Whatever the Guantanamo detainees have done or not done, it is to America's shame that our government is holding them indefinitely without trial, a treatment that was not afforded to known serial killers, Ted Bundy, John Wayne Gacy, and Jeffery Dahmer.

Are we really saying that this miscellaneous assortment of individuals picked up on Lord knows what grounds are so dangerous that they do not deserve the Constitutional rights afforded to Ted Bundy?

Let them be tried in a civilian court or be released, and let's quit this nonsense about their being too dangerous to bring to American soil. Any politician who says that they are too dangerous is either a practicing demagoguery based on Americans' prejudices or is so chicken-hearted that he fears a lone, unarmed individual in chains and behind bars.

By the way, if any of the detainees deemed innocent later went on to commit hostile acts against the U.S., who could blame them? Wouldn't YOU be hostile if a foreign power seized you, transported you halfway around the world, and held you without trial for years?

I grew up an altar boy, a Boy Scout, and I never dreamed that I would one day, just because I was an American, hang my head in shame.

The machinery of this vast empire will inevitably leak into the public domain, and as terminal decline proceeds,
the American sense of moral outrage will grow stronger and stronger. Kudos to the NYT for obtaining and publishing this historical evidence.

US Guantanamo policy and practice reveals the underbelly of democracy, built from the beginning on cruelty and abuse of others.

This article serves to further demonstrate the injustice being committed in conflict with the values upon which our nation was built. That these remaining men have not been given a day in court is shameful. All of us are diminished by the continuation of this travesty in the name of "security". If some of these detainees weren't enemies of the US before, we damned sure made certain that they are now.

Three cheers for WIKILEAKS! Let the truth come out. As the righties always say when they shred the Bill of Rights, "If you didn't do anything wrong then you have nothing to hide." So now that works both ways, guys.
Way to go, WIKILEAKS!
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This interpretation strains credulity. Isn't it plain that the suicides at Guantanamo are acts of despair? Just as plainly, the force-feeding of hunger strikers is recognized around the world as a further assault on the dignity of the prisoners. It is clear that the NYTimes gives the outlaw jailers at Guantanamo and their politician bosses the benefit of the doubt. But the prisoners, many of whom, by the Pentagon's own admission, were simply swept up in mass arrests in Afghanistan, are assumed to be committing an "act of war" by attempting suicide? Truly an incredible reading of the facts.

How can any evidence be expected to stand in the face of torture? The Geneva Conventions are explicit on that account and no amount of tinkering around the edges of those laws can change the reality of Guant

It is becoming increasingly clear with the passage of time that the prisoners
at Guantanamo pose less of a threat to the security of America than, say,
Generals Kayani and Gul of Pakistan and their associates.

Its rare for an article to have this strong an effect on me. Its hard to believe that people can think the way these terrorists do. We all fall into the trap of thinking that others think like we do here in America and that they share our compassion for others. I'm glad they're locked up and hope they stay that way. They'd gladly kill any one of us, simply because we're different than they are. As an altruist and a pacifist its hard for me to comprehend that people like them exist.
God bless the FBI, CIA, Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines and everyone else that works to keep us safe here at home as well. The bad guys in the article would gladly kill any one of us, simply because our religion is different than theirs. They're dangerous madmen. Thank God they're locked up.

It's a substantial proof that prisons at the Guantanamo Bay are not any threat to any country as it has been projected by the US. Government. Releasing them from the prison and sending them as rebels to Libya has damaged the US credibility to the extent which can never be healed.
That is why in a lot of countries around the world the Americans are treated like pimps or who...
President Obama had pledged in his election campaign that he will restore the American trust and pride, but it seem during his era the more damage to our national prestige has been inflicted.

War is dirty business. Those who "play by the rules" lose. There are always innocent people who are hurt and killed in all sorts of ways, most of which never see the light of day.

What about Obama's promise to close Guantanamo? Why has Atty General Holder all of a sudden stopped pushing for granting constitutional rights to enemies of war? Most enemies of war are shot or otherwise disposed of on the battle field. Should we read our enemies their Miranda rights before firing a rifle or lobbing a grenade at them?

