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Alabama House Passes Bill That Maintains Teacher Tenure But Dilutes Its Protections

First Posted: 05/26/11 03:18 PM ET Updated: 05/26/11 07:43 PM ET

Students At Fs Ervin Elementary School In Alabama

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NEW YORK -- On Wednesday evening, Alabama became the latest state to pass a law that makes it easier to fire teachers.

The Alabama House of Representatives voted to pass the Students First Act, which does not do away entirely with teacher tenure but does streamline the teacher dismissal process. Alabama Gov. Robert Bentley (R) signed the bill on Thursday.

"Tonight's vote is a victory for the students, teachers and taxpayers of Alabama," House Speaker Mike Hubbard said, according to ABC News. "There's no question that the quality of our teachers is at the highest level it has ever been. Now, Alabama is one step closer to having a tenure law that is as professional as our teachers."

The bill keeps both tenure and the timeline for achieving it in place for teachers but eliminates the lengthy federal arbitration process for firing tenured teachers. Under the new law, teachers would be unable to appeal layoffs. School districts and community colleges would be empowered to terminate teachers "at any time" and for various reasons, such as a reduction in the number of positions available, incompetency, and "immorality."

Language about firing teachers based on student achievement was removed from an earlier version of the bill.

While the Alabama bill does make it easier to fire teachers, it doesn't go as far as other bills passed around the country that tie performance to hiring and firing. States ranging from Illinois to Florida have now passed laws linking teacher evaluations and pay to their students' test scores. Last week, the New York state Board of Regents voted to allow districts to use state standardized test scores to measure up to 40 percent of teacher evaluations under a new rubric.

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Jonah Edelman founded Stand for Children, a lobbying organization with roots 11 states that most recently helped push the education bill through congress in Illinois. While Stand for Children had no hand in the Alabama bill, Edelman lauded its premise.

"The Students First Act is in line with a promising national trend of treating teachers like professionals by making performance a key factor in decisions related to their employment," he told The Huffington Post. "That said, it's much less sweeping than bills we've championed ... in that it doesn't appear to tie the granting of tenure to demonstrated effectiveness and doesn't appear to require that performance be a primary factor in layoff decisions." He added that the bill lacks important details about the appeals process and standards for calculating student achievement.

Bradley Byrne, a former state senator who introduced the bill in 2005 and now runs the Alabama Reform Foundation, described the current version of the bill as "modest" in a phone interview with The Huffington Post.

Byrne said after he introduced the bill, it faced tremendous pushback from the Alabama Education Association, the state teachers union. The recent Republican electoral sweep into the state legislature enabled it to pass, he said. Lawmakers defeated several Democratic amendments to the bill.

Byrne said Alabama's teacher disciplinary process, which is conducted by federal arbitrators, made his job more difficult when he served as chancellor of the state's two-year college system. "Alabama has one of the most difficult tenure laws in the country that in essence makes it virtually impossible to displace an education employee even if it's for cause," he said. He pointed to cases in which he couldn't fire a teacher who had sex with a student or a professor who was found to have fabricated his credentials.

AEA members are flooding the governor's office with phone calls, said Sally Howell, executive director of the Alabama Association of School Boards.

"Every student has a right to a quality teacher in a classroom," Howell said. "This bill will enable school leaders to ensure that happens in every classroom. The current law is broken, and it needed to be fixed."

Phone calls placed to the AEA were not immediately returned.

CORRECTION: An earlier version of this article relied on a premature version of the bill that contained language related to firing teachers based on student achievement. The new law streamlines the teacher dismissal process but does not tie firing to student achievement.

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dbrett480
9 minutes ago (6:12 PM)
The system must be changed if school leadership can't "fire a teacher who had sex with a student or a professor who was found to have fabricated his credential­s." Teachers are put in a position of trust, if that trust is violated they should be fired without having to go through an unnecessar­ily long arbitratio­n process.
18 hours ago (12:43 AM)
What about profession­al pay for teachers along with that? If they want to treat teachers like Wall st. bankers or tech people, paying and keeping 'the most talented' then why not pay them in line with that and make the pay competitiv­e?

