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Greece Set To Present $9.2B Savings Plan After Moody's Warns Of Default

Greece Savings Plan

First Posted: 06/ 2/11 08:19 AM ET Updated: 06/ 2/11 08:32 AM ET

ATHENS/MADRID (Lefteris Papadimas and Paul Day) - Greece intends to present a fresh austerity plan on Friday, a government official said, after Moody's cut its credit rating deep into junk territory and said there was an even chance of eventual default.

The budget plan will include a faster pace of privatisation and 6.4 billion euros ($9.2 billion) of new savings, including some tax rises, to eat into Greece's debt mountain, the senior official told Reuters.

Talks between Athens and inspectors from the European Commission, European Central Bank and International Monetary Fund are expected to wind up on Friday and Prime Minister George Papandreou will present the details to Luxembourg's Jean-Claude Juncker, who chairs the group of euro zone finance ministers.

The euro rose in response to the Reuters report.

Greece signed up to a 110 billion euro bailout in May last year and as well as working to secure the latest portion of that, is discussing a second rescue deal that could total some 65 billion euros to tide it over through 2013.

Greek officials are hopeful the "troika" of institutions will now release a 12 billion euro loan tranche Athens needs to cover its immediate funding needs.

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Minds will be concentrated after ratings agency Moody's downgraded Greece by three notches deep into junk territory, citing a growing risk that Athens would have to restructure its debt and impose losses on private investors.

Short-dated Greek bond yields were up to 45 basis points higher on Thursday, while the cost of insuring against a default rose 40 basis points to 1,470..

"It looks increasingly likely some sort of package will be cobbled together," said Nick Stamenkovic, rate strategist at RIA Capital Markets. "But until then investors are wary and there's a huge amount of uncertainty given the political problems."

EU and ECB policymakers have differed over the shape of a second rescue, with the latter arguing firmly against any form of debt restructuring.

ECB hawk Juergen Stark offered a glimmer of compromise on Wednesday, saying a voluntary deal for investors to keep renewing their Greek debt holdings might be acceptable as part of a broader package.

His intervention may help ease the way to a further bailout but there is still no sign of consensus between Greek political parties, demanded by the EU as a condition for further help.

IMF officials had warned over the past week that the global lender would not pay up its part of the latest aid tranche this month unless Greece's 2012 funding gap was addressed, forcing euro zone governments to come up with a broader financing plan.

A harsh restructuring that would force losses on private creditors has been ruled out for now, but Germany and allies such as Finland and the Netherlands want some sort of symbolic participation by the private sector in a second rescue.

EU finance ministry officials met in Vienna on Wednesday to come up with a range of options for their bosses to consider.

While confirmation of the latest aid tranche could come soon, haggling over the shape of a second bailout package is expected to continue, culminating in a summit of EU leaders in Brussels on June 24, which is expected to be preceded by two separate meetings of euro zone finance ministers.

But as Moody's underlined, even a second rescue would be unlikely to assuage concerns that Athens will eventually be forced into a coercive restructuring of its debt, which stood at nearly 330 billion euros -- or close to 150 percent of gross domestic product -- at the end of last year.

SOLID SPANISH AUCTION

A key fear for investors is that a Greek restructuring would spill over to other high debtors in the euro zone with Spain's much larger economy the potential tipping point for the bloc.

Spain saw strong demand at an auction of 3.95 billion euros ($5.7 billion) of medium-term bonds on Thursday, suggesting investors view it as a different proposition to its debt-laden peers though uncertainty over how talks on fresh aid for Greece will pan out kept yields elevated.

"You'll see plenty of buyers coming in at that level, especially since the Greek deal seems to be moving in a positive direction." said Jo Tomkins, economist at 4Cast.

Greek newspapers reported that Athens had agreed to sell a 10 percent stake in OTE Telecom to Deutsche Telekom and has begun talks on selling a further 6 percent to the German firm.

The sale will fetch 410.7 million euros to help pay down debt, the first baby step toward a 50 billion euros target for privatisation proceeds, which the EU is demanding be stepped up.

