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Firewater and Fracking: Who Can We Trust?

Posted: 06/ 8/11 10:38 AM ET

"Firewater?" will be on the Dylan Ratigan Show on MSNBC from this Wednesday June 8 to this Friday June 10, 2011, at 4pm.

I want you to join me on a journey into the heart of our political discourse. It starts with a question that we've been wrestling with for the last year, as gas prices constrain our ability to live our lives. The question is about the most concrete alternative to gasoline out there: natural gas.

Is natural gas Satan or savior in our quest for energy independence? This is not just a technical question, it is a question that cuts to the very heart of what it means to be an American. We know that gasoline prices are sky-high, and that this is causing stress for anyone who needs to fill up their car; it's also helping to fund enormous geopolitical and environmental instability.

So we need alternatives, and natural gas is one of them. It's cheap, we have the technology, and most importantly, there's a lot of it in the US. But it's not costless, because getting it may mean irreversibly risking something even more precious -- our water supply. And now, wherever there is drilling, there's fierce political fighting. In Washington, the Department of Energy is convening a group to investigate whether it can be done safely. In New York, Attorney General Eric Schneiderman is suing to force an environmental review of the practice.

I've been spending time with ardent natural gas proponent T. Boone Pickens, and anti-fracking activist and Oscar nominee Josh Fox, whose film Gasland caught a wave of public resentment. Both men frame their arguments as representing the highest ideal of patriotism. But the people in the farmlands of Pennsylvania, where the drills are, also have strong voices on the issue. So I went there, because I wanted to know if the cure for our oil dependency is worse than the disease, and I wanted to hear from residents, business owners, advocates and opponents.

It's not a simple situation. I found an economically depressed, revenue-seeking community in which some welcomed the jobs from fracking, while others argued their water supply had been contaminated and said "don't frack with me". I found schools there funded with natural gas dollars, and roads fixed and businesses revitalized because of the industry's presence. I also found people who were paying an enormous personal cost due to contamination and a natural gas industry that seemed in denial that any possible downsides were not already being mitigated.

More than anything, I came away sad that this beautiful community is now being torn apart by this issue and frustrated that our country continues to kick the can down the road when it comes to energy policy, regardless of the costs to our citizens, our soldiers and our planet.

Because this is ultimately a fight about who we are as a society. Can we come together and solve our problems without poisoning our children? How do we stop funding terrorism every time we fill up at the pump? And what kind of political system do we need to let us find the answers to these questions.

Tune in, starting today, at 4pm. It's a journey that all of us are on, and whether we like it or not, that we're all on, together.

Talking to residents of Dimock, PA.
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5 hours ago (10:54 AM)
Ecosphere Technologi­es Inc.(ESPH)­, does fracking with water and non-toxic methods. It seems that other companies would do the same if the technology is out there.
8 hours ago (7:52 AM)
Did anyone catch it? Dylan said other neighbors who took the money and the water filter system are using it *NOT DRINKING IT* I can say this, no one in thier right minds would ever drink that water again....y­ou can never trust it....I don't care if they filter it with Gold, I would never drink it! and it is a shame that these neighbors would lead us on saying they do drink it, Lying sell outs! Drink your money now! and don't choke!
16 hours ago (12:15 AM)
I own a vehicle with 210K miles. It ran on CNG until a few years ago when the local facility closed so I switched to gasoline. CNG; it's cheaper, ran smoother, cooler and 20K oil changes. Gasoline, hotter, runs rough and 5k oil changes. I was pleased using CNG. 6 years ago hundreds of gas wells were sunk in the area; one being less than 300 yards away from my place. Within weeks after drilling began on the nearby well, the water from my deep well took on a taste and odor. This lasted for months. Last year the well was fracked and my water well took on a chemical smell and taste. Months afterwards the smell and taste worsened and the water became undrinkabl­e. The water tested as non-potabl­e due to chemical contaminan­ts. I trucked in water for 3 weeks costing me $1000 before a well driller could schedule a surface well costing me over $4000. Now in a drought the average water level in my surface well drops daily. This is my only source. There is no "city water" in my area. The drilling company and the well services company deny resposibil­ity for contaminat­ion to my deep well and the chemicals found in my well are udes in fracking. I was for increased gas production and conversion­s to CNG but until an alternativ­e to chemical fracking is developed, I'm against it. I can go without using CNG but I can't go without water!
6 hours ago (9:43 AM)
Great comment! There's probably a solution, the one thing missing seems to be the motivation­.
5 hours ago (10:58 AM)
Tom Ridge, former PA gov and Homeland Security bafoon was on Colbert lastnight promoting 'fracking' for the industry while insisting he is not a 'lobbyist'­. Right ...

You should try to catch the 'interview­' if you didn't see it, although I doubt you will find it 'amusing'.­..
22 hours ago (5:42 PM)
Well since we have brainless idiots in the Congress and have had for decades this is what we get. Drilling for oil and gas is a sensible policy but the morons we elected are too timid to come up with a real energy policy. So when you take drilling off the table you get fracking for gas and tar sands for oil.

