“The trouble is that the DOMA EXEMPTS ITSELF from parts of the Constitution. How any law that EXEMPTS ITSELF from the Constitution can be considered "Constitutional" is a puzzlement.”
“"After all, religion isn't something you're born with; many people have come out of that lifestyle."
Amen! ALL religion is a choice, quite unlike human sexual orientation. Voting on other people,s rights and freedoms is an obscenity unworthy of America.”
“The article says exactly what you typed. Dont know how HuffPo could "do a better job!. Maybe it is just your reading comprehension skills that need improving.”
“Truth be told, refer to gardening 101 water tree that can produce fruit, do not water tree that will die without producing fruit and continue life.
In times like these when are near bankruptcy the last thing we need is this, soon you will have thousands of people claiming they are gay when they are actually not to get tax breaks. Yes it will happen! No matter what is said, what diseases come up no one will accept the truth when it inconveniences there personal selfishness.”
“Trut me Sam, homosexual people very much ARE "naturally born that way". If it IS/WERE a "choice", YOU could "choose" to be homosexual. Does the thought of that make you gag? That would be because you are not a homosexual. You didn't CHOOSE not to be; you simply are heterosexual.
As for your 'morality' and 'sin' judgements, they're not for you to make. The job of Judge is taken, and by One far worthier than you. My religin teaches differently than yours. Why do you hagte freedom of religion - for OTHER PEOPLE?”
“If homosexual people are born that way, then where is the proof? I have never seen evidence to support this claim!!
True I am not the ultimate judge of sin, that belongs to God alone. However, there are biblical passages that clearly God finds the acts of homosexuality as immoral and sinful. Lastly, your statement of my hating freedom of religion is false and ill founded. I let people believe as they will. I only seek to show other's the path I deem to be just and right.”
“It also says we are to put the victims of incest to death too. But now's not the time for Bible Baseball. There's homophobia to conquer and lies to debunk and injusticers to correct. The heck with some people's religion. Not the topic.”
“Interesting 'guerrilla' technique - sprinkle them with the 'shame' of fairy dust. No harm, but a vivid example of an attention-to-the-issue-getter. I hope there are many more sprinklings to come. Shame the liars and the haters publicly.”
“"I just don't want the RCC to be forced into performing such marriages."
How many times must you be told: IT WON'T BE! Not before it is "forced" to marry divorced people or non-Catholics. It's a deceitful red herring to keep repeating this false, hollow, misleading mantra. It. Is. Not. Happening.”
“Speaking of red herrings, "As for gay marriage, the RCC shouldn't have to perform those marriages" is among the reddest. Not only is the RCC free NOT to perform them, THEY AREN'T EVEN BEING ASKED TO. Just as no one is 'requiring' the RCC to marry divorced persons. Just as no one is 'requiring' Orthodox Judaism to marry inter-faith couples. Just as no one is 'requiring' the 'Church' of the Aryan Nations to marry inter-racial couples.
“I disagree. Institutions survive by adapting and changing. The old foundations are shaky and crumbling more every day - because they are built on lies and hate.”
“ping, you paint yourself with an awful brush when you dismiss your late sister-in-law's LIFE by using the word "lifestyle". That is not "love"; it's diminishing, dismissive, demeaning and debasing.”
“I mean no disrespect when I refer to my late sister-in-law's lifestyle. If you knew the entire story, you'd understand that. She was nothing less than completely respected and loved by us. I never commented on her sexual orientation. I trusted her with my children. I supported her and her partner when they purchased property together. I truly loved her--still do, in fact, and I wish she was still here. How is that diminishing, demeaning or debasing? I have nothing but good memories and kind experiences throughout the time we had her in our lives. I think you're being a bit too sensitive. I'm not one of those anti-gays who think all gays choose to live perverted lives. I respect those who believe they were born that way, and only wish them well. I just see homosexuality differently. I do not hate anyone who is gay--no gay person has ever done anything to hurt or threaten me. It's a shame you can't see honest disagreement as just that--a difference of opinion. Frankly, with the way straights have ruined marriage, we might as well let gay couples show us how to do it right!”
“truth....I must agree with you. I'm ashamed to say I did not "catch" it when I first read the post. My mistake, and I'm not proud to admit that the word "lifestyle" got by me. You are right that it is demeaning. And, my apologies to you.”
“Aaand, The Bible doesn't say much about how homosexuals conduct themselves. It DOES talk about those who "lie with men as they do with women", but that refers, observably, to heterosexual men (you know, the men who DO "lie with women") who get a bit on the side with guys. (Okay, maybe it's referring to bisexuals.) It also speaks of temple/cult prostitution and male-on-male rape - but neither are limited to homosexuals.
“Who gets to do this "approv[ing]" you speak of? Could you please give us the complete list of "THE OFFICIAL 'APPROVED' VERSIONS" of the Bible? That would save us a bit of time - but not much really, since there are SOOO many of them and they do NOT agree.”
I hate to point this out to you, but "the 10 commandments" does not MENTION homosexuality. Now, bearing false witness, THAT it mentions. So please stop it.”
“"I expect there will be churches that accept divorce and churches that accept female clergy and others that accept homosexuals."
As usual, those who speak against equality speak in the wrong tense. Those Churches already exist. And have for decades. Heck, even the Quakers (!!!) not only "accept homosexuals", they even MARRY them. (I know, I know - GASP! HORRORS! et cetera.)
It would help if you gave us the complete list of WWJD - Who Would Jesus Deny? That would save us some time. Thanx in advance.”
“Well Jesus himself said while on earth that divorce is only permissabile if adultery is involved. A church saying its ok in other cases are telling Jesus they arent going to obey him thank you very much.
There are lots of chruches that turn their back on things in the Bible teaches that are difficult things to obey, and have for decades. God never said it would be easy to follow, but he did say he would be there to help us through the hard times”
“Hey dockers, here's a couple of question marks and periods and spaces you 'forgot' (I'm giving you teh benefit of the doubt, here): /, /, /, . . and .
Meanwhile, re: "now the kids have to have the complex of having 2 fathers ,can it get any worse"
Ask any kid who's been adopted by two loving, committed same-gender adult partners and I'm pretty sure s/he'd tell you that it is a LOT "worse" having NO parents at all.
DO BETTER! (Shouldn't be difficult for a 'betterosexual'.)”
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