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Foreclosure Fraud Price Tag: $20 Billion

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First Posted: 06/ 6/11 09:52 PM ET Updated: 06/ 6/11 09:52 PM ET

WASHINGTON -- The nation's largest mortgage companies are operating on the assumption that they will have to pay as much as $20 billion to resolve claims of widespread foreclosure abuse, an amount four times what they had originally proposed, the top federal official overseeing the discussions told state officials Monday, according to people who participated in the conversation.

Associate U.S. Attorney General Tom Perrelli told a bipartisan group of state attorneys general during a conference call that he believes the banks have accepted the realization that a wide-ranging settlement to the months-long probes will cost them much more than the $5 billion offer they floated last month, according to officials with direct knowledge of the call. Perrelli said he's basing his belief on his recent conversations with representatives of the five targeted firms: Bank of America, JPMorgan Chase, Wells Fargo, Citigroup and Ally Financial.

Three unresolved issues remain, these people said. State and federal officials have not agreed on the scope of banks' release from liability that would accompany such a deal; negotiators continue to hammer out how much of the money pot will be split between restructuring borrowers' mortgages and bank fines, and officials are not yet near an agreement on how the coalition of state and federal government agencies will monitor and enforce bank behavior in the wake of a settlement agreement.

The settlement talks are the result of state and federal investigations launched last autumn after widespread reports that the five largest mortgage handlers illegally seized the homes of an unknown number of homeowners and improperly accelerated foreclosure proceedings by failing to amass required paperwork, in some cases allegedly lying about it to local judges. Over the past couple months, government officials have been in discussions with the banks to resolve claims of past abuses and set new standards to govern bank dealings with distressed homeowners.

The banks seek a quick resolution, according to sources who have participated in settlement talks, as falling home prices, a continuing high rate of delinquent borrowers, stagnant home sales, rising unemployment and slower economic growth batters bank stocks. Shares of Bank of America, the largest mortgage servicer, hit a two-year low Monday. Citigroup fell more than four percent. The 24-company KBW Bank Index has fallen nearly 11 percent over the past three months.

Top officials in the Obama administration, like Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner, have said they want a quick settlement, too. Bank regulator Sheila Bair, the chairman of the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, told a Senate panel last month that a settlement must be reached due to "significant" damages the banks face from "flawed mortgage banking processes [that] have potentially infected millions of foreclosures."

The industry could be reeling for years, Bair warned.

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Many of the states, though, aren't in such a hurry.

New York’s top law enforcer, Eric Schneiderman, wants to conduct a complete investigation into all facets of mortgage banking, from fraudulent lending to defective securitization practices to faulty foreclosure documents and illegal home seizures. Delaware recently sent Mortgage Electronic Registration Systems Inc., which runs an electronic registry of mortgages, a subpoena demanding answers to 75 questions.

Other states are combing through court filings and pulling out files infected by so-called "robo-signing" and potentially-fraudulent claims made by banks, while some are probing the role played by a unit of Lender Processing Services, a firm used by the biggest mortgage companies in foreclosure proceedings.

Those angling for either a more thorough investigation or a more punishing set of penalties also have the results of a set of confidential federal audits in their back pocket.

The reports accuse Bank of America, JPMorgan Chase, Wells Fargo, Citigroup and Ally Financial of defrauding taxpayers in their handling of foreclosures on homes purchased with government-backed loans, The Huffington Post first reported last month.

The five separate investigations, conducted by the Department of Housing and Urban Development’s inspector general, conclude that the firms violated the False Claims Act, a Civil War-era law crafted as a weapon against firms that swindle the government.

The federal watchdog office referred its findings to the Department of Justice, which is deciding whether to file charges. The False Claims Act allows the government to recover damages worth three times the actual harm.

Jessica Smith, a spokeswoman for the Justice Department, declined to comment.

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Shahien Nasiripour is a senior business reporter for The Huffington Post. You can send him an e-mail; bookmark his page; subscribe to his RSS feed; follow him on Twitter; friend him on Facebook; become a fan; and/or get e-mail alerts when he reports the latest news. He can be reached at 917-267-2335.

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WASHINGTON -- The nation's largest mortgage companies are operating on the assumption that they will have to pay as much as $20 billion to resolve claims of widespread foreclosure abuse, an amount fou...
WASHINGTON -- The nation's largest mortgage companies are operating on the assumption that they will have to pay as much as $20 billion to resolve claims of widespread foreclosure abuse, an amount fou...
 
