Nato to take charge of no-fly zone – but US role is unclear

By Paul Ames in Brussels

Rebel fighters under attack near Ajdabiya

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Rebel fighters under attack near Ajdabiya

Nato reached a partial agreement late last night to take over the command of the no-fly zone over Libya, but deep divisions within the alliance mean the US will have to remain in charge of air strikes on Colonel Gaddafi's ground forces.

The decision to run parallel campaigns, with Nato's military headquarters planning missions against Gaddafi's air forces, but a separate US chain of command dealing with ground attacks, will set alarm bells ringing among military planners, given the scope for confusion and duplication it brings.

"At this moment there will still be a coalition operation and a Nato operation," said Nato Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen. "We are considering whether Nato should take on the broader responsibility ... but that decision has not been made yet."

The complex deal appeared to be the only way to persuade Turkey to accept any Nato role. Ankara is opposed to Nato bombing ground targets, fearing civilian casualties in a fellow Muslim nation. In an effort to minimise the confusion, US Admiral Samuel J Locklear is expected to play a key operational role in both command chains.

Since air operations began on Saturday, the mission has been co-ordinated by US headquarters in Germany and Italy, but from the beginning the Obama administration had made clear they wanted the Europeans to take over after the first phase of the operation.

Washington is anxious to avoid being drawn into another prolonged conflict in the Muslim world and wanted to hand over command by early next week to Nato or to a combination of European allies. US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton joined Mr Rasmussen in insisting that Nato will continue to work on the military plans for the alliance's broader role to protect civilians against Libyan ground forces, even without the political agreement for them to do so.

"All 28 allies have also now authorised military authorities to develop an operations plan for Nato to take on the broader civilian protection mission. Nato is well-suited to co-ordinating this international effort," she said in Washington.

Opposition from France and Turkey to Nato taking command has led to a week of acrimonious wrangling at Nato's Brussels headquarters. Aside from the traditional French aversion to Nato, President Nicolas Sarkozy was concerned that putting the anti-Gaddafi operation under a Nato flag will alienate Arab opinion due to the alliance's role in Afghanistan.

One diplomat likened the poisonous atmosphere at allied headquarters to the deep splits in the alliance in 2003 when France and Germany opposed the invasion of Iraq. After meeting David Cameron and other European leaders at an EU summit in Brussels, Mr Sarkozy denied there were splits over the way ahead in Libya.

"Europe is totally united," he said. "Gaddafi cannot count on any divisions in Europe, nor in the coalition." He declined to talk about the Nato decision, beyond saying that the alliance military command would still need to be overseen by a political committee made up of members of the wider coalition.

"The technical, military co-ordination of the operation will be done by Nato, but the political co-ordination will be done by the coalition, that is an agreement between myself with Mr Obama and Mr Cameron," he claimed.

