September 19, 2011 6:13 PM

Deficits still go up big in Obama's deficit plan

By
Mark Knoller
Topics
Economy ,
White House

Barack Obama

President Obama gestures while speaking in the Rose Garden of the White House, Sept. 19, 2011.

(Credit: AP Photo/Evan Vucci)
Even if Congress enacts every penny of the $4 trillion in tax hikes and spending cuts in President Obama's deficit reduction plan, the government will still run up $6.3 trillion in deficit spending over the next ten years.

In the year 2021, the White House budget office projects the deficit will total $565 billion, just 2.3 percent of total economy. That compares to 8.5 percent of Gross Domestic Product that this year's $1.3 trillion deficit amounts to.

In its simplest terms, the president's plan calls for over $4 trillion in deficit reduction over ten years. "This plan cuts $2 in spending for every dollar in new revenue," said Mr. Obama in his Rose Garden statement unveiling his proposals. (watch some of his remarks at left)

The president's numbers include the "pay fors" in the jobs bill he sent Congress last week and the spending cuts in the Budget Control Act he signed in August 2nd to keep the U.S. Treasury from defaulting on its debt.

The most controversial provisions in his plan are among the $1.5 trillion in changes he wants in the tax code.

  • $866 billion in savings by ending the Bush-era tax cuts for high-income earners.
  • $410 billion by limiting deductions and exemptions for taxpayers earning over $250,000 a year
  • $300 billion from closing loopholes and eliminating special interest tax breaks.

One such tax change the president proposes is named for billionaire Warren Buffet. It would increase the taxes paid by million dollar earners, if their cumulative tax rate totals less than what middle class taxpayers pay.

"It is wrong that in the United States of America, a teacher or a nurse or a construction worker who earns $50,000 should pay higher tax rates than somebody pulling in $50 million," said the president in explaining the provision.

The plan calls for a quarter trillion dollars in cuts in Medicare spending, but the White House says 90 percent of that would stem for reducing overpayments by the health care program.

President Obama was adamant in vowing to veto any deficit reduction plan that changes benefits for Medicare recipients but does not raise "serious revenues by asking the wealthiest Americans or biggest corporations to pay their fair share."

"We are not going to have a one-sided deal that hurts the folks who are most vulnerable," he stated bluntly in an effort to reassure his Democratic base.

He was also quick to dismiss Republican charges that he's engaging in "class warfare" by singling out the rich for tax hikes.

"I reject the idea that asking a hedge fund manager to pay the same tax rate as a plumber or a teacher is class warfare," said Mr. Obama. "I think it's just the right the thing to do."

No funds would be cut from Social Security. White House officials say Mr. Obama favors reform of the retirement program, but as part of a separate bipartisan effort, not as part of deficit reduction.

A White House list shows other proposed savings in the president's plan:

  • $33 billion in agriculture subsidies, payments and programs.
  • $42.5 billion in reforms to Federal employee benefit programs, both civilian and military.
  • $4.1 billlion from the disposal of unused government assets, mostly buildings.
  • $92.2 billion from restructuring government operations & reducing federal liabilities.
  • $77.6 billion from improving Federal program management and reducing waste and abuse.

Mr. Obama said his deficit reduction proposals would not shortchange education, scientific research or infrastructure construction. "Those things are essential to our future," he insisted.

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He says his plan is designed to help Washington "live within its means." But that does not mean he favors achievement of a balanced budget. He'll be happy with reducing the size of the deficit in relation to GDP to just over 2 percent.

The president's plan also provides for some new deficit spending including $6.1 billion for the financially troubled U.S. Postal Service. And the IRS would run up another $1.9 billion in deficits as part of its program to strengthen enforcement of the tax code.


  • Mark Knoller

    Mark Knoller is a CBS News White House correspondent.

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by tsigili September 20, 2011 9:50 AM EDT
Exactly.