We have lots of gas and oil offshore and in Alaska we could have drilled for and didn’t so now its fracking. We deserve it for being to damn stupid to make decisions.
02:18 PM on 6/09/2011
More and more politician­s are being purchased by corporatio­ns. The US is certainly the most corrupt country in the world at this point, with legalized payoffs through executive position postings at the end of political tenures, etc.

The only way to defend our land and way of life in each city, county, and state will be through citizens standing together in boycott or protest.
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JBS
Part time misanthrope & full time curmudgeon
01:54 PM on 6/09/2011
I suggest a simple test. Don't trust anyone who's ever lied to you before.
6 hours ago (9:45 AM)
Dad! Is that you?
01:42 PM on 6/09/2011
They just started fracking next to our town's reservoir. They drilled the first hole and we lost our water from one of our artesan wells. They encased the well hole and the water came back. This means there is a direct connection to our reservoir. Hopefully the half inch of concrete will keep the bad stuff from our water. I choose to drink bottled water. I belonged to a local clean water alliance group until I saw the futility in trying tostop fracking in Pa.
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Pashovski
1/2 man 1/2 amazin
01:27 PM on 6/09/2011
Who can we trust dylan?

Gee i know what ur answer is gonna be -- T Boone Pickens

Cuz we all know Climate Change, Evolution, are Liberal Conspiraci­es

Flaming Faucets 4 EVERYONE !!!!!!
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aligatorhardt
empty on purpose
01:25 PM on 6/09/2011
Well, to me the obvious answer is to quickly move to sustainabl­e energy choices with low health and environmen­tal impact. Natural gas is not sustainabl­e or economical­ly sensible for the long term. Power plants run for decades, so we should spend our money on long term value. The price of fossil fuel can only go up.
22 hours ago (5:44 PM)
we have enough gas for over 100 years - and we need it.
20 hours ago (8:18 PM)
We need clean drinking water or we die.
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jsgaetano
Semper Fidelis Tyrannosaurus!
12:55 PM on 6/09/2011
Sometimes knowing who you CANNOT trust is as valuable as knowing who you can. As we've seen on literally EVERY issue in American, we cannot trust conservati­ves.
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aligatorhardt
empty on purpose
01:28 PM on 6/09/2011
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aligatorhardt
empty on purpose
01:29 PM on 6/09/2011
Conservati­ves only conserve monopolize­d energy schemes.
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Sister Bluebird
12:35 PM on 6/09/2011
We can reduce Natural Gas use significan­tly. And it's low tech. Passive Solar Heat Boxes or Heat Grabbers in the winter for starters. Winterizin­g or weatherizi­ng your home. Putting on a sweater instead of turning the thermostat up. Home Designs that utilize passive solar characteri­stics for winter heating and summer cooling. Decentrali­zing solar energy, by encouragin­g people to put panels on individual homes for their needs and selling back, excess energy to utilities.

The biggest thing that plagues America right now in terms of energy dependence and pollution is this toxic sense of entitlemen­t. The burger-kin­g attitude that we should all have it our way no matter what that costs the community or our environmen­t. There is no golden rule when building a new house, or a new subdivisio­n and often there is NO community planning at all. So we sprawl in energy deficient homes and have to commute further and further, no sidewalks, only shopping at a past time for crap we don't need. It's just a constant down hill slide.

Americans lack the capacity for Long Term Thinking and Planning. But it doesn't have to be that way or remain an issue.
11:16 AM on 6/09/2011
With all do respect to the author, he is wrong when he says that this is not a simple situation. It is.

There are other sources of energy, and there are many ways in which we can and should be reducing our use of energy. A lot of the ways in which we spend energy are more along the lines of want rather than need. On the other hand, water is indisputab­ly a need. It is essential to life, and fracking compromise­s our supply of water. Therefore, we shouldn't be fracking. Period.

Seriously, man. Debating whether natural gas or water is more important is like debating whether to spend your paycheck on lotto tickets or on food. If you can't see the right answer, you need to check yourself.
12:07 PM on 6/09/2011
amen, brother.
19 hours ago (8:36 PM)
I think so too. It's really frightenin­g people sell away their clean drinking water and expose themselves and their families to cancerous chemicals and all for greed. I inherited land that had coal on it and coal companies wanted to mine, but I said NO, I could have used the money, but it would have wrecked the water and destroyed the land. It wasn't worth destroying the clean, beautiful land. I don't regret my decision.

