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June 8, 2011 by RawmeatCowboy
Filed Under: Nintendo in general, 3DS, Wii U
The following information comes from Masahiro Sakurai...
- "We really shouldn't have announced it for the general public at this timing, but since we have to assemble staff, we made the notice. The future will change depending on the strength of the gathered developers."
- development won't start until Kid Icarus: Uprising is complete
- Sakurai hasn't started thinking about characters
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"development won't start until Kid Icarus: Uprising is complete"
So early, it hasn't even started yet!
and cue wishlists.
I was thinking that as well. I wonder if he'll make it in his own franchise as well. I think The Rolling Western is looking quite good.
Anyways, what I'm thinking is that the announcement was simply a means to introduce the idea of the connection between the console and the handheld. Not the most elegant way to do so, especially cause we don't know how they will connect, but just like the rest of the info given, it's mostly just to give out ideas about the console rather than actually show what it can do.
I'll second that..and if they run into online issues or whatnot 2015.
2 years..that's why i said if they run into any problems it's gonna be 2015+
Are you saying that the creator of smash brothers didn't do HIS game the way he wanted to be?
Smash Brothers started, is and will always be a party game, he never ever thought about it as a competitive game, you melee fans should stop doing this comments, something went wrong with melee that suddenly everyone thought of it as a "hardcore" fighter.
On topic: HAHA, that sakurai, I bet that this happened yesterday at the night.
Iwata: Hey dude, why don't you make a new smash for the new console
Sakurai: Uhm, I don't really know
Iwata: C'mon, you can do whatever you want.
Sakurai: alright
A few hours later
A new smash brothers for the 3DS and the WiiU
Sakurai: WHAT!
Iwata: (laughs)
I can tell you this might be for the psvita price announcement...don't take my word but I got a feeling this came out because of it.
Sakurai did just fine. it's the fans that are crazy. Utilizing the Melee's physics to the extreme, creating advanced techniques like wavedashing, creating an entire advanced metagame, and the getting mad when Brawl comes out and doesn't pay any attention to that stuff since it was an unintentional result of Melee's gameplay in the first place.
Brawl was a great game in terms of doing what they wanted to do with it: expand on the zany gameplay that was intended by design for melee before advanced players started creating this higher level metagame.
Yeah, it'd be nice if Sakurai began recognizing such techniques and catering to them, but you can't say he lost his touch. What he understood smash to be, he expanded, and did so well. It's just that the advanced players have a completely different perspective on the franchise. If Sakurai can get in touch with this perspective, he's perfectly capable of delivering what advanced players want.
I'm sure he's reading this right now and is anxious to hear your suggestions.
Still a good idea to announce it though, I think. Gets people all good and hyped up.
GoNintendo works my nerves, but honestly? Comments that speak this much truth make me wanna bro-fist.
Who can wait 'till the next E3 now? XD
EDIT: Oh, and of course, the most important one, Geno.
@kmc2482
Yeah! I bet Skyward Sword would have already come out if they had just reused absolutely everything from Twilight Princess, made the art style a little different, and added some changes to the dungeons here and there. Why didn't they do that?
--or they can just avoid the single player altogether (not counting the classic mode) and just get that multiplayer done.
*Bro-fists*
@kmc2482
This, also, put gordon freeman and travis touchdown and I'm sold.
Dude! That would be wicked! Imagine if Travis Touchdown just split Yoshi in half in the middle of Dreamland! This has to happen. Make it happen Nintendo, show that you're truly hardcore.
It's Pikmin 3 all over again.
And I don't know why people are surprised that it hasn't been started. Iwata basically said flat out that it wasn't going to start until Kid Icarus was out.
@Orian
Like Dinosaur Rex said, it wasn't Sakurai that was the problem, it was the fans that had been playing Melee for 6+ years and turning it into a competitive fighter that it was never intended to be.
It was a party game. It still IS a party game. But it masquerades as a fighting game. Do you think they would design a serious fighter to accomodate 4 people? No. It's supposed to be mindless fun with random situations. Not technical skills on an even playing field with no random luck values or MONEY ON THE LINE.
Not that there's anything wrong with playing like that.
But that was never what the series was intended. The problem is that players SHAPED Melee into something it wasn't, and then they were mad that Brawl was developed like SSB64 and Melee were intended, and not how they had morphed the game over 6 years.
