October 19, 2011 10:52 PM

In Las Vegas, Cain combats criticism of '9-9-9' plan

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Rebecca Kaplan
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Campaign 2012
Republican presidential candidate businessman Herman Cain speaks during a Republican presidential debate, Oct. 18, 2011, in Las Vegas.

Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain speaks during a Republican presidential debate, Oct. 18, 2011, in Las Vegas.

(Credit: AP Photo/Chris Carlson)

LAS VEGAS - Herman Cain's now-famous 9-9-9 plan may have taken a beating during Tuesday night's Republican debate in Las Vegas. But on Wednesday, a crowd of people at the Western Republican Leadership Conference was having none of the criticism.

"I'm the only one who has a plan that throws [the tax code] out and put in what we call..." He raised a hand to his ear.

"9, 9, 9!" they chanted back .

"Oh, I love y'all," Cain told the crowd. "The American people get it."

But while the surging Republican presidential candidate dedicated a portion of his speech to promoting the virtues of his tax plan - "no hidden nines!" he said of its transparency - he has been playing some defense in light of the recent scrutiny of the plan.

Critics, for instance, have charged the plan is a regressive tax that would hit the poor much harder than the rich. "We anticipated that attack," he said with a mischievous gleam in his eye. "But I didn't tell them how I was going to fix it yet."

Nor did he tell attendees at the conference, or a group of about 80 members of the Republican Women of Las Vegas who gathered to hear Cain speak over lunch. But he promised he had a plan to deal with the criticism. "I'm not backing off," he said, saying that the American people wanted a problem solver instead of a politician.

Cain's two days in Las Vegas has had an air of a victory lap for the former CEO of Godfather's Pizza, who has seen a meteoric rise through the polls in recent weeks.

"If I had listened to the political experts in August, after the Iowa straw poll, I was supposed to shut the doors in the campaign," he told the Republican Women of Las Vegas, recounting how he was criticized for last of national political experience. "That's the part that they don't get. You don't care if I've never held political office. America needs a problem solver, not another politician."

Cain's feistiness was on full display later for a receptive crowd at the Western Republican Leadership Conference. He called for "attitude adjustments" for both the Environmental Protection Agency and the United Nations. He even joked about the controversy surrounding his comments over the weekend that suggested a border fence should be electrified.

"You don't touch the fence" when the subject of immigration came up during the afternoon. He paused and grinned. "I ain't going to say that," he added. "You see, that's what got me in trouble before."

And Cain ribbed President Obama, recalling a controversial 2008 comment when then-candidate Obama said some Americans were clinging to their guns and religion.

"I kinda like my guns and Bible," Cain said to applause to the audience. "I ain't going to give them up."

The businessman even waded into foreign policy issues, where he needs to bolster his credentials. Once again, he found a target in Obama. "You know, when you rise up in the polls, you get this big target on your back. And so I have been criticized for not having extensive foreign policy experience," he said. "And the guy there now does?"

Cain said his foreign policy would be an extension of President Reagan's "peace through strength" by also incorporating clarity.

"When our enemies know who our friends are and know who we are going to stand with and stand by, they won't be emboldened to try and challenge us," he said. He said the country needed to become energy independent to weaken the influence of nations like Iran and to outgrow China.

Cain finished to a standing ovation from the crowd and exited quickly, taking nearly two thirds of the audience with him. That left only an anemic crowd for Texas Rep. Ron Paul, who took the stage about 15 minutes later.

Paul's 35-minute speech was standard fare for the libertarian, who spoke at length about the need to restore liberty by drastically cutting spending, understanding the monetary system, and auditing the Federal Reserve.

He spent little time recapping an economic plan he released Monday, just ahead of the Republican debate. In the plan, Paul called for cutting five federal departments, returning to 2006 spending levels, and taking other measures to cut $1 trillion in federal spending.

In a nod to his Nevada audience, Paul talked about the importance of state's rights by using an example of a controversial proposal to create a nuclear waste dump at Yucca Mountain.

If the states has more power, Paul said, "you wouldn't have to be subject to the other 49 states coming along and saying oh, we own a lot of other land out there in Nevada, we don't know what to do with this nuclear waste, so the 49 other states decide oh, lets dump it in Nevada."

In addition to the multitude of federal regulations Paul would do away with, he also told the audience there were too many laws, which has led to an increase in the number of people in the prison system.

"We don't need that many prisoners," he said. "What we need is a lot more self-responsibility and the understanding that we don't need 100,000 federal bureaucrats breathing down our neck."

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  • Rebecca Kaplan

    Rebecca Kaplan is covering the Rick Perry campaign for CBS News and National Journal.

