picked up for the French after this guy left. The same man who complained long and loud about how lucky we were to beat them at Hampden and how this would never ever ever happen in Paris. Until it did of course and Scotland beat them again in Paris. Superb. Couldn't have happened to a better daftie!

But apart from their opening game you really would have expected them to beat the likes of Bosnia and Luxembourg quite comfortably. Beating Romania was a good result but at home I think. And they will comforably beat Luxembourg again this week.

Friendlies don't count, especially against a 10-man Brazil and lacklustre England.

The world cup was a shambles, but it often takes something major to set things off back in the right direction. Similar to Germany after Euro 2000. France have some talented players, they just need to unite behind Blanc, who is obviously a talented manager.

19. At 14:26pm on 23rd Mar 2011, Rob04 wrote:

...Friendlies don't count, especially against a 10-man Brazil and lacklustre England.
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I watched both games and France were Comfortably the better team the Whole 90 mins. Should have been more than 1-0 v Brazil, and certainly against England (who only had 10 mins of good possession and got a goal back).

Give Lolo enought time, and he'll surely bring the best out of this French squad, they have quality and probably 2nd best (behind spain) in terms of 'metrise de jeu'..

France will feature greatly in the Euros, but my prediction is that they'll be at their very best in 2014-16.

Good to see Ribery and Evra back in the squad, wish Abidal all the very best with his recovery.

A breath of fresh air does wonders! when i'd seen how my team played and behave both on and have the pitch i was throughly ashamed. These players are quality players one who can raise to the uptiome of football glory and yea the management must also comes into consideration. However i do feel that Les Bleus is moving in the right direction they have not turn the corner by any stretch of the imagination but they are on course...I should think that we will bet lex by 3 goals the key for me is the defence and its mentality blanc needs to ensure he have a good look in that area. as for franck and evra called up well i do understand the implications they had in recent times i do hope they can put the past behind em and TO ARMS YE MEN Grab your weapons, citizens!
Form your batallions!
Let us march! Let us march!
May impure blood
Water our fields!
or score a ton of goals lol....

PST=> am sick of ppl writing on and on and on about english football this is ABOUT THE FRENCH TEAM seriously ? wth **total*ly confused as to why u lots keep mentioning england***

@Silverwash

People keep writing about the England team because this is primarily a British website, so a lot of users wil be English, and like France, England had a poor WC and are trying to rebuild. They keep being mentioned as a comparison between the two and how poor England look as opposed to France, especially in the friendly they played against each other. It was inevitable that would happen on a blog about French rebuilding because they look to have come out of 2010's disaster in better shape, depsite the early slip up against Belarus, whereas England have barely changed anything and still look rather lacklustre and ineffectual at breaking teams down or against superior technical sides like France.

@2 .
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oh really? like who, Arsene? who consistently blame luck for his teams lazy heartless outings than hold his butterflies accountable. Jose is honest and a winner,respect that.Benzema was slacking and he called him out

Who cares about France...........

After all they were only at the last World Cup after a dubious goal against Ireland.

and Now ...... they have got their just desserts by reaping what they have sown

12. At 13:54pm on 23rd Mar 2011, howardami wrote:
I think France should get Cantona in as manager to kick start a new improved squad.
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Or they could stick with a bright young talented manager like Blanc? Rather than a preening self important clown who played a part in a poor period for French football and when he left the national team they started to win things!

There are two players France would do well to shunt aside, Gourcuff and Toulalan.....I watched them in the champions league game vs Real, in both games they were a real let down, France had better not field them.

# 24 Clearly you have a problem with Arsene Wenger.. I think you should address that on your own rather than take my post as an excuse to air your views.. I think we all agree on Arsene needing to break his staunch system now and again but no one can argue with his past achievements or ability with players and tactics.. so yes I would categorise him as a 'good coach'

hopefully you are not eating or drinking when you read my reply as choking may occur.

Jose is a great manager but anyone who doesnt think he behaves like an eejit at times is kidding themselves.

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...... they have got their just desserts by reaping what they have sown
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They have refreshed their team and on the evidence so far it doesn't appear to be too much of a punishment!!

@ 28.
offcourse Arsene is a great coach( get off the past glories though). But questioning Jose's methods which has worked everywhere he's been to is a bit out there, innit?
If it was Arsene people would probably say its psycological. Benzema has picked up his game, so it worked.

Gourcuff has been a huge disappointment at Lyon. He probably gets games in the OL midfield, ahead of Pjanic, purely to justify his transfer fee and to please the sponsors. Maybe he will come good next season with a better coach in place (Pu-el Dé-miss-ion!). Maybe.

For me the reality has been, you can't really say how a national team is going to do until after qualifying, as some really just do whats necessary until the tournament. I don't think anyone is seriously suggesting that France (or England for that matter) won't qualify but when you are down to the short strokes against Spain Germany Brazil Argentina etc. Do you fancy either France or England against those teams when its do or die? Hmmm.