  • amazed01again
    Is that all of the Libyans...or some of the Libyans? What are we? Saviours?
  • amazed01again
    lol
  • amazed01again
    Because gormless people like you and me voted for them, of course!
  • amazed01again
    Would it be worth it?....just to make a point on a thread?
  • amazed01again
    Why? Has it gone away? I am sure you are no hypocrite.
  • amazed01again
    Things are not always what they seem to be. And when did public opinion start to govern these things?
  • amazed01again
    And no doubt the West will be there to aid them in their labour for freedom.
  • amazed01again
    There is always a witch to be hunted.
  • paracetamol
    thats what iran thinks, and why its heading towards nuclear.. fanatical islam cant be stamped out. its intertwined with hatred. powerful stuff. it may lead to one heck of a showdown, one day. the glimmer of hope is that iran, which has been suffocated by it, is aware. and the population groans to be free.
  • andre_t
    1 sure, but france and gb taking the oil contracts that the libyan governemnt oil company runs currently does what exactly for me. I forgot, the honourable institutions of bp and total 2 ballistic missiles, where are they, nobody will find any after the invasion. we have had that one before, try your luck elsewhere 3 just like sarkozy and france supporting every dictator in africa only to change 180 degrees when exposed, ever heard of Ben Ali 4 how much oil does france get from libya, well well send in the foreign legion (mercenaries) who are mainly east europeans and germans, so they will do their bit for the grand nation
  • kawasakiman
    Apart from more fingers in the middle eastern oil pie. Iran is next.
  • paracetamol
    more tyrants in the making... as such a law will need to be enforced...people disappear...police brutality...
  • paracetamol
    nope...the US didnt have anything to gain by instigating regime change...
  • snotcricket
    As Obama spoke during his quite oddly pre-election triumphalist tour of Europe etc, the wondrous one turned to me & said I wouldn't trust him as far as etc, etc.
  • davdos
    The U.S. and Obama's role is perfectly clear. He's trying to pretend the U.S. isn't leading yet another foreign war!
  • Legal_Beagle
    A case of 'better the Devil you don't know, than the one you do'?
  • roysavage
    Nope soon as things get tough France will cooperate with guy with tash.
  • roysavage
    Exatly that is why we should wring our hands of this and get the best deal out of whoever wins this battle.
  • roysavage
    Yup totally agree. Mission creep by politician who want to be bask and share in the glow of these so called Arab revolutions. These revolutions will have achieved what in the long term? Their regimes to a large part are still there in power as before - for that see Egypt and Tunisia. Have they achieved true democratic reforms, equal rights for men and women, proper rule of law? nope. Why should we be giving heavy weaponry to a group of people we hardly know anything about, are we not worried about where these weapons would end up... so little thought in this misadventure.
  • oldskald
    Y'know, this really ain't good. We have military forces committed to an operation. Regardless of the rights or wrongs of the operation (I personally have doubts about the morality and legality of what's happening, but that isn't relevant to my point), I am hugely concerned about the strategic and operational planning which is, or isn't, happening. This current operation is against a state which cannot, in reality, directly threaten UK security in any meaningful way. But imagine that they could, and this farce of "pass the hot potato" when it comes to control of this op was continuing with UK borders threatened. It sends shudders down the spine, and can hardly inspire confidence in the military who are risking their lives doing the dirty work. And then we have the disconnect between the politicians and the military. The military (the employed experts) are saying one thing about their capabilities, and the legal targets that they can attack. And the politicians (the amateurs) are getting a lot more gung-ho, and don't seem to be listening to what the generals and air marshals are telling them. Concerning. Then, whilst we can agree that Gaddafi is an ogre, we have precious little information about some important factors in this civil war. These factors include: the actual level of support for either side, the desires of the rebels, the capabilities of the rebels, the promises the rebels have made (if any) to secure intervention. I would like some information regarding these issues. Lastly, where do we go from here? What is the exit strategy? Do we end up with boots on the ground? If so, how long will they be there? How can such an involvement be squared with other, ongoing operations to which we are committed? Or do we arm the rebels? This particular prospect doesn't fill me with confidence; the potential for innocent casualties caused by untrained rebels equipped with modern, heavy weaponry is frightening. I don't feel that the intervention, as it stands at the moment, is anything other than a mess. In some ways I'd prefer it if we simply a) recognised the Benghazi government as the legal government of Libya, and b) declared war on the Gaddafi faction. It least it would be... honest.
