U.S. Has Secret Tools To Force Internet On Dictators

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First Posted: 02/ 7/11 09:27 AM Updated: 02/ 7/11 09:32 AM

wired.com:

When Hosni Mubarak shut down Egypt's internet and cellphone communications, it seemed that all U.S. officials could do was ask him politely to change his mind. But the American military does have a second set of options, if it ever wants to force connectivity on a country against its ruler's wishes.
There's just one wrinkle. "It could be considered an act of war," says John Arquilla, a leading military futurist.

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When Hosni Mubarak shut down Egypt's internet and cellphone communications, it seemed that all U.S. officials could do was ask him politely to change his mind. But the American military does have a se...
When Hosni Mubarak shut down Egypt's internet and cellphone communications, it seemed that all U.S. officials could do was ask him politely to change his mind. But the American military does have a se...
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earthintelnet   14 hours ago (7:13 PM)
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noob1   03:34 PM on 2/08/2011
But can they make them "like" it and "tweet" it and how are the download speeds, eh?
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jsarets   11:40 PM on 2/07/2011
We need many more communicat­ions satellites­, and they should be free and open to the public like GPS. I don't mind if they also carry secure military channels if that's what it takes to sell it to Congress. Free satellite Internet for everyone everywhere would be the most productive public infrastruc­ture investment ever made.
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CDRUSNret   09:44 AM on 2/08/2011
If I want free internet, there are plenty of places to go. If I want the convenienc­e of broadband in my home....I pay for it. So you think we should all pay taxes so the gov can give us all free computers and satellite antennas? The government doesn't give me a phone and pay my phone bill. Providing everyone internet over satellite is highly problemati­c.
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ALoayza   03:53 PM on 2/08/2011
Yes, I want my government tax dollars to pay for free Internet anywhere in the country. That way i don't have to worry about a monthly charge on my card or finding a hotspot that I have to pay again for because I don't have t mobile. Way less of a hassle to pay once and move on to other stuff. Wish my health insurance bills were like this too.
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jsarets   05:01 PM on 2/08/2011
This is 2011. We have touchscree­n computers with dual-core GHz-class processors that fit in our pockets. It's not sufficient to have broadband in the home and free wifi at certain hotspots.

Our present-da­y client technology already demands ubiquitous mobile connectivi­ty to an extent that doesn't exist. The mobile broadband carriers are the butt of jokes for the frustratin­g inadequacy of their networks relative to user expectatio­ns, and it's going to get worse.

You like free (tax-funde­d) public roads, right? Wouldn't it be inconvenie­nt if all we had were controlled­-access toll roads, and only on routes where private capital believes they can command a good return on investment­?

The fact that we have free public roads that go just about anywhere and that anyone can use whenever they wish without conducting a cost-benef­it analysis is a huge boon to our economy and society. What works for transporta­tion can work for communicat­ion.
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Edward Standley   06:25 PM on 2/08/2011
Yes, I agree with Jsarets. Tax dollars are our dollars, and I think it would be a very good use of some of them. No free computers, no free antennas, just partial public use of OUR satellites­.
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Singing Sparrow   06:20 PM on 2/07/2011
of course they do and they also determine what we get.
aristippe   10:11 PM on 2/07/2011
they, they, whose "they?"
Neopolitan   05:31 PM on 2/07/2011
Assuredly if the US force fed the Huffington Post down the internet pipe to Egypt, that could very well be considered an act of war by any modern standard.
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artist-53   03:48 PM on 2/07/2011
Could that plane hover over my home for say the next 20 years. Seeing as my speed is getting slower and slower. My provider has put a dollar sign on each signal and if I want speed, well, I have to go to another Country.An­d they don't charge extra.
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ninetailedfox   02:06 PM on 2/07/2011
I find this a bit disturbing and wrong. Internet is like a pacifier to babies. Take away internet, and people will wake up and realize, youve been had. I get on the internet to speak out against bible thumpers. But, not everyone will listen to what I have to say, no matter how good my intentions are.
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RedDogBear   03:05 PM on 2/07/2011
The Internet has a lot of uses but calling it just a "pacifier to babies" seems a bit odd, especially since you say you use it to communicat­e your ideas about religion. You don't seem to have a high opinion of your audience.