Stop listening to the lies and deceit in the rhetoric, and start looking at the numbers.

This President will bankrupt this country, totally, completely, and irrevocably, if we allow him to remain in office.
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by forsanity1 September 21, 2011 5:03 PM EDT
So will any and every Republican.

I guess you forget that every GOP presidential candidate in recent history has promised to cut spending and every one of them has added to the national debt.

Listening to lies and deceit? I guess you must be the culprit in that statement!
by Progress4USA September 20, 2011 9:00 AM EDT
This issue truly has VAST MAJORITY SUPPORT!!!! The President's going to take this and beat the GOP over the head for the next year. My suggestion my GOP friends is "damage control"!!!!
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by chevyhotrod September 20, 2011 9:20 AM EDT
"Deficits still go up big in Obama's deficit plan"

If you think continued deficits and debt are supported by the vast majority of Americans, you are truly completely out of step with average Americans.

But you keep trying, because it will only hurt you in the long run.

It's almost like saying the VAST MAJORITY of Americans support individuals that bought a home without any money down and borrowed more than the home was worth originally and walked away when they finally realized they could never afford it to begin with and left the American tax payer the bill.

The vast majority of Americans realize that individuals making $200K per year are not millionaire or billionairs.

The vast majority of Americans do not like it when the President of the United States plays the class/race warfare card.
by forsanity1 September 21, 2011 5:00 PM EDT
The deficits continue to go up in Raul Ryan's plan as well as every plan offered by any Democrats or Republicans.

Maybe having the whole story -- even though it is poorly written and the headline is incendiary, the piece above does touch on the fact that deficits are not being cut FOREVER in any one Congress/administration -- would help you be a person with a valid opinion, chevy.

You do not speak for the vast majority of Americans. Maybe read EVERY opinion poll on the higher taxation for the top 2% issue and understand that fact!
by chevyhotrod September 20, 2011 8:41 AM EDT
by GOPeconomicterror September 20, 2011 6:02 AM EDT
You weren't alive when Bill Clinton taxed the rich and cut government spending to balance the budget and restore economic stability after the Ronnie Ray Gun stock market crash of 1987 and the taxpayer bailout of the fraud wracked Savings and Loans, realtime?????

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Once again, President Clinton was not a king and he worked with a Republican congress after the 1994 elections which cut government spending and balanced the budget and restored economic stability.

President Reagan won re-election in 1984 by winning in 49 states for a reason. Americans are not as stupid as you think they are.
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by AmazingGrce September 20, 2011 7:53 AM EDT
Ok - Playtimes Obama time for the little guy to go home now. Even his democratic friends in DC are tired of him.

He can't lead.
He talks a walk he can't walk - even with control of both houses of congress.

The glow of his grandiose promises have been overshadowed by his failure to deliver on things like openess in government (Because his democratic friends didn't even want that - Remember all their closed door meetings on the health care bill?)

This is exactly the sort of performance we should have expected from a man who was so gutless that he voted present HOW MANY TIMES? If he was a real leader he would have voted and been prepared to defend his votes - He never did.

IF the democrats have any B&&&* they will not renominate him. BUT they won't dare to do that because that would be seen as a racisst action.

So what Change can we believe in except for more debt Obama? Where is the change to improve our lives. You gave away trillions to 'save' those big corps, they gave millions in bonuses to failed leaders and what did we get out of it? The corporations survived to fail another day - AFTER the cut jobs to supposedly save the company (Translation - cut jobs to save the annual bonuses of the execs.) SOME CHANGE Obama.

Go home to Chicago and face the music there bud.

You had YOUR House and Senate and still you didn't make a dent in the problems we have - Because you are not a leader - just a talker off the streets of the Windy City creating his own hot air.
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by realtimecoffee September 20, 2011 2:05 AM EDT
When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.

