October 19, 2011 2:38 PM

Perry calls for flat tax to replace income tax

By
Rebecca Kaplan
Topics
Economy ,
Campaign 2012

Republican presidential candidate, Texas Gov. Rick Perry delivers a keynote address during the Western Republican Leadership Conference, Wednesday, Oct. 19, 2011, in Las Vegas.

(Credit: Isaac Brekken)

Texas Gov. Rick Perry is calling for replacing the federal income tax with a flat tax, a conservative idea condemned by liberals as a regressive burden on lower- and middle-income taxpayers.

The Republican presidential hopeful previewed his economic plan for the country at the Western Republican Leadership Conference in Las Vegas, but offered few details.

He said he would unveil a proposal next week calling for creation of a flat tax, which would replace the present system of graduated tax rates based on income with a single rate for all taxpayers regardless of income.

Perry told an audience of about 150 Republicans that his plan would also include a ban on congressional earmarks, passage of a balanced budget amendment to the Constitution, spending cuts and entitlement reform. He plans to unveil details in a speech Tuesday in South Carolina.

"A change election requires a new direction, and not more of the same," Perry said. "And I come by my conservatism very authentically, not by convenience. I offer the American people a new direction. My economic plan is rooted in what has worked in my home state."

He said he would scrap "the current 3 million words of the American tax code" and replace it with "something simple: a flat tax."

"I want to make the tax code so simple that even (Treasury Secretary) Timothy Geithner can file his taxes on time," Perry said.

One of Perry's main rivals for the Republican nomination, pizza executive Herman Cain, has also called for a flat income tax, which he has said would be a rate of 9 percent. Perry did not stipulate a rate in his speech on Wednesday.

Perry said he will also work to pass a balanced budget amendment, another long-standing conservative idea that has lacked sufficient support to pass in Congress. "I will barnstorm this country from Day One, going to all 50 states if that's required, to generate the support for a balanced budget amendment, that will demand (that) the necessary changes will be placed in our Constitution," he said.

Earmarks, the special provisions for certain districts and states tucked into appropriations bills, have been greatly reduced in recent years after they became the object of public scorn as wasteful spending. Perry said, "My plan is to end earmarks for good. It's time to bring some tough medicine to Washington."


  • Rebecca Kaplan

    Rebecca Kaplan is covering the Rick Perry campaign for CBS News and National Journal.

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by starving1968-3 October 20, 2011 2:06 PM EDT
by antiglobal5 October 20, 2011 12:39 PM EDT
where do you get that they are skimming about 35%?

They may be middlemen but as I understand it when a person needs medical care that costs for example 500k but has only paid the insurance company 300k over their lifetime, the so called middleman has to pony up the additional 200k they never collected from the insured. Am I missing something?







When that happens, the insurance company claims that it was a "pre-existing condition", and refuses to pay the claim at all.

The victim, er um, I mean insured then has to hire a team of lawyers, and play it out in court over the course of 5 - 10 years or more.

The insurance company waits it out, hoping that the patient dies before a verdict is rendered, and the patient dies - penniless - after exhausting their life savings on lawyers and paying for the health care out of their own pockets.
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by daffy64 October 20, 2011 1:48 PM EDT
Just make the tax rate 25% for everyone. That way, the poor won't have any food money and will die. Then there won't be any poor any more and the rich people won't have to support them.

But then again, who's going to clean the toilets?

Hmmm. Let me re-think this...
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by pahgre October 20, 2011 12:19 PM EDT
by ffrecster October 20, 2011 11:48 AM EDT
Consumption tax not income tax. Fair Tax vs. Flat Tax.

The productivity and money WASTED on bookkeepers, accountants and tax lawyers can go back into real economic development.
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It will never happen, just like putting the for-profit insurance mafia out of business, since they are just middlemen providing absolutely no health care to patients, and skimming about 35% off the top of the $2.5 Trillion we're spending in health care today, which will double by 2020 to a ridiculous $4.8 Trillion!
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by antiglobal5 October 20, 2011 12:39 PM EDT
where do you get that they are skimming about 35%?

They may be middlemen but as I understand it when a person needs medical care that costs for example 500k but has only paid the insurance company 300k over their lifetime, the so called middleman has to pony up the additional 200k they never collected from the insured. Am I missing something?
by ffrecster October 20, 2011 11:48 AM EDT
Consumption tax not income tax. Fair Tax vs. Flat Tax. Abolish the IRS and everyone pays as they go, businesses and individuals. No loopholes, no exemptions, no exceptions. The productivity and money WASTED on bookkeepers, accountants and tax lawyers can go back into real economic development. Sellers collect the tax and pay to the state, the states enforce the collection and pay to the Fed less their cut - just like state sales tax is collected now. It is in the best interest of the states to ensure the taxes are collected. It can shrink the federal government drastically.
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by Mortarman29_1SG October 20, 2011 11:54 AM EDT
Like it!
by kuching88 October 20, 2011 11:47 AM EDT
Thanks for the "WALL STREET AND THE FINANCIAL CRISIS:
Anatomy of a Financial Collapse" link, Pahgre.