  • roysavage
    Arming the rebels will just prolong a war we should have kept out for. The rebels are nowhere near strong enough even if armed to win this. More likely they will sit and wait for NATO to put boots on the ground. If it's not a war for for us to fight we should not have got involved in the first place. I see mission creep coming.
  • Sebranjor
    The US was begged by the UK and France to enter this boondoggle. A recent poll showed that more than 80% of Americans were against this whole intervention. Hopefully, the US Congress will soon put an end to all US involvement.
  • How to win friends and influence people???
  • NATO should play a leading role- helping the rebels and civilians defend themselves from the wroth of Gaddafi. But it's not a war for us to fight. Libya should fight this war to free themselves; it's their right and wish to do so. Cripple Gaddafi's advantages, but then relegate NATO to supplying medical aid, humanitarian aid, supplies and advice to rebel commanders, who might wish for some coordinational help with their brave fighters. America should keep out of the lead role, because when it has a lead role... well, look at the rest of the Middle-East. NATO can do some good here; don't ruin your chance Obama/Cameron/Sarkozy.
  • fychan
    "No more need to be said" Yes there is more to be said, if you don't mind: 1) Whatever happens to Lybian oil affects the worldwide oil market, therefore it affects all countries, not just those in the coalition. (that includes you BTW) 2) Some coalition countries could be dangerously within reach of Gadaff�'s nasty ballistic toys. (that may include you BTW) 3) Hypocrisy also includes Merkel's recent policy "changes" (e.g Lybya and nuclear energy) as elections get closer. 4) 14% of Lybian oil exports go to Germany. Its a German masterplan (for a change) whereby they let others do the nasty job, no German deaths, no money spent, no votes lost. Then, if Gaddafi eventually stays in power it'll be: "hey we didn't help the rebels"; and if Gadaffi loses it'll be: "hey we didn't want to bomb to avoid killing civilians" and "hey we're Germany anyway so we're basically the EU so better let bygones... " So maybe we're all hypocritical, but Merkel is writing the book
  • NATO had a function when a western world had a unifying fear of the USSR, we all needed to stick together with the US to counter a common enemy. Now that fear is no longer with us the "unifying fear" has gone, and with it any hope of consensus. What is needed is a splitting of NATO into sub groups, each still part of NATO but with separate, local responsibilities and freedom of action.
  • EdLancey
    @jamie I just looked at your profile. Unsurprisingly you look mentally ill, and subnormally intelligent.
  • kawasakiman
    The US have been instrumental in this from the word go. They have instigated violence and supplied arms to the rebels, knowing it would provide a premise for invasion and regime change. They are now keeping out of nato's plans, so their own covert actions will be kept out of the spotlight.
  • I'm not the one having my nasty little rants removed from an open debate.
  • EdLancey
    Hopefully now France will veto Turkey in the EU. It is beyonf outrageous that these horse-traders should have any say in the EU. Now they are trying to rebuild part of the Ottoman Empire - it will be interesting to see how that plays out.
  • Imranp2010
    With the presidential election looming last thing the Obama administration want is to be drawn into another prolonged quagmire like Bush did with Iraq and Afgahnistan. Obama was not in the Senate at the time of the vote but he opposed the war from the start which probably swayed voters to vote him in in the first place. Since the release of Megrahi the whole Libyan situation doesn't seem right, there's something sinister going on which we dont know about.
  • pfbulmer
    That is all very clear okay then That means that Obama( not the US people or the US Government who have not been informed about this war as yet but Obama will personally conduct the war himself, at the weekends with Cameron and Sarkosy ,according to Mr Sarkosy's statement so he should know even if no one else knows ?) Plus Cameron and Sarkosy are actually still running the operation so they will be the fall guys for Obama short term , very clever Mr Obama ! but in turn , they have agread as a double indemenity insurance cover , are now sub contracting to Nato in between their heavy achedule for increased photo opportunities . Nato will continue to create the actual humanitarian mess, due to their experience in Iraq and Afghanistan, in creating these messes and most people will agree it has been second to none . The difference is that now, that both of these will be using the UN to take all the blame , which is what they mean by 'we do not want another Iraq' or 'this is not Iraq' ! that could work work as far as the blame game goes and is admirable bit of thinking but not many people will be convinced and what about the people of Libya ? The negotiations for a cease fire will only become a priority when every one is dead, with the above logic, it is certainly difficult to argue with that ?
