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God Is, and Remains, With Us in Joplin

Posted: 06/ 1/11 09:30 AM ET

I have told the story many times since Sunday, a little over a week now, about Peace Lutheran Church, a congregation of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA) in Joplin, Mo. The church building was completely leveled by a tornado there May 22.

I have been told by a therapist-pastor that sharing that story is a way of living with guilt over what happened in Joplin and to me.

As the interim pastor of Peace Lutheran, I stay in Joplin only three days a week, commuting from my home in Kansas City, Mo. So I rode out the tornado in the motel basement. The motel was south of the storm's path.

But my therapist-pastor friend was right. I was experiencing what I had only often heard about and always thought I would never do: feel guilty about being alive.

I kept wondering, "Why did I decide not to go back to the church building?"

After seeing the destruction of the church, I am absolutely positive that I would not be writing this reflection today if I had gone back.

I'm dealing with this guilt. But as the days continue, I find that there are many things that just need to be done.

The Monday morning after the storm, as a number of us were walking through the rubble of the church building, we wondered: "Where are we going to hold worship on Sunday (May 29)?"

We decided to meet in the parking lot to let the world know what the people of Joplin know: we are still a congregation.

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God is and will always be with us.

The service was chaotic, and it was spiritual. A number of newspapers, magazines, radio and television stations -- local and national -- came. I was wired up to six different stations. I don't even know who they all were, although I knew ABC, NBC and CNN were now part of my body.

The rains had finally left, so the weather was beautiful except for the 35-mile-an-hour winds.

But most importantly, God was there. You could just feel it among the 100 people who attended worship that Sunday morning.

The service itself, along with music (we had a keyboard loaned to us, hooked up to a battery, and a flutist), the prayers, the sermon and Holy Communion gave people a chance to celebrate and weep over lost homes, lost jobs, lost friends and families.

God was there.

Where does Peace Lutheran Church go from here? At this moment, we still don't have a place to worship for Sunday, June 5.

We know the parking lot is not going to work Sunday after Sunday. We have had two congregations offer to let us worship with them. But we have not yet had the time to sit down and decide where or how we might accept one of these generous offers. We are meeting tonight to begin the process.

We have no hymnals but have been offered some. No musical instruments, although we have been offered an organ. We have no risographs, copy machines, etc. We have lost all the past bulletins that would help us remember how we did certain worship services.

We have lost many other things that we just took for granted would be there every Sunday morning for us.

But what we do have are committed and dedicated members who are ready to do whatever is necessary for us to move forward.

What we do have is the ELCA Central States Synod in Kansas City, Mo., and ELCA members and congregations from all over the United States who have pledged to help us recover.

And, what we do have is the power and love of our God, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit.

How can you not make it all happen when you have that kind of back-up team?

To God be the glory! Amen.

 
I have told the story many times since Sunday, a little over a week now, about Peace Lutheran Church, a congregation of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA) in Joplin, Mo. The church buil...
I have told the story many times since Sunday, a little over a week now, about Peace Lutheran Church, a congregation of the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA) in Joplin, Mo. The church buil...
 
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2 hours ago (1:10 AM)
Religion (faith without evidence) has caused more death and destructio­n in this world than any tornado has ever done. Yes, God was in Joplin and he was licking his chops. Because among all those innocent dead people there had to be a few gays, lesbians, atheists and maybe a couple of Muslims in the mix. No doubt, it was all worth it.
5 hours ago (10:18 PM)
may God continue to bless your recovery efforts.
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TYRANNASAURUS
people don't taste good
9 hours ago (6:30 PM)
God Is, and Remains, With Us in Joplin ..........­...

FABULOUS NEWS......­...... so tell him to wave his magic wand and put everything back the way it was.... dead people included.
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bbriani3842
Any day you wake up breathing is a good one.
9 hours ago (6:01 PM)
God wasn't there ... humanity was there ...
10 hours ago (4:40 PM)
The world is a place full of large and small injustices , full of death, suffering and despair. Much of this is man-made, most of it is not. Some of it is avoidable, some of it is intrinsic to the reality of the universe. All of it, from the pain of a small child's skinned knee to the death and destructio­n wrought by a tornado, could be avoided effortless­ly by a beneficent creator.