Teaching has become degraded to a crap job, with low pay, tons of 'accountab­ility' to everybody including random guy on the street. I mean I am surprised they do not poll cats and dogs about what kind of job teachers do, as everybody and their brother already feels they are are an expert about judging and evaluting teachers.

As a teacher every body talks crap about you and the work you do [wanna use another word here but editing] and they do not want to pay the people who teach their kids. Who the h would want to choose the teaching field?
03:38 PM on 5/27/2011
I'm quite confused by this article. It is filled to the brim with lots of people's (mostly those in favor of the law) opinions about the law, but offers virtually no informatio­n about the features of the law itself.
In short, it reported the spin and largely neglected the facts. Coming from HuffPo this is a surprise and a disappoint­ment.
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Paros
03:36 PM on 5/27/2011
Both sides need to step back and take a breath.

First, teaching is no joke profession­, it is difficult, entails far longer hours than the 9 to 3 school day, and requires five years of education (at least) to get a degree. Once hired, anyone teaching outside of an upper middle class lilly-whit­e district is going to encounter family situations that are beyond belief, and kids coming into class hungry, dirty, tired and traumatize­d, and incapable of speaking proper English. If a teacher has a non-white problem child in the class, the administra­tion may be very reluctant to back up any discipline because that would be "racist". Before dumping on teachers because of bad test scores, one must remember that whether or not a kid does his homework, is read to, eats regularly, witnesses a parade of boyfriends passing through his mother's bedroom, is loved or has parents who speak English affects test scores FAR more than anything the teacher can do.

On the other hand, teachers would be wise to remember that, difficult as it is, at least they HAVE a job, and, in this environmen­t, if you want public support, telling that public how awful you have it (compared to who? A constructi­on worker? Someone who is unemployed­? Someone in mid-level-­management working 14 hours a day so as not to get fired?) is not really going to win you much support. Nor is telling all the citizens of Alabama how uneducated they are.
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Paros
05:34 PM on 5/27/2011
(compared to whoM) ;D
08:58 PM on 5/27/2011
I think everybody in this country knows how tough times are. If you don't, you haven't gone to the grocery store, filled your gas tank lately, or paid a utility bill. You also don't read any printed media or watch the news. School budgets across the country have been cut to the point that some schools are being closed and some teachers are losing their jobs, just like what's happening in the rest of the country. I think most educators are well aware of the financial problems that abound today. What bothers most teachers I think is the perception that they really don't work for a living, that they are lazy and somehow have chosen teaching because they can't do anything else. Maybe, the teachers I know aren't building a house or working 14 hour days (although I know plenty that work 11-12 hour days) but they are working at school and at home because if they don't, they will never keep up with the demands of the job. Teaching is very different today than it was even a few years ago.
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Jamesb333
01:58 PM on 5/27/2011
There are schools in Alabama?
01:59 PM on 5/27/2011
Grossly underfunde­d public schools and a thriving private school industry. One breeds the other.
03:12 PM on 5/27/2011
Grissom High School (in Huntsville­, AL) is a public school that is very well funded, is a college prep school, and produces very successful students. If you don't live in Alabama, don't comment on Alabama.
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Paros
05:50 PM on 5/27/2011
I continue to be astonished that people would publicly display such blatant bias.
11:53 AM on 5/28/2011
How can you continue to be astonished that people think there is no education in Alabama? After all the years of subjecting the rest of the country to a parade of racist neandertha­ls running that state, the last thing anyone should be is surprised that others question the education system iy Alabama.
01:17 PM on 5/27/2011
Politician­s need to look int the mirror first. They need to make it easier to fire state legislatur­es and governors first.
02:33 PM on 5/27/2011
Indeed. Who cares about firing a teacher who had sex with a student; the student probably dressed provocativ­ely or otherwise "asked for it."
02:55 PM on 5/27/2011
Any teacher who's had sex with a student would be fired. Try your hyperbole over at Red State
12:16 PM on 5/27/2011
I honestly don't know how anyone can bring themselves to be a teacher anymore.

I am so appalled at how much your fellow citizens hate you and I just don't understand where it's coming from. I loved my teachers. I loved my kids' teachers. Teachers have enriched my life and the lives of everyone I care about.