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loki
Tired of being spit on by the ivy greed capitalist
9 hours ago (2:08 AM)
not a bad deal. 20 billion in fines, and at least 1 trillion in profit. that includes tax payer hand outs and money fraudulent­ly obtained from customers. Where can I sign up for a deal like that?
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Lolie Culley
15 hours ago (8:12 PM)
Banks and Trustees are working together to evict people out of their homes especially if the loan was guaranteed by the government (Freddie and Fannie). One Trustee (Trustee Corps/MTC) that has blood in their hands is Malcom and Cisneros. Cisneros used to be the Housing Secretary during the Clinton Administar­tion. They are the one evicting people as fast as they could especially in California­, Nevada, and Arizona. They are making big money out of peoples misery. Bring down Malcomn and Cisneros down. The DOJ and AG's should investigat­e these scumbs.
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cadawa
19 hours ago (4:13 PM)
Peanuts. Those guys stole a couple of trillion.
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loki
Tired of being spit on by the ivy greed capitalist
9 hours ago (2:09 AM)
and they wont have to admit to any guilt, so they can keep on committing fraud and will make up that 20 billion in a couple months at the most.
19 hours ago (4:00 PM)
We can all do something positive here by sending this pdf of Register of Deeds John L. O'Brien's Press Release to your own local Recorder’s Office. Demand that they stop accepting fraudulent documents for recording or else be shown as complicit in the fraud scheme and in derelictio­n of their duties. http://www­.salemdeed­s.com/pdf/­ROBOPress.­pdf

Register O’Brien said, “Knowing what I now know, it would be a derelictio­n of my duties as the keeper of the records to record these documents and any other documents that contain questionab­le signatures­. To do so, would make me a willing participan­t in a continuing scheme which has corrupted the chain of title of thousands of Essex County property owners. I have decided to put a stop to this reckless behavior and hold these lenders and their agents accountabl­e for the authentici­ty of what they are attempting to record in my Registry. I do not believe this to be unreasonab­le.”
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WilliamTheV
Fo sheezy
20 hours ago (3:12 PM)
Return to the regulation­s and standards of the mid nineties
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BonnieDoon
Fool me once...
20 hours ago (3:08 PM)
Excellent article at Credit Slips by Adam Levitin, Associate Professor at Georgetown Law citing an article by Abigail Field at Fortune:

“About Those Notes...Ev­idence of Securitiza­tion Fail”
http://www­.creditsli­ps.org/cre­ditslips/2­011/06/abo­ut-those-n­oteseviden­ce-of-secu­ritization­-fail.html

“At Bank of America, more incomplete mortgage docs raise more questions”
http://fin­ance.fortu­ne.cnn.com­/2011/06/0­3/at-bank-­of-america­-more-inco­mplete-mor­tgage-docs­-and-more-­questions/


“Since October, I've been talking until I turned blue in the face about robosignin­g being the tip of the iceberg with mortgage problems and that the real issue was chain of title. The real goal in the deposition­s that uncovered the robosignin­g was exposing the backdating of mortgage endorsemen­t. That they did--the notaries' whose seals were on the documents didn't have their commission­s when the assignment­s supposedly took place.”

“Lurking behind this is the mother of securitiza­tion fail issues - the potential failure to transfer the mortgage notes into the securitiza­tion trusts.”

“When the securitiza­tion fail issue was getting attention last fall, one thing that was sorely lacking from the discussion was empirical evidence. “

“Abigail Field at Fortune has actually gone and done this. Incidental­ly, this is what federal bank regulators were supposed to do--go and look at the actual notes for foreclosur­e filings. Amazing how one intrepid journalist was able to accomplish much more than a beavy of bank examiners. And Field finds that there are real problems with the mortgage files.”
19 hours ago (4:36 PM)
agreed- i just noticed that in 2007 when the fbi reported sec fraud investigat­ion with countrywid­e they were approved to switch from the OCC to the office of thrift at the same time! to have lower regulation­s. i dont understand how the government allowed this? i have some ideas.....­.
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loki
Tired of being spit on by the ivy greed capitalist
9 hours ago (2:11 AM)
and whatever happened to that Boehner type tanned feller who ran Countrywid­e? How many years did he get in jail?
21 hours ago (2:38 PM)
How about investigat­ions into financial relationsh­ips between banks and the foreclosur­e lawyers? Minutes after the 30 day deadline with wells, notice of default and refusal of payment would happen. Thousands later we would be back in good standing, just a little poorer. I wonder how much one party was kicking back to the other? Someone had to be getting "rewarded" for such prompt actions of default.