  • loliner
    "The Egyptian cabinet approved yesterday a decree-law that criminalises strikes, protests, demonstrations and sit-ins that interrupt private or state owned businesses or affect the economy in any way." Anyone here can't imagine a very similar law being passed in Britain?
  • EdLancey
    @jamie you dhimmi moron ? Two can play this game.
  • The bloody war imposed on a country which is oil rich. Why these crusaders not setting up no fly zones and attacking Bahrain and Yemen as well Israel where Human Rights violation are their trade marks. What stops them to invade Burma... Saudis and Britain for killing Irish people. These war mongers killing people in Iraq Afghanistan and now they will use daisy cutters and weapons of destruction against Libyan s for fake reasons ........
  • georgesilver
    All of the "uprisings" in North Africa have an ultimate destination:- "The Egyptian cabinet approved yesterday a decree-law that criminalises strikes, protests, demonstrations and sit-ins that interrupt private or state owned businesses or affect the economy in any way." Lina El-Wardani , Thursday 24 Mar 2011
  • You disgusting little man.
  • ninevah
    The rebels appear to an organised opposition to Gaddafi but who are they, what do they stand for and who is leading them? We appear to spending tens of millions of pounds backing a group of unknowns under the general umbrella of 'humanatarian intervention' The new command and control set-up looks like one group to deal with the politics, another to do the bombing and a third to give it the look of being NATO. In other words a complete cock-up versus a pantomine villain.
  • Jim_Watford
    True but it's not like we had a great choice, it was either the ones who made a right mess of the country or those who are making a mess of clearing up that mess.
  • *yawn* This again?
  • *sigh* We voted them in :^(
  • andre_t
    German Minister on TV last night "...hypocritical of exactly those nations to bomb Libya that have large oil interest in the country" No more need to be said
  • grey_rage
    Cameron and sarkozy a very similar, they are both desperate attention seekers, not a clue between them, and they have just volunteered to hold the sh*tty end of the stick. What a pair of clowns!
  • markfour
    America out the back door and the two poodles left to continue with the costs an backlash. Cameron is so pumped up with self-importance he can't see it. Also now that France has learned to fight will it turn up in Helmand province? Or is that too dangerous?
  • and? I have a great idea for you: Why don't you show your objection in a dramatic way, and torch your self in front of the White House like that Tunisian did in Tunisia... That might get some attention...
  • ew_3
    "but US role is unclear" Totally understandable. Our president prefers to be unclear. This way he can never be blamed for being wrong. This is a guy that voted present when a member of congress rather then commit to a stance. This is a guy that we can't see his transcripts from the colleges he attended - Columbia and Harvard. When I hire someone, I check out their credentials (CV). At the minimum, did they graduate from the school they claimed to graduate from. A very modest check.
  • Jim_Watford
    What a mess, I'm not one for conspiracy theories but you have to wonder how the hell these gormless morons got to be world leaders.
  • FirstAdvisor
    Now what? The political coalition will be running two military campaigns against the same opponent at the same time? Comedians can't write satire like this. No one in any audience would believe it! What's that sucking sound? The quicksand of a quagmire, dragging France, the UK, and the USA down to drown in mud, along with Sarkozy, Cameron, and Obama. So much for re-election for any of the trio. Ten years later . . . .
  • johnbarrettrose
    "a separate US chain of command dealing with ground attacks, will set alarm bells ringing among military planners" Stumbling ever deeper into the fog and the quagmire of war.
  • French politicians are great for drama queen theatrics :-) Turkey, a split between their executive (islamist) and the army (secular) is causing them to be incoherent... + dislike between the two because of ... Stir... Result: interesting soup... meanwhile people on the ground are dying... It makes you despair of politicians, and humanity in general... Hey Sarko, why the change of heart, didn't you say you will not be running for a second term? hmm power, the great feeling it gives... thanks to democracy, we do not get stuck with monsters like Gaddafi for 40 years + - Now why deprive the Libyans and other Arabs from such an evolutionary social breakthrough? especially that now they are waking up and asking for it...

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