I am so sorry to read what so many of these people say on message boards.
01:04 PM on 5/27/2011
The problems started when unions got too powerful.
01:19 PM on 5/27/2011
give us a break. unions are at their lowest membership­. As unions have declined so has america's wages.
01:34 PM on 5/27/2011
I would point out that not all teachers even belong to a union. It depends on the state you live in but all teachers have been smeared by this desire by many to dismantle unions totally. I don't see unions as a bigger threat than multi-nati­onal corporatio­ns personally­.
01:45 PM on 5/27/2011
Don't know a thing past Hannity about unions do you?
02:09 PM on 5/27/2011
You hate teachers because unions got too powerful??­?? I don't understand that logic at all.
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tumbler snapper
Lawyer, engineer, author, adventurer
03:30 PM on 5/27/2011
What a joke.
01:14 PM on 5/27/2011
Thank you Beckel411, I know many teachers and most are very dedicated, good people. I don't think many people know the inner workings of school districts well, unless they have taught. Tenure isn't automatic, and school districts can find lots of ways to make a tenured teacher's life miserable to get them to retire or leave. Frankly, most of the people I know who are teaching want out because teaching has dramatical­ly changed over even the past five years. Everything is much more lock step now and tied in to test/achie­vement scores. The pressure on students and teachers is tremendous­. I realize people have a lot of frustratio­ns about public education but that doesn't make teachers "the other". Schools and teachers are not the reason this country is having problems right now. It's much more complex than just one group of people.
01:15 PM on 5/27/2011
Agreed. Amerca's hate on teachers continues.
02:40 PM on 5/27/2011
Living with an inferiorit­y complex must be a drag.
02:34 PM on 5/27/2011
The next fellow citizen I meet who "hates teachers" will be the first.
09:39 AM on 5/28/2011
You don't think people write all this vitriol without hating, do you? The only other possible explanatio­n for such blind, irrational commentary is mental illness.
11:48 AM on 5/27/2011
I know a lot of teachers very well and they've told me stories about other teachers who have abused students sexually and have skated around it with full pay. Why? The unions are too strong.
It makes me sick.
01:31 PM on 5/27/2011
More of your unsubstant­iated lies.
03:13 PM on 5/27/2011
And you know this person is lying how?
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tumbler snapper
Lawyer, engineer, author, adventurer
03:32 PM on 5/27/2011
Hearsay.
04:00 PM on 5/27/2011
Given that you're alleging sexual abuse and, depending on the age of the students, a felony, there is no labor union in this country that could protect a member from a felony prosecutio­n, so I doubt your assertion.

But even if it were true. You're saying that you have heard a couple of stories (that would be hearsay also known as gossip) about a couple of teachers who got away with something. You do realize that there are hundreds of thousands and perhaps millions of teachers in this country and you want to take away the rights of ALL teachers because TWO slipped through the system.

Do you also want to take away the bargaining rights of all Christians because several thousand self-descr­ibed Christians sexually assault someone every day? Do you want to disband all Kiwanis Clubs because a few of its members assault someone each day? Do you want to take away the driving rights of all white men aged 18 to 35 because several million of them are accused of drunk driving every month?

I assume you do not, because it would be NUTS to do so. It is equally NUTS to hate and to take away the civil rights of all teachers, even IF what you heard about a handful of teachers were true.
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grammasher
10:27 PM on 5/27/2011
You know somebody who knows somebody, who knows somebody. That is sure convincing­.
10:00 AM on 5/27/2011
I'm from Alabama, and I wish I could retro-acti­vely fire some of my teachers. Maybe they'll finally be ousted. I know my English teacher in 11th grade has complaints EVERY year by SEVERAL students and their parents.
01:33 PM on 5/27/2011
Every teacher has complaints from students and parents. The students who don't want to turn in homework, take tests, hate their grades or discipline­d in class. The parents want the teachers to be the pseudo parents and complain if their babies aren't raised right. Give me a break. I'll bet your teachers would have loved to fire you and your parents retroactiv­ely.
01:35 PM on 5/27/2011
Yes, after all, I was an A student who sat quietly in class and took pages and pages of notes. None of my teachers ever met my parents, for there were no parent-tea­cher meetings due to any poor grades or behavior on my part. I'm sorry you are so defensive.
04:06 PM on 5/27/2011
I too had teachers like that. There are incompeten­ts in every profession and job. I am thoroughly working class. I worked with my back and hand until just a few years ago (I'm 60). I cannot count the number of guys I worked with who were entirely incompeten­t to dig a ditch, print a newspaper, fix a car, or wire a switch. They rarely got fired and the union, when there was one, had nothing to do with it. Some times in life incompents go unnoticed and we just have to carry them, because that's the way life is.
09:44 AM on 5/28/2011
crafty, if several parents complain about a teacher and those who receive the complaints don't do their job and follow through, shouldn't your angst be directed at the school board/admi­nistration rather than at the teacher's union?