It is most helpful to have facts plainly stated.

For those who might have missed reading the report by BI-PARTISAN PERMANENT SUBCOMMITTEE ON INVESTIGATIONS, it can be found at

http://www.ft.com/cms/fc7d55c8-661a-11e0-9d40-00144feab49a.pdf
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by pahgre October 20, 2011 11:49 AM EDT
No problem, since I'd rather the conservitards see the REAL FACTS from a bipartisan 2-year investigation, instead of their propaganda or LIES and DECEPTIONS from their usual sources or blogs on forums like "desoto" tried to pull this morning!
by pahgre October 20, 2011 11:45 AM EDT
by chevyhotrod October 20, 2011 10:39 AM EDT
http://www.city-data.com/forum/politics-other-controversies/649215-proof-feds-forced-healthy-banks-take.html
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by starving1968-3 October 20, 2011 10:52 AM EDT
You've posted a link to a "forum".
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Too funny -- when ol' "desoto" can't post enough fox/rush propaganda, he starts posting blogs on forums that agree with his convoluted conservitard ideology, and swallows all that propaganda as well.

ROTFLMFAO!!!!!!
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by pahgre October 20, 2011 11:50 AM EDT
Hey "desoto," any more of your "facts" from other conservitard forums?
by pahgre October 20, 2011 11:32 AM EDT
by chevyhotrod October 20, 2011 10:39 AM EDT
"The proof is now in that the Feds forced banks to take the bailout money - even healthy banks which did not need the money."
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NO, not at all, but I imagine that's the spin from the fox/rush propagandists!

FACT is, the financial industry was making much more in profits from their legalized gambling betting against the TOXIC MORTGAGES they were bundling, the 3 credit agencies were rating them AAA, and they were dumping them to Fannie and Freddie to free-up more MONEY for more TOXIC mortgages! It was a fraudulent deal all around.


SEC Fines Goldman Sachs $550 Million over Hedge Fund Transaction

http://www.hedgeco.net/news/07/2010/sec-fines-goldman-sachs-550-million-over-hedge-fund-transaction.html

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SEC fines Citigroup, Credit Suisse for $1 billion CDO failure

Citigroup Global Markets and Credit Suisse Asset Management agreed to settle charges of misleading investors in a short-lived $1 billion CDO in 2007, the SEC announced Wednesday.

http://www.pionline.com/article/20111019/DAILYREG/111019829/sec-fines-citigroup-credit-suisse-for-1-billion-cdo-failure
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by pahgre October 20, 2011 11:52 AM EDT
I'm willing to bet that the fines and even prison time to those committing FRAUD against the American taxpayers is not over yet, and most likely just getting started. Personally, I'd rather see BIG FINES instead of lengthy prison sentences, since we already have enough Americans behind bars and that doesn't pay back their fraudulent and criminal behavior to the taxpayers!
by Riverjump October 20, 2011 11:22 AM EDT
What makes the politicos from all sides, think we want to pay any more taxes than what needs to be covered in the constitution? Anybody in their right minds think we should be financially helping yet another "transitional government"? We are worse than broke now folks. Our treasure would be better spent shoring up the good 'ol U S of A. How dare they think our, repeat OUR treasury, is their own pesonal piggy bank?
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by Lawyers-Guns-n-Money06 October 20, 2011 11:22 AM EDT
I wonder if Perry can do better math than Cain's goons. Seriously this 22% bit REALLY threw them for a tizzy. Apparently, according to them, you subtract $2.20 from $10.00 to figure out an embedded tax percentage of 22%.
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by Lawyers-Guns-n-Money06 October 20, 2011 11:30 AM EDT
Fuzzy wuzzy math?
by pahgre October 20, 2011 11:39 AM EDT
Wasn't it the conservitard hate radio propagandist neal boortz, that came up with the 22% embedded tax B.S. quite awhile ago, which has been disproven by tons of real economists?
by kuching88 October 20, 2011 11:18 AM EDT
PERRY'S PRAYER CABAL:

Have a look at who would influence Perry's decision making.
Are these the folks you want controlling atomic weapons and running our government? Most of America and the world hope not.

Video: Dangers of sex with demons highlighted by Perry prayer participant [See clip below]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/43758839/ns/politics-more_politics/#slice-2
It is difficult to know whether Perry thinks he talks with god or if he thinks he is god.

Either way, Perry suffers from delusions of competence.
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