The France - Brazil QF in 2006 set them off on their way to the final. They were hopeless in the group stages in Germany. And beat a Portugal that was then much better than it is now. But talking of England, I totally agree. We're destined for the odd fluke like Germany in 2002 qualifiers, or Holland in Euro 96.

post 32
when you are down to the short strokes against Spain Germany Brazil Argentina etc. Do you fancy either France or England against those teams when its do or die?

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France for me

There's enough blame to go round in France's WC meltdown. From what I can gather, Domenech is a four star clown. But any group with the slightest sense, tact, or empathy would never have acted the way they did. It was one of the more spectacular examples of bunker mentality, to me--thinking that people are going to take your side, which they evidently did, rather than expect multimillionaire players to do the best they could to represent their country.

I also noted France looked comfortably better than Brazil, and felt it demonstrated both that France's very talented team is back to firing on all cylinders, and that Brazil continues to lose its way. I hate France, as a general rule, but was pleased on some level to see they've recovered from their collective insanity.

8 - You say France are missing 'a Zidane'; indefinite article, if any player deserves to be referred to using the definite article, it is The Zidane, and he will never be replaced.

Anything is possible I guess. But I put France in the second tier along with Italy, England, Holland (who I think over achieved last time out)- nothing to be ashamed of and there is no doubt they have some strong players who on their day can make a difference, but not in every position. Ribbery for example - if you've watched Bayern this year, he has just been adequate since coming back into the team. Evra is not as strong as he was two or three years ago with MU, Anelka is starting to get long in the tooth, Gourcouff was very mediocre with Milan and apparently hasn't progressed much since, Benzema is a good player but most RM fans will tell you Higuain is the better finisher- so personally I don't see them as world champions but I think they'll be in last 16.

"I also noted France looked comfortably better than Brazil" (I meant when Brazil had 11 men as well as when they had 10)

Under domenech they were a complete joke, i don't know how he managed to keep his position for so long. They didn't seem to have a way of playing or a specific style or tactics on how they wanted to play. Under Blanc however, they do look a very good side, i saw an interview with both him and malouda and a few other players where they were talking about their football philosophy and how they wanted to play. Blanc said that he wants to play football the right way, to get the ball down and pass and move it and keep possession and play good attacking exciting football and score goals. I was really happy to hear this, Blanc also said that most pplayers want to play this way and are generally excited when a manager birngs in this philosophy, so why don't more teams do it???? Nasri and Gourcuff are going to be key for france as they are the main playmakers in the team, malouda valbuena and ribery provide the pace and trickery, and they have many defensive defensive midfielders such as alou diarra lassana diarra m'villa etc. They also have good attacking options in benzema gignac remy. The future looks bright as Blanc is a very intelligent coach who is also very young yet immensely experienced and it is good that he is wanting to play football the right way and i think france will become a real force in international football once again.

During the WC Domenech hardly spoke to the players: he didn't give them any game plans, only stood and watched at training sessions - who wouldn't revolt against that?

Blanc really learned what coaching and real management is about under Sir Alex, when Blanc played for MU. He likes to get close to his players, and it seems to work. My only problem with him is he left Bordeaux (my team) in a mess after the French Football Fed had offered him the France job at Christmas, but told him to keep it secret!. His mind was elsewhere (obviously).

As for Gourcouff, he shone under Blanc at Bordeaux, but then went off the boil just as Blanc did and hasn't been the same since.

btw, one of the first things Blanc did as manager of France was to bring in The Zidane to talk to the players about his pride at wearing the French shirt. Blanc told his players "if you don' t agree with Zizi then leave now". (Management skills).

I always find with much amusement the demise of the french national team. Wasn't it in 2002 they were sent packing in the group stage? Did they not reach the following World Cup final though (2006)?

One intersesting fact i can remember when i was about 15 or 16, was that when Blanc played for Man you, there was an article in one of the dailly newspapers.

B.L.A.N.C
B=Bolton, L=Liverpool, A=Arsenal, N=Newcastle, C=Chelsea

These were the games blanc played in ( i even think they were in the first few months of the season) and Man you lost them all.

I love that fact!!



Lionel Charbonnier

29. At 16:28pm on 23rd Mar 2011, Rob04 wrote:
#25
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They have refreshed their team and on the evidence so far it doesn't appear to be too much of a punishment!!



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About as refreshing as a 'naff' bottle of wine and a one legged frogs leg

#43

But good enough to beat what's in front of them all the same.

I kind of want the french team to bounce back but I kind of don't want them to. (well I am english so..) They have a lot of talented players (like England) and they CAN play well together (unlike England) so I think that they probably will bounce back. It was smart to bring back Evra and Ribery because they are both very talented players. This is all I have to say.

i think it's always disappointing to see talented teams such as france-and england- play so poorly at major competitions such as the world cup. it's one month every 4 years where the worlds best players (minus giggs!) are all on show, so when they turn up and play badly it's disappointing.

i would rather see all the top teams inc. england, france, spain, brazil, germany, holland play their best football at the big competitions, than see them fail and go home early.

one more thing...evra is a god

France have an abundance of quality, and several players just about teetering at the edges of becoming world class. I'm thinking M'Villa, Menez, Lloris, Nasri. Will have to wait and see about Benzema, but if anyone can get the best of him it's Mourinho. One of two big egos or underperformers can be left out with little harm, and let them watch from the sidelines and see if they are inspired to get their act together.