Yea I had that feeling..it's odd to that if pikmin 3 is so close, why not show it off? they know there is people waiting...tells me there is something wrong with it they can't fix yet, or it's not making a smooth transition like they saw.
I hope the new game turns out great. ^_^
I think Brawl took about 2-3 years maybe since I remember Nintendo opening up some new offices in Japan to start on the game before the Wii even launched.
anyway, some must-have features i (and others i'm sure) thought of:
Actual alternate costumes in addition to pallet swaps (it bugged me that only Wario got this.)
More detailed stage editor
Change the Y button from Jump to a new attack button, effectivley increasing the number of attacks each character has
Maybe some kind of quest creation mode?
allow more customization for online matches (let us do stock matches dammit!)
You're a little late, I covered most of them a few posts ago. I definitely forget some though, like Claus, various obscure Japanese-only characters, more or less every character to ever be in a Fire Emblem game, and Blaziken.
I'm more worried about characters. They've already hit all the classic characters they could last game. Olimar was their last new IP character that could work in Smash. R.O.B. is in and so were Meta Knight, Dedede from Kirby and Diddie Kong. Who can they add now? Trixie Kong, a Goomba? I can't think of any classic characters left. Just one off characters like Midna and Rosalina. They need more third- party support, my dream team would be:
Mega-Man (started on NES)
Cloud (Perfect opponent to Link)
Sora (Wildcard)
Tails (Sonic's already in)
Travis Touchdown (One of the few characters who started on the Wii platform and starred in somewhat successful series of games)
Either way, Smash Bros.! Cool stuff, even if we won't get it for a few more years now. X'P
i was at genesis 1 and while almost everyone was watching melee while only like 20 were watching the brawl matches going on. cant wait for genesis 2 later this summer. smash players from around the US and world pay good money to go but i live 2 miles away from the venue.
life cant get any sweeter.
on a related note i think smash 4 being announced crashed smashboards
Funny considering that you had to reach the last level to unlock all characters.
Also, I don't care more customization for online matches, just less laggy online matches
OK but people, you should calm down. The game hasn't even started development yet. And surely Nintendo won't talk about Smash until... a long time.
Oh and I love Brawl, and agree on the morphed Melee you all talk about.
exactly. i played it once, went through the stages to unlock Wolf, Jigglypuff, and Toon Link, and never again. i never said i only played it part way through.
The point was that he didn't replay it, and he didn't go back through the levels to capture all of the enemy/boss trophies, get 100% or unlock the other cutscenes you get for making different decisions (like the Lucario fight, or which Princess you save).
@KingZora64
Brawl is an amazing game.
@Hackernamedshodan
I'm still convinced it isn't real.
If we don't see so much as a logo or screenshot by the end of E3, I am still convinced that the game is fake.
The fact they said "NO PIKMIN DISCUSSION" at the round table initially. I mean, really? It's like they are treating Pikmin as if it's EarthBound. And THEY'RE the ones that announced the game (or rather, Miyamoto, who is the only one ever talking about it).
Moved to WiiU and far in development. I'll believe it when I see it. A game announced in 2008 (3 years ago) and we still have no proof it exists, and now it's not even on the console it was supposedly for originally.
I'm not having +10 to the total roster of the previous title again - so here's to 50 total in SSB4!
Really this was, "We got nothing for this fall, but by announcing it, you won't notice."
This year's press conference is sitting worse with me now that I have slept on it for a night.
Only if the entire game isn't revealed by it before release, sure.
He's probably getting tired of being jerked around in E3 announcements.
Sakurai: "SHUT UP IWATA!!!!!!!!"
I KNEW they haven't even started the development.
-Better online
-More third party characters
-Less unfair randomness like tripping and overpowered items.
I would buy it for just about any price.
Also. Some people around here need to learn some reading comprehension skills:
""We really shouldn't have announced it for the general public at this timing, but since we have to assemble staff, we made the notice."
They decided to announce it early (even though nothing is ready to show off) so they could get a notice out there that they were looking for staff for the project.
Oh. And to the Sony Fanboy who has been trolling around here for some time now. It had NOTHING to do with anything announced about Vita. No one is scared of Sony anymore. They are in last place in both the console and handheld segment. Microsoft and Nintendo don't need to react to what they are doing, because everything they have done for the last few years has landed them in last place.
Also I hope the 3DS version and Wii U version have exclusive characters and stages for each!
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