October 20, 2011 10:58 AM

Hanna: Animals owner's wife called them her kids

(CBS News) 

Animal expert Jack Hanna says Marian Thompson, wife of Terry Thompson -- who committed suicide after he released dozens of exotic animals from their Zanesville, Ohio farm -- is heartbroken over their loss.

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Hanna, director emeritus of the Columbus Zoo and Aquarium, worked tirelessly with police Wednesday as they tracked down some 56 exotic animals.

He says Marian Thompson was uncontrollable over the loss of the animals, which she called "her children." Many of the animals were killed during the frantic search, and the animals still on the farm were taken to the Columbus Zoo for care and housing.

He said, "I understood she was very upset at me for taking her 'children' ... for someone killing her 'children,' and why would I be up there trying to take the remaining three leopards, (the small apes) and one grizzly. ... She was crying. She was actually uncontrollable.

You know what I did? When you see somebody that's just beaten to death, she's just done, she's lost her husband, I can't help that ... but you see someone that's has lost everything -- I hugged her and I tried to hold her. She was shaking. She said, 'I've lost everything.' I said, 'I'm not taking your children. I'm taking them to the Columbus Zoo to take care of them. They're still your children, they're still your animals. But we cannot bring them back in these conditions. I'm trying to help you right now."'

Referring to the animals who were shot dead, Hanna continued, "Tears started coming out of my eyes. I don't want anybody to feel sorry for Jack Hanna, but I'm saying that the emotions with me and our staff, the sheriff's deputies -- when you saw the deputies sitting there shooting the animals, I wish you could have seen their faces, I wish you would have seen them when they said they had to go talk to their children. That's not something they wanted to do. Half of them looked like they had tears in their eyes (about) what they'd done. They were afraid to look at me, because here they are shooting at animals that Jack Hanna is trying to save, you know?

This is something, if you tried to write a script, I can't imagine Hollywood coming up with something like this. This is such a bad dream for all of us. It's over now. The animals lost their lives."

The shoot-to-kill orders from Muskingum County Sheriff Matt Lutz, who was overseeing the situation at the Thompsons' animal farm, were questioned by many, including Hanna himself when he arrived at the scene of animal carnage.

"It's been the worst thing that has ever happened to me in 40 years of this career," Hanna said. "I said yesterday when I got there at daylight and saw (what had happened), and I go, 'Why couldn't we have tranquilized them?'"

However, when Hanna learned more about the situation, he said he began to understand the orders.

"You only had four tranquilizer guns that got there," he explained. "Picture about 30 or 40 (exotic animals) coming out of this whole compound with four tranquilizer guns. ... What can be done with four guns?"

Also, he said, the effect on the animals of a tranquilizer gun isn't instantaneous. He said, "What you have happen here, once you hit the animal, the animal goes and for three to 10 minutes, he's not down, he's nervous and running everywhere, the drug is taking effect. No telling what would have happened with only four tranquilizer guns were all we had there and we had 30 to 40 some animals."

Hanna said people would surely have died if the animals hadn't been taken down. "They're huge carnivores," he said. "There's no doubt in my mind ... we would have had some deaths on our hands. Therefore, (the sheriff) had to make a critical decision. Every time I look at it, I know people are contacting (local authorities from) around England, Australia, all over, very upset over this whole thing, about the sheriff doing this. He had no choice, or we would have had a major loss of human life in Zanesville, Ohio, yesterday, during the nighttime and especially yesterday morning when the sun came up. So it's all over with now. I sat here last night and cried several times. I look at these pictures. I don't believe it's happened, but what (happened) had to happen, or we would have had a mess on our hands beyond comprehension."

Hanna added some good is coming out of the situation in the form of new legislation to avoid the kind of situation that unfolded in Zanesville. Hanna said the governor is ready to propose laws to ensure animal safety. Hanna said a ban on the sale of exotic animals in the state is in the works, as well as new state standards for exotic animal care. Hanna says he plans to have a say in those standards, and if necessary, begin to remove animals from sub-par living conditions.

He said, "This will be one of the toughest states in the country when this gets done to pull anything like this off ever again. As long as I'm here, I know the governor, and (former)Gov. (Ted) Strickland started this whole thing, and (current) Gov. (John) Kasich will carry it through in the next few months, and we will be out there and this will not happen again here under my watch in the state of Ohio unless somebody is sneaking this in without us knowing inside of a cave or something."

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by barbaram99 October 20, 2011 1:17 PM EDT
Dear Jack Hanna,
This is just heart breaking..This needs to be done nation-wide the banning of ownership of animals that are wild. Yer well known and can make a difference.
We are allowed to own house cats and dogs and farm animals..Yet owning animals that are wild should be banned for the heath and well being of the animals.Banned nation-wide.I am appalled that the govt has not put such laws in place nation-wide.
If TV shows are the blame as they use wild animals in them then we need to look in to that as well as people get the mindset that such would make a cute pet when in fact -the animals would not.
I can not see yer faces as a legally blind person.I know that yer voices are full of sorrow.I have wondered about this issue as it hit the press world wide--He should have left the cages locked as they would have been saved..I can not understand the mindset of lettting them run free just aso he had to know that they would be put down..The sad duty of them that had to do so.
The tears each have and cry over this. Ye need to educate the public when ye show animals that they belong in the wild..They are not pets.
Yer the best person to get the message out on this issue.
I live in Seattle with my sighted roommate of 28 years. We have a small dog as a pet.
I am appalled that the man at the centre of this mess caused the death of so mamy wild animals tho he has died at his hands.
Ye did the right thing--as hard as it was.
The lady needs to get a house pet that she can love and give a proper home..Her wild animal children that lived are best where ye all took them.
Barbara
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by ericmills October 20, 2011 12:16 PM EDT
What a sad, sad story, with a predictable ending.