The fact is that the universe resembles nothing like what one would expect if it had been created and administra­ted by a loving, caring deity. In truth, the reality appears to be exactly the opposite, a universe with no purposeful direction, no loving influence. Existence does not look to have been mandated for any distinct purpose, and certainly not for the benefit of humanity. Any omnipotent deity responsibl­e for it is either quite indifferen­t to human suffering or possesses definition­s of love and caring not known in any human language. To insist on believing otherwise is either the height of ignorance or the height of hubris -- probably both.
17 hours ago (9:46 AM)
Why does one's belief in God bring out all the "holier than thou" (pun intended) non believers? I've read many criticisms from those who think religion is nothing more than fantasy and the excuse is that those who believe in God are always trying to force feed their beliefs on others. Complete BS judging from these comments. This pastor is not trying to force feed anybody into believing what he believes, yet those who don't believe in God are being just as critical as ever. If you don't believe in God, fine, that's your decision, but why do you feel the need to be so critical to those that do?
16 hours ago (11:03 AM)
Because we find it deeply offensive to offer thanks and praise to a God who stood by and did nothing while hundreds of people were killed. "God is with us"? Tell that to those who had to bury family members.

And in a situation like this, how is a god who is supposedly with you any different than one who isn't? Is hundreds dead the best your all powerful buddy can do?
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CodyGirl
Truth will make us free.
13 hours ago (2:11 PM)
Everyone dies, either as a result of natural causes or by actions of another human being or him/hersel­f. Unless you believe that all death is unjust, you can't single out death as a result of a natural event such as a tornado as a special kind of injustice that God should have intervened to prevent. Show me the guarantee of any newborn baby that s/he will live to a ripe old age or else is entitled to cry "foul" against the same God who gave him/her life in the first place.
16 hours ago (11:13 AM)
Maybe because people feel compelled to use their god as a reason for passing any number of laws that we find deplorable­?
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CodyGirl
Truth will make us free.
11 hours ago (4:08 PM)
People work to get laws passed for many reasons, some of them legitimate
16 hours ago (11:24 AM)
God being nothing more than a fantasy has nothing to do with whether or not believers try to force their beliefs on others. God is a fantasy because He is quite obviously man-made. Being critical of people who sell BS as truth is just an attempt to be a responsibl­e fellow human being.
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CodyGirl
Truth will make us free.
10 hours ago (5:22 PM)
You are entitled to your opinion about what others believe but it is sheer arrogance to think that you are being "responsib­le" when you mock
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Arbutus
Ramble on.
8 hours ago (7:04 PM)
I also see plenty of holier than thou attitudes on the other side of the fence. Each side feels that their way is the correct one. I'm sure there would be critical comments from your side on an article favoring atheism. It's a public forum, and you're going to get all kinds of comments.
3 hours ago (11:46 PM)
You've made a very good point. The real unscrupulo­us characters are the non believers who start trouble. They want to deny Christians their right to their own conviction­s. Sadly, they believe they are right.
18 hours ago (9:27 AM)
Religion is a crutch for the feeble minded; the religious prove that with every one of their posts.
An inability to accept the realities of life (and death) leads them to accept religious nonsense.
Try focusing on embracing the world we actually live in while trying to improve it, rather than worrying about a wished for eternal afterlife which is a primary feature of the faith-base­d cults. We'll all be better off. The world's religions serve as a anchor tied to humanity as it tries to swim forward.
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CodyGirl
Truth will make us free.
13 hours ago (2:13 PM)
What does atheism have to offer humanity? Show us the great atheist visionarie­s who are leading us into a brighter future. I don't know of a single one.
11 hours ago (3:35 PM)
Dawkins, Sagan, Tyson, Harris. I'll take those guys over Hitler, bin Laden, George W, Pat Roberts, the Catholic Church, Joseph Smith, Scientolog­ists...Nex­t time you go to the hospital for a vaccine, thank one of those pesky atheist scientists who helped cure a disease, instead of the priest who simply prayed.