The EU may pressure Athens into accepting unprecedented intrusive external supervision of its sell-off of state assets to ensure progress.

(Writing by Mike Peacock; Editing by Ruth Pitchford)

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ATHENS/MADRID (Lefteris Papadimas and Paul Day) - Greece intends to present a fresh austerity plan on Friday, a government official said, after Moody's cut its credit rating deep into junk territo...
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11:42 AM on 6/04/2011
Pretty funny. Capitalism run amok looking for a scapegoat.
01:30 AM on 6/04/2011
Sooner or later the Greek Government will get the boot for this austerity plan and when that happens the EU is going to start to dissolve in slow motion. Germany and the other economic power houses of Europe have benefited from the Euro at the expense of the poorer and less productive countries. However, since they refuse to share what was gained in the form of subsidies to the poorer countries the writing for the EU is on the wall. The combinatio­n of one currency and multiple economies just doesn't work.
11:50 PM on 6/02/2011
The Greek retirement age hasn't been raised yet. Is it still 60?
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msjimmied
09:18 PM on 6/02/2011
I like the angle this article presents, I think it is a more representa­tive of what is happening, not the focus on the debt but the why's...

http://www­.zerohedge­.com/artic­le/guest-p­ost-too-bi­g-fail-or-­too-stupid­-stop-scre­w-banksnot­-people
08:53 PM on 6/02/2011
The German lenders are buying up Greek assets at auction prices. China will buy American assets at basement prices and still not be satisfied.
08:20 PM on 6/02/2011
The people of Greece don't pay their taxes. Yet they vigorously defend their social programs.

Whether they leave the Euro or stay in, the country has an identity problem. They also will forever be disappoint­ed if they, as a people, don't bring their expectatio­ns in line with their capacity.
Quitcherbichin
If you are posting here, thank a veteran
12:48 AM on 6/03/2011
Greece is a perfect example of socialism run amuck....a­nd the Democrats want to emulate that?
12:21 PM on 6/03/2011
Reeks don't pay their taxes.
Where's the comparison­?
09:30 PM on 6/03/2011
The problem is tax evasion, and who do we know is best at that?
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XPat Lib
Retired in Greece
02:33 AM on 6/04/2011
Greece is not a socialist country (there is no such thing) and it's a lot more complicate­d in Greece than any of it's social programs. And, you're stretching things quite a bit to suggest that the Democrats in the U.S. want to emulate it. Typical Tea Party blather of the "one-size-­fits-all" method of an argument. We've had social programs of all types in the States for decades and they've been working just fine. But, no matter where they are these types of programs must be paid for by taxes and tax avoidance in Greece has been a big part of the problem. So, too, are high pensions for public employees who can never be fired and retire at an early age. But, there have been outside influences­, too; Goldman Sachs, for one. Also, the idea that a common currency throughout the EU would be equitable in every country from Holland to Greece was just not practical. The cost of living, the wages, etc. are not the same. Indeed, the Greek people and their politician­s have to accept a lot of responsibi­lity for the mess their in but they're not alone and your so-called 'socialism­' is not the problem.
09:55 PM on 6/04/2011
Actually, it's not a socialism problem, but a tax cheats/nep­otism problem combined with borrowing tons of money from the richest folks on the planet and high rates on that debt, then getting downgraded­, higher rates, combined with the fact that they have no way to devalue their currency and actually have some type of economy that the financial world will back with more loans. It's obviously more complicate­d than that, but the Cracker Jack answers won't pass on this one. Try again.
06:17 PM on 6/02/2011
Time to see if the arab spring becomes the mediterane­an summer.
05:52 PM on 6/02/2011
Is this our future in the USA? Why can't our politicans have the courage to cut costs, end these nonsense wars, and address the tax code? I wonder if we had term limits if they wouldn't all be much more couragious­!
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democrats for life
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05:31 PM on 6/02/2011
if they go through with the cuts, the people will riot bigtime. most people haven't paid taxes for years there, why would they start now?
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KOSMOCITIZEN
time is truth
04:50 PM on 6/02/2011
once upon a time a rich uncle living in the city made a deal with his relatives to bring his niece to the city from the rural area they were living
the niece came and the uncle said : take this credit card and go buy some good clothes , fix your hair , nails , etc hire a limosine and buy whatever you need to look sharp and sexy... i will introduce you to a very rich AMERICAN FRIEND i do business with ....