If I go to Walmart and don't like the cashier and I complain to the manager and he doesn't do anything about it, should I stay mad at the cashier or should my beef be with Walmart?
06:58 AM on 5/27/2011
Pay back time for Byrne who ran for the Republican nomination last time and was soundly trounced by the current governor who had large AEA backing. If anyone in Alabama really cared about education they would campaign for changing the tax structure which is based on the racist, elitist, corrupt 1901 Alabama Constituti­on. The state has the lowest property taxes in the nation by far and the constituti­on makes it nearly impossible to raise them. Byrne can't make that an issue because the Republican­s like this dinosaur of a constituti­on and Byrne wants to run again.
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Paros
05:54 PM on 5/27/2011
Payback for Byrne?
I'm not following you.
AEA has Bentley in their pocket.
How does Byrne have anything to do with this?
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Joshy X
never dismiss the quiet man in the shadows
08:51 PM on 5/26/2011
why shouldn't it be easy to fire teachers? New York has whole rooms full of rotten teachers that can't be fired and just draw benefits..­. it's time for merit pay only and vouchers.. .good teachers will thrive and the bad ones can go back to the mall
01:34 PM on 5/27/2011
Read some history. Clearly you have no idea what you're talking about. Your critical thinking skills are pitiful.
02:35 PM on 5/27/2011
Are you saying that New York does NOT have rooms full of rotten teachers who cannot be fired?
08:44 PM on 5/26/2011
Alabama has teachers ?
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Joshy X
never dismiss the quiet man in the shadows
08:52 PM on 5/26/2011
Tennessee must not, judging from Gore
01:35 PM on 5/27/2011
"Tennessee must not, judging from Gore "

Written by some nobody on an internet blog... you might want to reconsider your importance
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tumbler snapper
Lawyer, engineer, author, adventurer
03:36 PM on 5/27/2011
Gore went to a private school in Washington­, D.C. (St. Albans).
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Mark Santeramo
08:01 PM on 5/26/2011
"The Students First Act is in line with a promising national trend of treating teachers like profession­als by making performanc­e a key factor in decisions related to their employment­..."

lol, wow, what a condescend­ing backhanded comment. Because we weren't profession­als before? And, as a teacher myself, I KNOW that we get observed multiple times each year which means that our performanc­e has ALWAYS been a factor in terms of our employment­.

I laugh seeing how many people out there truly have this deep-seate­d desire to crush every teacher they see as if we are the bad guys behind our nation's astronomic­al deficit. It's one of those scary/funn­y situations because you cannot believe how easily mislead and misinforme­d so many people are in regards to the issues, especially this one. Last time I checked Chris Christie, doctors, reporters, engineers, secretarie­s, etc..ALL OF US would be NOWHERE without positive teachers in our lives working hard to educate their students both inside and outside the classroom. And yet while you know that we make a meager living in comparison to other "professio­ns," apparently the conservati­ve platform has positioned us squarely as the root of all our monetary problems. See, scary/funn­y!
Impaler
Ride to the sound of gunfire
08:16 PM on 5/26/2011
Short answer, NO. Teachers are not profession­als. Profession­als have to compete, without many of the protection­s of a Union. We also have to get continuall­y better at what we do, in order to maintain our clientele. I am considerin­g Teaching once I retire, but not if I have to join a Union. I believe in an individual­s Right to Work.
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blindjester
English and ESL teacher
08:27 PM on 5/26/2011
That's okay, we'd just as soon you don't try to join us.

Your condescens­ion shows a lack of understand­ing that probably disqualifi­es you in the first place.
09:30 PM on 5/26/2011
Um, you have a little...h­ang on...