Now let's see that these animals did not die in vain. WE NEED STATE AND FEDERAL LAWS BANNING THE PRIVATE OWNERSHIP OF ALL WILD ANIMALS, BOTH NATIVE AND EXOTIC. Write your state and national representatives to help ensure that this doesn't happen again.

Truth is, these animals are probably better off dead than living in those miserable conditions. Collectors like Mr. Thompson do not truly "love" animals. If they did, they would not keep them in captivity. Rather, they "love" being around the animals, dominating them, to the detriment of all.

Recommended reading: Derrick Jensen's 2007 THOUGHT TO EXIST IN THE WILD, or Peter Batten's 1976 LIVING TROPHIES.
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by nevvsterl October 20, 2011 12:50 PM EDT
News flash for you: the amount of "wild wilderness" has greatly shrunk, it continues to shrink daily in enormous amounts due to the human plaque overpopulation. There wont BE any wild space in 100 years, and whats left of wildlife will all by then be in zoos and captivity.
by expatriate2 October 20, 2011 12:15 PM EDT
So the woman called the animals "her kids?" So what? I call my dogs my kids, too. The relationship between man and animal is noble and enriching, but hardly news.
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by mecanik-2009 October 20, 2011 12:07 PM EDT
I read they found the monkey again posing as a greeter at a local super center. They got suspicious when he kept looking at the bananas and scratching his armpits. But they didn't want to fire him because people really liked him and he was best greeter they had ever had but they let him go and he was last seen heading to Washington to run for political office. I think he has a chance to blend in better there.
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by blang_us October 20, 2011 12:39 PM EDT
I can't say how much i like this comment!
by generally_disheartened October 20, 2011 12:04 PM EDT
"Hey kids, Daddy shot a big, bad bear and a lion and a tiger."
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by formerusmcsgt1 October 20, 2011 12:01 PM EDT
by subversivegurl October 20, 2011 11:39 AM EDT
Hey "former marine". Is that how the military taught you how to address civilian people..as "morons"?
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No.

The term isn't used for the general population.

It is used regarding the morons among us.

Anyone who takes the authorities to task for ensuring the public safety is a moron, by definition.
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by nevvsterl October 20, 2011 12:52 PM EDT
Wasnt about "public safety" this whole thing could have been handled far better with a minimal loss of animal lives, especially the rare 18 tigers of which only 1400 exist in the world.
This was about cutting cost and dealing with the issue asap and being done with it
by bree1345 October 20, 2011 12:00 PM EDT
It is a sad situation all the way around. I feel for all the deceased animals. They had no choice in the condition they were put in. The one thing that Mr. Thompson did wrong was letting the animals loose. They could have all been relocated to places where they could have lived out their lives in peace and better living conditions. They never should have been sold in the first place. Shut down the auctions and the rest of the bad situations, and these bad places are out there.
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by mswolfestock October 20, 2011 12:29 PM EDT
bree -- Mr. Thompson was ALL wrong. Letting those animals loose was the LAST, WORST wrong thing he did. At the bottom of this mess is Mr. Thompson being TOTALLY WRONG when he called himself an "animal lover." No animal lover would have ever done what he did. A real animal lover wouldn't have hoarded all of those poor creatures in the first place. A lukewarm animal lover would have seen the error of his ways and called Jack Hannah before he got in too deep.

Thompson was obviously a sick SOB and my heart aches for the destruction of those beautiful animals. He should never be thought of as an animal lover. Animal hoarders like this should be stopped NOW.
by Darr247 October 20, 2011 11:50 AM EDT
Even with only 4 tranq guns, they could have shot them with those first and had rifles standing by... then, if the carnivores attacked, shoot to kill if necessary. It's not like a homeless person reaching inside their pocket for their ID... sure, go ahead and shoot them 57 times from 5 different angles. But yeah - those baby giraffes are dangerous killers.
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by mecanik-2009 October 20, 2011 11:56 AM EDT
The baby giraffe was probably caught in the crossfire. It's sad they shot the baby Giraffe but you have to remember these are just animals. The overall danger was too great to allow them to get loose.
by born2ryde October 20, 2011 12:28 PM EDT
Right, and wolves, lions, and 1000-pound bears pose no threat to society either. They probably should have waved a package of bacon back at the farm, and all the animals would have peacefully returned, no harm, no foul. Never mind the fact that there were over 50 other animals running around while would have been taking the 10 minutes required to sedate one large animal--utmost importance lies with the fate of the animals after all.

Something tells me you'd be just as critical of the same officers involved if the order given was to use less lethal force, and people ended up being killed.
by JVThomasFL October 20, 2011 11:44 AM EDT
The Donkeys and Elephants are still attacking and destroying our country... Tranquilizer guns don't seem to work for them as well. Time to extinguish both Donkeys and Elephants, starting with Washington, DC.
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by StL_Melz October 20, 2011 12:40 PM EDT
LOL! Nice!
by roblearns October 20, 2011 11:42 AM EDT
"I don't want anybody to feel sorry for Jack Hanna" Oh don't worry, I don't feel sorry for you in the least bit. It's a tragedy that a person can be harassed until they commit suicide - and nobody cares.

You change the law, you don't harass to their graves. Anyone who does that, deserves to go to prison themselves.

It is a crime - extraordinary harassment.
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by andie52 October 20, 2011 11:58 AM EDT
I agree,it seems that he and his wife; who left him shortly before he committed suicide took excellent care of these animals. none of them looked sick or undernourished. This town feared for it's safety and proceeded to harass this man to death. It would have been in his and the animals' best interest to start finding other sanctuaries to take them in but if the owners mindset was that only they alone could care for the 'babies it was a no win situation. There still had to be s better solution then this hysterical slaughter,
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