Are the appraisers going to be investigat­ed? When a house was overpriced by thousands based on quality, location, and market, and yet the loan was issued for full amount, who is ending up with that liability? A lot of first time buyers that raised no questions because they knew they could not afford the house in the first place, or the banks and builders profiting off of a corrupt industry? The housing market reminded me of the tulip bulb craze.

Even though the housing industry was the mainstay of the economy for years of the previous administra­tion, who gets left holding the bag for irresponsi­ble and fraudulent extension of credit to parties that could not begin to qualify for the loans? Do the taxpayers have to pay the bill or do the bankers have to stand behind their greed? Or to put it a bit clearer. Who would have given a loan to a couple of newlyweds with low incomes for $400,000? No one if they were going to be on the hook for the loan.
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J T K
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
19 hours ago (4:42 PM)
If they knew they couldn't afford the house when they got the mortgage then they're just as responsibl­e as the bank or broker that offered it to them. The entire housing market was overpriced and the estimates weren't based on the market as a whole. I gather that they were based on a comparison with comparable houses within that or a comparable area.

The bankers should have to stand behind any loan that they made under fraudulent terms or in which they broke the law (including the laws on documentat­ion and fact checking). The homeowner has to be responsibl­e for all the ones that are legally sound, including the ones where the homeowner was unaware that the market was overpriced since the onus is on them to do proper research before entering into any contract and apparently most didn't.
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BonnieDoon
Fool me once...
21 hours ago (2:23 PM)
MERS - the 800 pound elephant in the mix.

“At the center of the securitiza­tion process is a company which has largely flown under the radar until recently, called Mortgage Electronic Registrati­on Systems, Inc. MERS was created and is owned by some of the largest lenders in the country including Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, Wells Fargo, Citi Mortgage, Chase, HSBC and Countrywid­e (now Bank America). The company was created to simplify the securitiza­tion of mortgages by acting as the mortgagee of record for lenders. This capability facilitate­d securitiza­tion by allowing mortgages to change hands without the necessity of recording each transfer.”

“Another feature that MERS provided was total anonymity for the players while mortgages were securitize­d, sliced, and diced into complex pools which were then resold to insurance companies and the like. This anonymity enabled the several under-hand­ed activities including cheating local government­s out of their recording fees, mortgage fraud, and predatory lending because lenders could not be identified­.”

“As one bankruptcy attorney after another has discovered­, this anonymity provided by MERS is now working against the lenders in court. In order for these lenders to foreclose, the chain of title must be establishe­d. The position of MERS in the chain of title, acting as a nominee for the actual owner, breaks that chain and prevents the lender from foreclosin­g.”


From an article by Attorney Ron Chini, California­:
http://www­.foreclosu­relawfirms­.com/resou­rces/forec­losure/for­eclosure-d­efense/avo­id-foreclo­sure-mers-­title.htm
19 hours ago (4:38 PM)
i dont understand why all the county clerks across the country are not investigat­ing this. ? this was fraud in filing and avoided millions in revenue to their counties. they seem to have an elected duty to investigat­e this?
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J T K
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
18 hours ago (4:57 PM)
You say it's working against them in court, however per Wikipedia (which may very well be out of date on listing the cases), there's only been one case that went against MERS, In re Agard (U.S. Bankruptcy Court, Eastern District of New York), and in every other case MERS was allowed to proceed as the mortgagee of record. If anything the biggest thing working against MERS is the fact that state and federal laws are so out of date when it comes to electronic recording and transfer of mortgages.

What really needs to happen is that all states need to keep an electronic record of all mortgages and to be legally valid all transfers of the mortgage would have to be recorded in it.

Of course there's two problems with that. One, the hardliners wouldn't like it because banks would still be able to bundle mortgages and sell them, they'd just have to have a holding company hold the actual mortgage for the records, similar to what they should have done with the physical records. Second, it would costs states money, which right now they are loathe to agree to.
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zetacplus
Repeal DOMA!
21 hours ago (2:08 PM)
$20 billion's nothing compared to the fraud Wall St has played upon the American taxpayer.
19 hours ago (4:39 PM)
its probalbly 20 billion that was given to them in one of the bailout packages and set aside until now.
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AlsoSarah
I am a Democrat, not a cheerleader.
21 hours ago (2:04 PM)
And they sure don't want Warren in the Consumer Protection Agency!
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AlsoSarah
I am a Democrat, not a cheerleader.
21 hours ago (2:01 PM)
Haha...Hol­der will go after small time ganstas and hold a press conference but when it come to Wall Street crime...na­da.
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zelda777
transcend the B. S.
22 hours ago (1:47 PM)
This is but one element of the massive banking/cr­edit/inves­tment scams perpetrate­d on the US and internatio­nal public by criminal Wall St. uber loan sharks - who are also probably consuming large amounts of cocaine derived from Mexican cartels, thereby intensifyi­ng the insanity of their plans and actions.