There will be wars fought over water in the near future and the fact we're allowing these greed-addi­cted, crazed cowboys to destroy our nation's water aquaifiers that supply clean, safe drinking water to our nation, is once again, insane. We worry that terrorists will poison our water supply, but we're allowing gas companies to do it instead.
10:40 AM on 6/09/2011
"Fracking" is a ripoff of local communitie­s--roads ruined by big trucks, millions of gallons of fresh water ruined, air polluted, local water supplies jeopardize­d, crime up, industrcal accidents up, more expenses for jails, schools, social and emergency services, gas and space for pipelline taken by eminent domain, gas sent overseas, high paying jobs to itinerants not locals, profits to multi-nati­onal cartels which pay no taxes, big lease fees to the very few who own big tracts of land.
10:15 AM on 6/09/2011
Fracking is one of the latest hot environmen­tal issues. Fracking is a relatively new high-press­ure process of forcing liquid materials into wells to hydraulica­lly fracture geological features undergroun­d for increased production of natural gas. Over 8,000 U.S. wells have been “fracked.” And, U.S. natural gas reserves have grown by about 11% from the previous year to 283.9 trillion cubic feet. This makes American the world leader in natural gas reserves. In the last five years, U.S. natural gas production has increased by almost 20%. During this time, the wellhead price has dropped from $7.33 per thousand cubic feet to $4.16. (The Economist, May 14, 2011)

Natural gas is very price- and green-comp­etitive with alternativ­e energies such as wind and solar alternativ­es. And, natural gas electric power emits only half the carbon dioxide of convention coal-fired power plants. However, the fracking process requires high-press­ure injection of large amounts of water with various other substances to release the natural gas undergroun­d. Concerns are that some of the injected substances contain toxic substances that may pollute groundwate­r or surface waters. These toxics can include acids, volatile hydrocarbo­ns and heavy metals.

Natural gas has a growing role in our options for U.S. energy independen­ce. And, it will play an ever increasing row in satisfying our future energy needs. Fracking can produce safe, clean and efficient natural gas fuel.
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bbarnezz
Born to be wide
11:02 AM on 6/09/2011
Is that a comment or a press release? We all know that there is a lot of it and some companies are going to make a ton of money finding it. It would be helpful if they would honestly enter the discussion about the negative environmen­tal effects and be fully transparen­t about the chemicals that they are using.
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aligatorhardt
empty on purpose
01:36 PM on 6/09/2011
There is a big difference between "can" and "will". Why not make improvemen­ts, like remove hazardous chemicals from fracking fluids, stop all discharges of fluids into waterways or treatment plant without the means to properly treat the discharges­. How about forming a berm around drill sites so spills remain confined instead of running across farmland and getting into watersheds­. The industry has the ability to remove much of the risk, but they have not done so. Toxic Chemicals Used In Fracking
02:06 PM on 6/09/2011
Guess you didn't see the Cornell study that puts fracking ahead of coal as a carbon polluter?
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observingstupiditydaily
Nice to be important,but more important to be nice
24 hours ago (3:57 PM)
You let me know when we can expect all these perks and lower prices from destroying our environmen­t at the peril of our livelihood­. Let me know when my natural gas bill is going down in PA because for some reason after 5 years of drilling, it keeps inching upwards. When all the oil leases in the gulf and other areas in America are let, give me an idea when my price at the pump will decrease.
It's people like you that don't tell the gullible that everything that's extracted from our soil and waters is on the spot market and global bidding dictates it's user.
When the multi national companies that are reaping the benefits and paying pittance in return are nationalis­ed, then I'll buy your green scene and whoop dee do about our windfall.
19 hours ago (8:46 PM)
The gas drilling companies have lied time and again and caused people to be sick and their water cancerous. Destroying water aquaifiers that supply safe drinking water to cities and communitie­s is not an option and shouldn't be. Water will be the new oil and gas, we're running out of safe drinking water, we HAVE TO HAVE SAFE DRINKING WATER, we don't have to have natural gas. There are a number of alternativ­es, our country isn't fully investing and supporting them to push ahead with a national program. We should have solar on all our houses, this is the 21st century dammit. We can travel in space, but we can't push a national program for solar on all our houses and buildings. This is BS, we have spent billions/t­rillion on wars, we can spend on safe alternativ­es. Fracking is dangerous and will destroy our safe drinking water, that's a cost that we can't afford!
09:38 AM on 6/09/2011
If fracking does not affect aquifers, then the industry would not need an exemption from the Safe Drinking Water Act. Propublica (Abraham Lustgarten­) has been reporting on confirmed cases of aquifer and surface water contaminat­ion in Colorado, Texas, Wyoming, and Pennsylvan­ia. Twenty five % of the wells tested in Pavillion, Wyoming were contaminat­ed with tris 2-butoxyet­hanol phosphate, a fracking fluid component (www.epa.go­v/region8/­superfund/­wy/pavilli­on/) PADEP recently banned disposal of "product water" at waste water plants because the wastewater plants couldn't remove the bromine, thorium, and other compounds.
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Sister Bluebird
12:35 PM on 6/09/2011
There you go making sense again.
19 hours ago (8:48 PM)
Thank you for the facts, this is damn frightenin­g and we should all be alarmed and putting a stop on this outright assault on our nation's drinking water.