-Benjamin Franklin
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by A_Canadian_Opinion September 20, 2011 1:46 AM EDT
Obama recognizes that you have to start somewhere. Saying things like "cutting the tax incentive for purchasing private jets is not enough" is a defeatist attitude, or a rich man's excuse. Start somewhere, then keep working away at it!
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by realtimecoffee September 20, 2011 1:57 AM EDT
If only he had thought about trying something new, something that has never been done before, at least in my lifetime. Spend less than the year before. A real dollar year over year REDUCTION in Federal spending.
by GOPeconomicterror September 20, 2011 6:02 AM EDT
You weren't alive when Bill Clinton taxed the rich and cut government spending to balance the budget and restore economic stability after the Ronnie Ray Gun stock market crash of 1987 and the taxpayer bailout of the fraud wracked Savings and Loans, realtime?????
by bakulaji September 20, 2011 12:39 AM EDT
I have serious reservations on following items:

$33 billion in agriculture subsidies, payments and programs.

Agriculture subsidies cannot be stopped as they are protection against sustainable prices in the international markets. Removal is almost next to impossible. The very announcement of this item, may change world view and may bring calamity.

$42.5 billion in reforms to Federal employee benefit programs, both civilian and military.

Not gonna happen. Civilian employees are protected by their respective unions. Union bosses may challenge any reforms that reduces their power. Military benefit reduction means facing the ire of the veterans. They have power and they know how to use it. Watch out for the gun battles with no holds barred, on president Barack Obama's 1012 presidential campaign.

$4.1 billlion from the disposal of unused government assets, mostly buildings.

With the real estate market, such as we have, the value of such assets is next to nothing.

$92.2 billion from restructuring government operations & reducing federal liabilities.

Teaching an old dog a new trick?

$77.6 billion from improving Federal program management and reducing waste and abuse.

Who is gonna take charge of this dirty work? Will that person make it to the next month without being tarred and feathered in the media?

...and I am Sid Harth@cogitoergosumdesign.com
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by GOPeconomicterror September 20, 2011 6:03 AM EDT
Clinton closed antiquated military bases, taxed the rich, cut government spending and regulated the Wall Street thieves, restoring America to prosperity.
by chevyhotrod September 20, 2011 8:38 AM EDT
Clinton was not a king and could not do anything you say he did without congress. Might want to go back and then realize that he worked with a Republican congress after the 1994 election, which is when everything you listed occurred, with one exception.

"regulated the Wall Street thieves"

You might want to educate yourself and read the new book "Reckless Endangerment" and allow the truth to set you free.
by bakulaji September 20, 2011 12:33 AM EDT
I have serious reservations on following items:

$33 billion in agriculture subsidies, payments and programs.

Agriculture subsidies cannot be stopped as they are protection against sustainable prices in the international markets. Removal is almost next to impossible. The very announcement of this item, may change world view and may bring calamity.

$42.5 billion in reforms to Federal employee benefit programs, both civilian and military.

Not gonna happen. Civilian employees are protected by their respective unions. Union bosses may challenge any reforms that reduces their power. Military benefit reduction means facing the ire of the veterans. They have power and they know how to use it. Watch out for the gun battles with no holds barred, on president Barack Obama's 1012 presidential campaign.

$4.1 billlion from the disposal of unused government assets, mostly buildings.

With the real estate market, such as we have, the value of such assets is next to nothing.

$92.2 billion from restructuring government operations & reducing federal liabilities.

Teaching an old dog a new trick?

$77.6 billion from improving Federal program management and reducing waste and abuse.

Who is gonna take charge of this dirty work? Will that person make it to the next month without being tarred and feathered in the media?

...and I am Sid Harth@cogitoergosumdesign.com
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by fishguru00 September 19, 2011 11:16 PM EDT
worst administration ever...
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by vpcharan September 19, 2011 10:37 PM EDT
Why does Mark not compare with the results of GOP proposal, for example the famous Ryan plan that was voted by the house and senate GOP?
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