The decline of America began long before Guantanamo and has nothing at all to do with playing fair in war. The US would have lost WWI and WWII had we played by the rules.

As far as all this supposed "journalism" uncovering the "true" story of Guantanamo: We don't require that our enemies love us. We need them to fear us. They don't anymore, which is one reason 911 occurred to begin with.

I am really disgusted with reading about things my government may or may not have done to Guantanamo detainees who did or did not do what they were/are accused of doing.

I do not know who or what to believe anymore but I do know that even with wikileaks the whole sordid debate is still going nowhere.

I do believe that President Obama is trying to come to some sensible and final verdict on what to do about each of these men, but in my mind, irrespective of how they are labeled or categorized, they are innocent until proven guilty, so what are we waiting for? Something has got to be decided and soon.

I know one thing for sure and that is whether I was guilty or not of what I was charged with, by this time, under their circumstances, all I would want is to get it over with. After all these years I'd prefer death to limbo.

There is no more cruel or unusual punishment than perpetual limbo.

So we have people in custody that have stayed in the same caves as OBL and we still so not know enough to capture him? Apart from the violations of human rights and the spirit of our constitution, this is a spectacular display incompetence.

We certainly didn't think through the consequences of the "war on terror". It seems to me that the USA lost its way regarding basic values of human rights.

Wake up America,

These people are not citizens. They never wanted to be citizens. And while it is unethical to detain them indefinitely, they do not deserve a civilian trial. Remember the trial of the Manson murderers? A civilian trial for these detainees will be like that. Full of disruptions, insults, a giant media circus, and a painful and royally expensive one at that. And years of appeals that we will also pay for.

According to the Geneva Convention, they are entitled to a military tribunal. Why can't we let that happen?

Liberals seem to be more concerned about the right of the Westboro Baptist Church to protest military funerals and of the right of these hateful terrorist detainees than of your own countrymen. To the latter you save the most genuine contempt.

Are we really scared of these losers? Even if they were responsible for 9/11.. Do people actually believe there will be "terrorist activity" if they are tried in US federal courts? Why the focus on them STILL? Can we get back to rebuilding this country instead of letting a rag tag group that got lucky once pull this nation down to depths we never thought it could reach? The media is guilty in all of this by manufacturing fear where it did not exist. Enough with the red meat already and get to the REAL problems facing this nation.

Required reading on this subject:

'The Guantanamo Files: The Stories of the 774 Detainees in America's Illegal Prison" by Andy Worthington.

Required Viewing on the subject:

"Outside the Law: Stories from Guantanamo"

As Americans, we need to know the truth about what is being done by our government in our name.

While this is certainly interesting, what would be more significant is if your newspaper were to publish its own analysis of the evidence contradicting the official explanation of the events of 9-11, evidence accepted as significant by such figures as former FBI Director Louis Freeh. Some of that evidence throws into question the plausibility that the alleged plotters were, in fact, capable of this act.

It is not the fault of the USA that these people chose to fight in a war with no end. When Islamic terrorists halt their war against the USA, then these people can go home. It makes no sense to send them back to fight again!

The only question that matters...

If it was illegal and immoral and shameful when this occurred under a Commander in Chief who could not pronounce the laws he was violating, what does it say about our nation and its people when this all continues under a man who was a law professor, let alone one who ran on a campaign of ending these disgusting acts?

So much for Obama's open government! He in never to be believed, not ever! I wish somebody would run against him, preferably a Good Democrat!

More than two years and counting and I'm still hoping for change!

To those such as "Scientist" @10 who think it's just great that folks are held without trial for years and tortured, just imagine how you would feel if you were swept away to a far off place and given the same treatment, with no hope of ever returning home again. What we have done to others others can do to us, and undoubtedly will do to us in time. Our government will have no reasonable basis for complaint when this happens. Those who abandon the rule of law will not be heard when they cry for it to be restored for their benefit.

New York Times dutifully attempts to frighten Americans into believing that, however heinous the acts these men may have committed, the nature of the atrocities somehow justifies America's continued subordination/abrogation of the rule of law. As usual, NYT's complicity with the powers that be (in this case the Obama Administration).

Real lesson will be delivered in November 2012 when the President's base stays at home. Only then will the Democrats learn.