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by Lawyers-Guns-n-Money06 October 20, 2011 10:58 AM EDT
by Lawyers-Guns-n-Money06 October 20, 2011 9:57 AM EDT
What about recycled pizza?
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by Lindag10 October 20, 2011 10:41 AM EDT
Lawyers: Oh barf!!! Just what we all need.
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I guess you could recycle pizza out of that end as well.
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by conservativefreespeech October 20, 2011 10:43 AM EDT
Mike Flynn of Breitbart's BigGovernment.com is exactly right.


"Cain will fade. There is too much ambiguity around his 9-9-9 plan and he isn't doing anything to build up a campaign infrastructure. My private theory is that he is a stalking horse for Romney. His role is to block Perry from consolidating the anti-Romney vote. Cain is running to be Romney's VP or a cabinet secretary."
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by Progress4USA October 20, 2011 10:42 AM EDT
Its a mute plan folks. Grover Norquist doesn't support it...that's the kiss of death in GOP land.
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by Lawyers-Guns-n-Money06 October 20, 2011 10:31 AM EDT
by Lindag10 October 20, 2011 9:26 AM EDT
Lawyers: You KNOW that rightwing parrots CAN'T do simple math so it's hopeless trying to explain it to them. That "embedded tax" thing is another myth they like to present. Like any coporation is going to refund ANY tax roll back they get to the consumer in the form of a lower price on the item.
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I don't know if he was right-wing or not, nor do I care. My point was he was traing to manufacture terms like "added tax" and "embedded tax" because he was unable to do a calculation on how to compute effective tax rates.
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by Lindag10 October 20, 2011 10:39 AM EDT
True I did leap to the conclusion that he was rightwing because they are the ones that usually embrace this nonsense. NONE of the supporters of this tax plan seem to be able to make the calculation to figure out effective tax rate, even on their income taxes when the numbers are staring them in the face on their tax return. Sigh.
by starving1968-3 October 20, 2011 10:20 AM EDT
Herman Cain's now-famous 9-9-9 plan may have taken a beating during Tuesday night's Republican debate in Las Vegas. But on Wednesday, a crowd of people at the Western Republican Leadership Conference was having none of the criticism.

"I'm the only one who has a plan that throws [the tax code] out and put in what we call..." He raised a hand to his ear.

"9, 9, 9!" they chanted back .

"Oh, I love y'all," Cain told the crowd. "The American people get it."




Later....

Critics, for instance, have charged the plan is a regressive tax that would hit the poor much harder than the rich. "We anticipated that attack," he said with a mischievous gleam in his eye. "But I didn't tell them how I was going to fix it yet."






So they're "cheering" for a plan, that they don't know or understand the details of?
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by Progress4USA October 20, 2011 10:24 AM EDT
Michelle Bachmann is right on this one starving...the devil is in the details!!!!
by 2happy2ride October 20, 2011 10:12 AM EDT
Giving the government ANOTHER tax conduit is like volunteering at the Proctology School of Medicine.
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by Progress4USA October 20, 2011 10:08 AM EDT
by Lawyers-Guns-n-Money06 October 20, 2011 9:57 AM EDT
What about recycled pizza?
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Before or after digestion? (Makes a difference!)
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by starving1968-3 October 20, 2011 10:06 AM EDT
The businessman even waded into foreign policy issues, where he needs to bolster his credentials. Once again, he found a target in Obama. "You know, when you rise up in the polls, you get this big target on your back. And so I have been criticized for not having extensive foreign policy experience," he said. "And the guy there now does?"

Cain said his foreign policy would be an extension of President Reagan's "peace through strength" by also incorporating clarity.







So you're going to criticize the guy that finally had Bin Laden killed, ended the war in Iraq, helped topple the regime of Qaddafi, and restored our standing around the world?

And while you're doing that, you're going to praise the guy (Reagan) that turned Bin Laden and the Taliban into a terrorist "super power", armed ALL of our worst enemies, (including Iran and Iraq), and QUINTUPLED the increase in "foreign aid"?!?!

You really ARE a conservative - no one else could POSSIBLY BE SO CLUELESS!!!
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by 2happy2ride October 20, 2011 10:05 AM EDT
Romney's plan is much better for the middle class. Cain's plan if it could ever pass, would be a quagmire for businesses to implement, therefore prices will go up MORE than 9%.
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by ajvw October 20, 2011 10:02 AM EDT
Be a terrible thing if society's leaches had to contribute.
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by Progress4USA October 20, 2011 10:10 AM EDT
Yes I agree, but its time millionaires and billionaires contribute to society instead of always take...take...take!
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