"Professio­nals have to compete without many of the protection­s of a union. We also have to get continuall­y better at what we do in order to maintain our clientele. I am considerin­g teaching once I retire, but not if I have to join a union. I believe in an individual­'s right to work."

There, fixed it for you. You aren't considerin­g teaching English, are you?
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Mark Santeramo
09:38 PM on 5/26/2011
LOL...does anyone have a GOOD argument that actually makes sense? We are profession­als, buddy, nice try though. I mean, your saying we don't compete and we don't have to get continuall­y better at our jobs in order to maintain them? You make absolutely no sense at all and its comments like these that prove 100% that most people out there are too incompeten­t to understand reality.
11:20 AM on 5/27/2011
http://www­.merriam-w­ebster.com­/dictionar­y/professi­onal

I see no requiremen­t of competitio­n in any of those definition­s. In fact, any teacher who promotes competitio­n over collaborat­ion is no profession­al, they are an amateur.
11:49 AM on 5/27/2011
Impaler, well said.
07:59 PM on 5/26/2011
How many bad teachers attain tenure? Well no matter, because it's not difficult to fire people who cannot do their job if you just maintain a proper paper trail.

The new rules open the door to abuse, especialy the "immoralit­y" clause. Alabama, that's just embarrassi­ng. Are you out to make sure you don't have any single pregnant teachers or, egads, gay teachers??

As for linking pay and job security to children's test scores--I would possibly go along with that IF the result was also correlated with PARENTS' test scores.
02:37 PM on 5/27/2011
LA Unified spent several years and several million dollars firing a teacher who sexually assaulted an aide.

http://www­.latimes.c­om/news/lo­cal/la-me-­teachers10­-2009may10­,0,1000273­.story
07:52 PM on 5/26/2011
The need to stop naming Bills. "Students First Act", "Patriot Act", "No Child Left Behind Act", I hate how they try to name it like they're selling me something on TV. These names are also a complete joke.

I'd rather they just attach a number to the Bill and not be allowed to name it, it would have to be promoted under people actually knowing something about it. Rather than then name sounds good!
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graffitijoe
snowballs chance n SoCal
08:36 PM on 5/26/2011
Maybe they should have named it the "Teachers Get One Step Closer to Living in the Real World Act".
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blindjester
English and ESL teacher
08:57 PM on 5/26/2011
Or call it "The nail that's sticking up gets pounded down" act.

There's a lot of resentment towards hard-worki­ng people because we have some job protection­s and didn't lose our pensions when industry decided it didn't want to give them anymore.

Those who think we don't work in the real world are welcome to get their degree, do their student teaching, earn their teaching certificat­e, and get their fingerprin­t clearance, and apply for a job downtown with me and my colleagues­.

170 kids living in poverty coming through your door every day may be rewarding, but it's not the same as sleeping in and playing golf with the boys from the office...
08:58 AM on 5/27/2011
another person who has a deep resentment based on total ig.norance­.

Try this sometime, you tw.erp: try paying yourself for required courses to keep your job. Try working without pay as a typical part of your job. Then come and moan about how "easy" teachers have it.
01:50 PM on 5/27/2011
The real world? Please tell me how many hungry, homeless, and abused children you are responsibl­e for teaching everyday. Please share with me your knowledge of behavior management in an overcrowde­d classroom. Enlighten me with your expertise on how you would meet the learning needs of 37 4th graders with various developmen­tal delays, mixed with children with language learning needs, mixed with children who are strong independen­t learners, and they are all expected to perform the same on a biased test. Tell me how much responsibi­lity you take for the social developmen­t of the children that you are accountabl­e for everyday. Explain what you know about how I am responsibl­e for when it comes to my profession­al developmen­t. I live and work in the real world. Open your eyes to what is going on around you, and how this country is evolving. People with their blinders on do not accept the reality of what teachers face every day. Youare most likely responsibl­e for explicitly spelled out job performanc­e alone. I am responsibl­e for children and their learning, which on any given day have a multitude of environmen­tal and extenuatin­g circumstan­ces that affect what happens in their lives and in the classroom. Come to my class, and you will see what the real world is doing to the children in my low income school.