And you'll have to refresh my memory--wh­en was the last time an atheist waged a holy war, held an Inquisitio­n, owned slaves, defended racism or sexism, got caught in a sex scandal, or swindled his flock out of their life savings?
11 hours ago (3:54 PM)
Good point. Atheists aren't motivated in that direction because without the peace and love of Christ there is no inspiratio­n. I wish they would show some manners and stop disparagin­g Christians every time an article so much as mentions God. Then again, you have to consider the source.
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bbriani3842
Any day you wake up breathing is a good one.
9 hours ago (6:06 PM)
We work to keep religion out of public schools and public policies ...

You can rest assured that if your daughter were arrested, she won't be subjected to a "virginity test".

You're welcome.
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Arbutus
Ramble on.
8 hours ago (7:06 PM)
Atheism offers humanity a way of life free from superstiti­on.
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TheSojourner
Planning my own blog. Watch this space.
22 hours ago (5:29 AM)
Those who have been indoctrina­ted, find it very difficult to think rationally about such tragedies as Joplin or the Japanese earthquake­s, Tsunamis and resulting nuclear dangers from the damaged reactors. However, they will still insist God is loving, kind and good. never mind the mass deaths of his own creatures from the flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, the willingnes­s of Abraham to kill his own son for this wonderful God. Many will thank God they survived, even though they lost everything­, but God was there. They forget the ones that didn't survive. As if God plays favorites, don't you think? What did the dead and maimed do to deserve their fates that you survivors didn't? This God seems very arbitrary to me. I'd like to say much more, but I will leave that for another time and place.
whirlpool
Save the unicorns!
17 hours ago (10:27 AM)
I skimmed through the OT again the other day since I have not looked at it for awhile. I was startled about how often the characters in the various books ask god where he is, complain about him being AWOL or hidden or otherwise unavailabl­e for help. When he did show up he hid behind nature in whirlwinds­, brush fires, plagues of various sorts. The authors of the book themselves were on the verge of ditching the old man and going directly to nature but they just couldn't quite do it. The fact is we have only nature and it is both beautiful and terrifying­.
23 hours ago (3:57 AM)
There was a storm in Penola, South Australia, birthplace of Saint Mary McKillop, just before the celebratio­ns of her sainthood. It only blew down half the church. According to locals, that was God's way of saying how pleased he was - he didn't knock over the whole church.
01:47 AM on 6/02/2011
If it helps you get through the day, fantastic.

If it keeps your people feeling positive and encourages them to pull the little town back together, even better.

But please Mr. Pape, show the restraint to not use your louder-tha­n-normal voice to affect my life!

Thanx in advance
17 hours ago (9:48 AM)
A little sensitive, are we? I didn't see him using his "louder-th­an-normal voice" to affect your life.
16 hours ago (11:14 AM)
Well technicall­y speaking, you can't use a voice at all when communicat­ing through text.
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Herkv
Caught in a loop . . .
12:31 AM on 6/02/2011
If God is "still" in Joplin, maybe you should ask him to leave before he makes a bigger mess.
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Vincent Van Der Hyde
The truth will set you free.
12:18 AM on 6/02/2011
a la Pat Roberts,
I want to know what Joplin did that was so evil that God hit it with that tornado?
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bayonet division
Choose this day whom you will serve.
01:25 AM on 6/02/2011
You should ask Pat Roberts this; He says he causes it to rain on the just and the unjust.
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CodyGirl
Truth will make us free.
12:01 AM on 6/02/2011
Many posts in this discussion reflects the common fallacy among atheists that every natural event that causes a large number of deaths should cause a crisis of faith among believers. Nonsense.
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jerryengelbach
Working class heritage
12:40 AM on 6/02/2011
Then please explain why a natural disaster would cause Bill Pape to say "To God be the glory"? The glory for what?
24 hours ago (3:31 AM)
Glory to God because they have been given another day in which they can live, and move, and have their being in God, their Savior. Jesus saves :)
23 hours ago (4:04 AM)
It's true, these events do not appear to cause any difference in faith.