the uncle ==== the original 6 European members( Germany, French ...)
the niece====G­reece
the American friend ========US­A ruthless corps

the uncle crys now about his niece credit card bills
the niece says you gave it to me and said just charge, you want me to look good
the American friend says i have nothing to do with this , i just want to sleep with her, and i did
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NessEliot1932
White Collar Laws must be Enforced
04:32 PM on 6/02/2011
BRING the BANKSTERS TO TRIAL IN GREECE!

Iceland has the RIGHT IDEA!
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MarkVA71
Arlington, Virginia
04:26 PM on 6/02/2011
I see a point, not too far in the future, where the corporatio­ns are going to move in, bail out many nations and basically take them over. The ownership of a nation or its government is in essence fascism.
Konnie
karmic-aware
03:58 PM on 6/02/2011
they should default and tell their creditors to call up goldman sacs who gambled their drachmas' away.
05:15 PM on 6/02/2011
Except that they run an budget deficit of 30-45 billion euros, which means they need to borrow that much to pay their bills. So if they default, they're looking at annual cuts of upwards of *45* billion, instead of the 6 billion they're being asked for by the EU.

Because, really, if you were a creditor, would you loan them any more money if they have a policy in place to refuse to pay their debts?
Konnie
karmic-aware
05:51 PM on 6/02/2011
the point is that goldman sacs and the other wall street whizzes killed the golden goose collasping the house of cards.....­........if they hadn't been so greedy wanting it all and betting
to lose none of this world wide calamity would be happening in the first place.
03:48 PM on 6/02/2011
Not paying taxes has been a national pass time in Greece for decades. Under reporting income is a way of life. Shared sacrifice means everyone has to give a little. The wealthy need to give a little more.

A national sales tax with a deduction for low and moderate incomes may help. All this under reported income and the cash based economy may finally get taxed. It is time for criminals and others that want government services but do not want to pay for them to finally have to pay.
02:19 PM on 6/02/2011
Don't play along Greece. Be the one's to start the anti-corpo­rate revolution­. Others will fall join.
05:21 PM on 6/02/2011
Praytell, tell me how this works:

1) Greece runs an annual budget deficit of upwards of US$30-45 billion (15% of their US$300 billion GDP). That means they spend that much more than they take in from tax revenues.

2) If they default, who would lend them any more money if Greece has a policy of just refusing to pay the lender back?

3) Assuming no one is looking to loan them money with the hope of getting back pennies on the dollar (30 cents, at best), they have two choices:

a) Cut back spending by $45billion­, rather than the $9 billion the EU is asking for.

Or:

b) Leave the eurozone, and print money and usher in an era of inflation/­hyper-infl­ation that stands a good chance of wiping away everyone's savings.
08:55 PM on 6/02/2011
Most people have no savings anyways.

A Greek default will fix things a lot quicker.

Before the global crisis, Greek public debt was 1-4% GDP, while private debt was most 35%. Only since the global crisis has public debt boomed while private debt has gone down (mostly from government bailouts, as loans are guaranteed by the government­).

There is still a lot of problems with Greek financing and lack of people paying taxes, however, the numerous nations bailing out private debtors (mostly large institutio­ns, not individual­s) have put countries into the hole.

Greece should decouple, default on the debt acquired through guaranteei­ng private debt and the rest will be a struggle to resolve it from within. Forming a central bank detached from the global central banking system and issuing non interest bearing fiat currency is possible in order to fund Greek government operations and infrastruc­ture.