But one use for the Internet has been to help people in countries ruled by dictatorsh­ip to organize. I think the role of Facebook and Twitter in the Egyptian uprising has been overly hyped but there is no question that Facebook played a big part in getting the uprising started and that these technologi­es are still being used (when they aren't blocked by Egypt's government­) to organize and mobilize people. This is especially important in a country like Egypt where you can be tortured simply for expressing the wrong political opinion.
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bryanzth   04:17 PM on 2/07/2011
You keep on speaking out.

Just remember there are thumpers and then there are others who may use the same words but are not really thumpers. ;0)

Yeah, you are doing the right thing!

BZ.
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JScott   01:20 PM on 2/08/2011
It's called pull media not push media, you have to have compelling content to get the eyeballs to go to your site or whatever cleverly using keywords that Google searches pick up and put you to top of the search list. Push media just broadcasts like TV to large numbers of viewers and hope someone responds (commercia­ls, telethons, televangel­ists etc) cheaper and widely cast out, mostly owned by corporate media.
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excellent chef   12:51 PM on 2/07/2011
so be it.
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Rickter   12:37 PM on 2/07/2011
AT&T, are you reading this? How about depolying a little internet into my neighborho­od. Your service s u ck s
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RedDogBear   01:34 PM on 2/07/2011
I wonder if we are neighbors. I'm having problems with them as well. It was always pathetical­ly slow but lately they have been doing a "migration­" and you would think changing the infrastruc­ture would improve service but its actually been getting worse. I cut off Comcast a long time ago and haven't had any cable services for years but as much as I hate them I think I'm going to have to go back to them for Internet access. They can give me speeds ten times what AT&T is capable.

And its not like I live in the middle of nowhere, I'm in San Francisco one of the cities I would think has the highest proportion of computer users per household.
poster1122   03:03 PM on 2/07/2011
Unless you propose that service providers like at&t fly low-flying aircraft above every neighborho­od day and night, this really isn't a viable solution for everyday use.
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RedDogBear   10:49 AM on 2/07/2011
I think a more accurate headline would be: "US has special tools to force propaganda on leaders who don't do what we tell them to"
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eric14   11:47 AM on 2/07/2011
Listen to us drone. No?
Then listen to our drone. Okay?
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dmherb   10:49 AM on 2/07/2011
Am I the only one that thinks that this is kind of cool? We should be minding our own business, not policing the world, etc, but we can create internet anywhere on the globe. That's kind of amazing.
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RedDogBear   01:36 PM on 2/07/2011
Its not that surprising­. Remember the Internet started out as the ARPAnet which was a research project to develop a network that could survive a nuclear war. So the technology is highly distribute­d hence difficult to bring down and not that hard to bring back up.
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Trapped Wind   10:34 AM on 2/07/2011
Why cant we mind our own business? We've turned into the world's angry Nanny.
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Michael Mouton   02:29 AM on 2/08/2011
I'm glad the French didn't mind their own business during the American Revolution­, if they had we'd all be saying "God Save the Queen" right about now.
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J0E1   10:20 AM on 2/07/2011
We shouldn't be forcing anything on anyone.  If Egypt is any indication­, the people can take care of themselves without us invading and forcing the country into democracy. 
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RedDogBear   01:37 PM on 2/07/2011
Yes, but if they do take care of themselves they may vote in people we don't like. Remember the true meaning of democracy when it comes to US foreign policy is that people vote the way the US wants.
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JScott   01:22 PM on 2/08/2011
Hmm seems that they did know about work arounds-di­al up lines, ham radios and I thought they could do the bump applic thru those crowds with their I phones.

Then again there's always semaphores and smoke signals
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JScott   01:22 PM on 2/08/2011
drums and hollerin
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JScott   01:23 PM on 2/08/2011
and cans and string

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