Atheists cannot understand this, as it makes no sense. Either God is responsibl­e for the event and therefore evil, or not responsibl­e, and then negligent for not protecting his flock, or not involved in any way and therefore irrelevant­.
whirlpool
Save the unicorns!
17 hours ago (10:31 AM)
A lot of people can't understand it -- not just atheists. I am not an industrial strength atheist but I can't understand it either. Nature created man, man created god therefore nature created god. Now just drop the middle man and go directly to nature.
15 hours ago (11:41 AM)
That's why the Bible calls it "the peace that surpasses all understand­ing." Jesus said the peace He gives is not the world's peace which is dependent on circumstan­ces.
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CodyGirl
Truth will make us free.
13 hours ago (2:20 PM)
Atheist can't understand God because they don't believe in God. Therefore, they don't have a relationsh­ip with God where, like believers, we seek to understand the character of God. These same natural events that cause destructio­n
12 hours ago (2:53 PM)
God can't pick and choose, save some but not others, that would be either arbitrary or preferenti­al. So, it's an all or nothing propositio­n. God either saves us from everything or saves us from nothing.

Saving us from everything would instantly render our lives meaningles­s. It's up to us to invent dikes, dams, Doppler weather radar, earthquake resistant houses and to not play with matches in the woods. We can't prevent everything but we can at least apply our imaginatio­n and energy to the effort and it's that effort that makes life worth living.

On the other hand, saving us from nothing merely means we're subject to the same laws of nature that God imposed on everything else in the universe. That may be painful, but it's hardly evil, irresponsi­ble or negligent.

As for irrelevanc­e, God saves by sending us His sages and prophets in the hopes we'll take their wisdom to heart and allow it to lead us to a better life in the face of a sometimes wonderful but also sometimes terrible reality.
11 hours ago (3:34 PM)
Atheists can't understand it because they don't look at the world through the lens of faith. You need to stop being afraid to indulge that little voice in the back of your mind that tells you God isn't real. Stop the rationaliz­ations. Stop thinking that the more you stuff the cotton of faith into your ears that you will be a better person. You can be good without a myth. You can find meaning. You are doing it already, but you are using a crutch. Drop the crutch and walk on your own.
17 hours ago (9:32 AM)
Natural disasters fly in the face of intelligen­t design, in the idea of an all powerful all loving God being in control. If God gets credit when things go right, he also gets the blame when things go horribly wrong.
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terramartom
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11:59 PM on 6/01/2011
TAX all religion.
whirlpool
Save the unicorns!
17 hours ago (10:31 AM)
It would solve the deficit problem almost overnight.
11:20 PM on 6/01/2011
"God was there."

Prove it.
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CodyGirl
Truth will make us free.
11:59 PM on 6/01/2011
No one can "prove" God exists. You know this. But neither can you prove that God does not exist.
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Vincent Van Der Hyde
The truth will set you free.
12:17 AM on 6/02/2011
If there is no evidence for the existence of 'something­',
why would anybody believe in that 'something­'?
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jerryengelbach
Working class heritage
12:42 AM on 6/02/2011
There's no way anyone can prove that something doesn't exist. It's up to the claimant to prove that something does exist. Absent that proof, there's no reason to believe it. Merely asserting something is not proof.
01:06 AM on 6/02/2011
Luckily, the burden of proof rests with the alleging party, not the skeptical party.

Again, "prove it" is how I respond to any invocation of a god. If they want to be obstinate, I can equal them.
18 hours ago (9:31 AM)
The burden of proof is on the party making the claim that something DOES exist.
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bbriani3842
Any day you wake up breathing is a good one.
9 hours ago (6:12 PM)
No, but you are given a significan­t number of reasons to doubt the existence of any god ... and yet ....
17 hours ago (10:01 AM)
Why does anybody have to prove it to you? You obviously don't believe in God and have no intentino to, so leave people that do believe be. Nobody is trying to force anything on you.