August 18, 2011 11:34 AM

Los Angeles to Standard & Poor's: You're fired

(CBS/AP) 

LOS ANGELES - The city of Los Angeles will no longer hire Standard & Poor's to rate its $7 billion general investment pool because the firm recently downgraded the city's portfolio from AAA to AA.

Interim Treasurer Steve Ongele says the city has lost faith in S&P;'s judgment. Los Angeles isn't alone in receiving negative attention from a ratings agency. Bloomberg News reported Wednesday that Fitch Ratings downgraded the rating of New Jersey's general obligation bonds to AA-, the agency's fourth-highest grade.

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The Los Angeles Times reports Ongele told the City Council's Budget and Finance Committee this week that the city should be proud for cutting ties with S&P.;

He notes the market crash that came with the real estate debacle occurred because rating agencies like S&P; gave unworthy corporations AAA ratings. Ongele says canceling the contract will save the city $16,000 a year.

The news comes as The New York Times reported Wednesday that the Justice Department is investigating whether S&P; improperly rated dozens of mortgage securities in the years leading up to the financial crisis.

Report: Feds probing S&P; over mortgage ratings

S&P; and other ratings agencies reaped record profits as they bestowed their highest ratings on bundles of troubled mortgage loans, which made the mortgages appear less risky and thus more valuable. They failed to anticipate the deterioration that would come in the housing market and devastate the financial system.

Companies and some countries — but not the United States — pay the credit ratings agencies to receive a rating, the financial market's version of a seal of approval. Before the financial crisis, banks shopped around to make sure rating agencies would award favorable ratings before agreeing to work with them. These banks paid as much as $100,000 for ratings on mortgage bond deals, according to the Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission, the Times said.

Critics say this business model is riddled with conflicts of interest since ratings agencies might make their grades more positive to please their customers.

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by America_is_Great August 18, 2011 4:04 PM EDT
PourpaixPourpaix,

While I agree he talked about the cuts at 4T dollars, he never wrote that on paper. Even the CBO said it was a good speech but that was all it was.
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by credibility2 August 18, 2011 3:58 PM EDT
A firing from one of the most financially strapped states? Laughable.
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by PourpaixPourpaix August 18, 2011 3:24 PM EDT
It wasn't so long ago that everyone was blaming S&P for being weak-kneed in assessing corporate bonds. A-level corporations like Washington Mutual suddenly out of business the next day, with every indication of failure for months. Weren't doing a proper job with their ratings, failing the public trust for being afraid to rock the boat.

We deserve every bit of the downgrade, so don't blame S&P for pointing out the obvious. Politicians have been putting their party above America. Deal with that, because S&P's assessment makes no difference compared to the political problems.
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by newnameagain August 18, 2011 3:12 PM EDT
Yeah S&P will realy feel the loss of $16.000
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by noloyalisti August 18, 2011 3:00 PM EDT
Denial is not just a river in Egypt.
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by barbaram99 August 18, 2011 2:16 PM EDT
The gent enters the office and sits Well I got some bad news..And he sits up wondering..Well Son We have a problem..Ye see ye down graded us and so..Yer fired..End of story..
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by noloyalisti August 18, 2011 2:59 PM EDT
The truth of the new third world country America really hurts. We can't keep fooling ourselves or the rest of the world forever.
by America_is_Great August 18, 2011 3:14 PM EDT
Nolo,

We are not a third world country you idiot
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by BaselessCritique August 18, 2011 1:57 PM EDT
Does anyone get the point here? J.C. on the Cross!

This is exactly the problem that lead to the Wall Street meltdown. The pressure from the big investment banks is what lead to S & P to giving AAA ratings to crapola. Now the city of L.A. has just demonstrated the workings of system. So, let's see, which president has tried to regulate Wall Street.

To those on this board who defame our president, who show their complete ignorance of economics and the workings of the real world -- You are the problem. Your stupidity was the problem when you gave us G.W. Bush. Your stupidity was the problem when you joined the Tea Party so you didn't have to take responsibility for giving us G.W. Bush. Your stupidity is the probelm when you refuse to acknowledge that the deficit is principally the result of (1) Medicare Part D Drug Bill, (2) Bush tax cuts, (3) War in Iraq, (4) War in Afghanaistan -- all probelms of the Republican 2000 -2006 Congreses and G.W. Bush, which you stupidly gave us. Your stupidity is the problem when defame a good president who has enourmous problems to solve and a completely uncooperative Congress.

Let's face it, you're stupid.
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by ToolMangler1 August 18, 2011 5:59 PM EDT
Good point!!!
by independent8 August 18, 2011 1:55 PM EDT
S&P is a bunch of incompetents. They gave all the worthless home loan securities a few years ago ratings of AAA--what they should have been was AAA CRAP. T-baggers caused the downgrade because of their lunatic ideas--they wanted to let the gov default--they saw no problem here. What the Fox Right Wing News audience (i.e., the t-baggers) doesn't understand is that in a bad recession you don't drastically cut spending because that will lead to further contraction in jobs and a depression. Thankfully Roosevelt knew what to do in the 1930's, and even then was attacked by the right wing GOP.
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by America_is_Great August 18, 2011 3:16 PM EDT
you really are not an independent are you? If you were, you would blame both parties
by PourpaixPourpaix August 18, 2011 3:42 PM EDT
And in fact, the Republicans are still trying to overturn FDR policies. I'm a middle-of-the-roader who believes in being liberal or conservative depending on what's right for the occasion. Republicans are far more extreme right now than Democrats, and that puts them farther away and more in disfavor to independents. The Republicans have been far less apt to work together as Americans in recent times, refused any compromise, and deserve the blame.
by gramljon August 18, 2011 1:51 PM EDT
With S & P making these downgrades, it seems to me that the money managers are now running our political system. Increasingly they are running our educational systems. This is a dangerous state of affairs for democracy. Pretty soon, they will be deciding everything for the benefit of a wealthy few.
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by jtdev1 August 18, 2011 1:47 PM EDT
Sure S&P screwed up on the mortgages...

They now are finally calling it like it is and FAIRLY assigning credit ratings and everyone gets up in arms...

What a joke you people are. Complain when they don't do their job and Complain when they do.


No wonder USA is going down the tubes. Hope you'll enjoy your 3rd world status your heading for.
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