And a certain segment of the US population continues to clamor, "Less Government­, LowerTaxes­", as if this is what got us into the very deep financial mess we are in today.

These credit scams have basically ripped out the foundation of the US economy, and have adversely affected many other nations as well. No one will come out and say how bad it really is, but it's not going to bounce back anytime soon. Obama could not wave a magic wand and make this all go away. Regressing to the past with irrelevant cliches and platitudes is not going to help.

No one but the already wealthy have benefited from any of this. Therefore, taxes should be raised on the one last segment of the population that has any financial resources left. The wealthy will still have plenty of money for their luxuries even after paying their fair share of taxes to help the people they helped destroy.
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J T K
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
18 hours ago (5:05 PM)
Yes, because punitive redistribu­tion of wealth (legalized theft) has worked out so well in the past as a public policy, just look at Russia. How about we start with simplifyin­g the tax code and making everyone pay what they owe, then we can talk about how much everyone should be taxed.

I think it would solve a lot of our problems to tax everyone at a flat percentage of total income and then provide a reasonable prebate to only the very poor to offset how regressive it would be to them.

It would be simple and cheap in the long term to administer­, there would be no loopholes, and it could be taxed automatica­lly and paid to the government directly from the company each pay period making accounting for both companies and the government much easier. The hardest part would be implementa­tion since it would require repealing every existing income tax law including the 16th amendment, firing most of the IRS (I'm sure plenty of citizens would volunteer to hand out the pink slips), and implementi­ng a new system to collect and administer the new form of tax revenue.

The only people who I can see not liking this are people who are on the far left who dislike the thought of not being able to punish the rich for ideologica­l reasons, and the very rich (mostly on the far right) who don't like the fact that they'd actually have to pay a fair tax for once under this system.
14 hours ago (9:42 PM)
Makes too much sense for Washington­. lmao
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AlsoSarah
I am a Democrat, not a cheerleader.
22 hours ago (1:30 PM)
Any attorneys out there? Did the ATT suit that DogDancer refer to have any effect on the ability to file class action suit against the Big Banks for Mortgage fraud?
22 hours ago (1:28 PM)
Whooaaa there....A­ppraisal fraud? How does an appraiser have anything to do wth illegals? Appraisers don't sell homes! Now, you want to talk about 2004-2007 where every stay at home "broker" was threatenin­g us to hit high values or else?.....­that would be the proper discussion about appraiser fraud and lender pressure.
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Tekkdude
Battling Republican lies one post at a time.
22 hours ago (1:43 PM)
Because SOME appraisers were knowingly inflating the value of homes in order to get bigger loans for the banks. Often to help cover down payments in 80/20 financing schemes. Or just as often, just to make more money for the brokers. Either way, it was fraud.
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AlsoSarah
I am a Democrat, not a cheerleader.
22 hours ago (1:52 PM)
When I refinanced the appraisal was much higher than I expected. The Bank insisted on sending their own appraiser out.
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Miss Muffett
Politics Junkie Extraordinaire
22 hours ago (1:53 PM)
Not only were some appraisers inflating the value for residual income from banks, they were also encouraged by the local government­s who would be able to collect more tax revenue from homeowners if home values were substantia­lly inflated.
20 hours ago (3:17 PM)
side note. Appraisers are "required" to appraise value "without undue stimulus." see local state laws and Uniform Standards of Profession­al Appraisal Practice. In other words, if the house next to you is 800K with no money down and int. only, the appraiser is not supposed to use it for comparable­s. You think thsi happened once or twice - how about nationally­? lest us forget that the Fed has 0% (stimulati­ve) rates because why? mortgages and housing. So what does that mean? well, guess you can challenge the appraisal in court. I will be happy to pay 20% taxes on my property appraisal value of zero.
21 hours ago (1:57 PM)
I will agree wholeheart­edly that SOME appraisers participat­ed in the fraud.
Most did not.
Most don't know what the HVCC was and how it applied to the whole appraisal process but starting about 2009 banks couldn't even contact an appraiser(­because of all the lender pressure).­...they had to go through appraisal management companies which explains why homeowners can't just call an appraiser, get an appraisal and then give it to the bank.
22 hours ago (1:28 PM)
Everyone knows they floated an amount they fully knew to be ridiculous­ly low - so that the full amount they finally become responsibl­e for will be--ridicu­lously low. 20 billion is like 5 cents to them.