As an international manager you can do nothing about club form, and the player's confidence going into your squad. A bunch of big players, just by coincidence, have struggled at club level to reach their potential. Blanc's job is to create a coherent tactical set up using his player's best assets and keep the mood good.

For all the stereotypes about French egos, I really think the blame for 2010 lays with Domenech. Yes, there are big egos there who acted wrongly, but these are players that for the most of their careers have had club managers able to manage them and get the best of them. Part of managing is knowing how to deal with spoiled and egotistic footballers.

Much as it may chide the English, the French and Germans look very exciting at the moment.

"Chide"? No. Mistake by me.

My point still stands you are the one bringing Wenger into the argument for no apparent reason..

and I will question Mourinho as I think this time he was being a bad coach and doing so in public but he has carte blanche in the majority of the publics eye because of his achievements

France have got some good young players coming through and if they gel as a team they will be a force to be reckoned with.
It seems as though Laurent Blanc has got the respect of the players (having played the game and being a World Cup Winner) something that Domenech never had. Some of his tactics and decisions were just weird...I'm surprised he lasted as long as he did....maybe this was down to the bigwigs at the FFF...funnily enough we (England) are going through a similar period right now...Time for a change at FA HQ..and below..

If Alou Diarra is captain and presumably first choice then the quality is definately not what it used to be. However Blanc is showing that he is able to motivate and inspire a team, so for that reason I believe they will do well. It seems he is complimenting a solid base with some attacking talent, especially through Benzema and Ribery.

They will do well as then ivariably have done since 1980

The French are lucky to have 'big egos' as their only problem .. Blanc should be able to handle that problem n once tackled the French Team will be back to its best.

I have to say the blame for the fiasco lies clearly and squarely with Domenech. France got to the World cup Finale against Italy, thanks to Zidane, and in spite of Domenech. He was a terrible man manager, he was a lousy tactician, and the fiasco was one that was unavoidable the longer he was in a job. The players had zero respect for him, so it was no surprise to me to see it blow up. I work and live in France, I don't sense any blame towards the players, but a lot of animosity towards the ex coach. France are moving in the right direction, they have fantastic players, and a decent bloke who has been to the heights, and served with the best a manager and player. Laurent Blanc might not win the World cup as a manager, but he will be there or there abouts. The shame of it all is that I think with the French manager, the French team should have won an awful lot more in the last decade.

Bring back 606 on match day

Mourinho showing shrewd man-management? not in this case- he slated Benzema and brought in Adebayor for a reason, and that was simply that he didnt want to play Benzema. The way he plays is not suited to the only style Mourinho is really comfortable with, which involves playing off the long ball to the big man up front. Adebayor suits this fine, but he isnt half the player Benzema is. Mourinho had to create a reason for playing Adebayor, the fans and board at Real hold the coach much more accountable for match day decisions.

it backfired, and Real get the best of it.

the "Zidane-Deschamps era"

What is that??????????????? Deschamps was an irrelevance. He sat in front of the back four fouling people. France had a dozen players who could do that and they would have still been successful.

@51. At 09:42am on 24th Mar 2011, tomefccam wrote:

"If Alou Diarra is captain and presumably first choice then the quality is definately not what it used to be."

See my previous comments about Deschamps. Alou Diarra is a far better player than Deschamps.

That said, Blanc is a questionable replacement for Le Clown. The way he ended his last season with Bordeaux was pathetic and really calls into question his quality as a manager. Deschamps has shown more as a coach than Blanc.

44. At 20:25pm on 23rd Mar 2011, Rob04 wrote:
#43

But good enough to beat what's in front of them all the same.

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Forgetting the World Cup 2010, where France lost against Mexico & South Africa, I fail to see the logic in your comment with the Euro Qualifiers;

Lost to home to Belarus in August last year.........
Won against Boznia, Romania, and Luxembourg is hardly "good enough to beat what's in front of them"

@56

I completely disagree.

Deschamps was a teriffic player, and captained a very good team to champions league glory in 1993 at a really young age.

He won a ECL medal with Juventus in 1996 and captained his country to World Cup and Euro success.

Diarra has never played anywhere near this level domestically or on the Champions League stage, he was deemed not good enough to break through earlier in his career at Bayern Munich or Liverpool.

It is a flawed point you make. Yes Diarra may have a wider array of skills, but this doesn't make him a better player - as Deschamps was arguably the best player of his generation as a holding midfielder. As a leader he proved to be a true inspiration.

Stan Collymore was a better skilled footballer than Deschamps also, but a better player - I don't think so.

@RVPersie - France has underachieved even more so than the England squad?!? As a proud Frenchman (and an anglophile might I add), I have to disagree. France won the World Cup in 1998, won the Euro in 2000 and went to the final of the World Cup back in 2006. I live in England and I want England to well...so long as they don't play against France. Let's be honest though...what has England achieved in that time?!?

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Won against Boznia, Romania, and Luxembourg is hardly "good enough to beat what's in front of them
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I think you will find that it is self-evidently good enough!