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Newt Gingrich

Newt and the "food-stamp president"

Jan 18th 2012, 14:02 by W.W. | IOWA CITY

THE AUDIENCE of Monday night's Republican debate in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina reached its climax of enthusiasm during Newt Gingrich's exchange with Juan Williams, who asked Mr Gingrich if he could perhaps see how certain comments he has made in the past might give special offence to black Americans. Mr Gingrich is now using highlights from the confrontation with Mr Williams in order to make the case that "Only Newt Gingrich can beat Barack Obama" in a TV spot airing in South Carolina. In case you missed it, or can bear to refresh your memory, here is the exchange in full:

When Mr Gingrich replied to Mr Williams that he cannot see why some might take umbrage at his comments that black Americans "should demand jobs, not food stamps" and that poor kids tend to lack a strong work ethic, I don't think it's quite right to say he was "playing dumb". On the contrary, Mr Gingrich acts as though he is so morally evolved, so essentially oriented toward truth—as though he surveys the world from such an Olympian height, through such crystalline air—that he is unable even to imagine how his use of venerable racist tropes could be sensibly seen to serve a purpose other than transmission of the plain truth. This haughty pose flatters the bigots, who Mr Gingrich knows full well are roused by talk of food stamps and an underdeveloped taste for honest labour, reframing their hoary prejudice as gallant unflinching fidelity to facts.

In response to Mr Williams' quixotic second attempt to coax the former speaker of the House into acknowledging that insistently calling Barack Obama "the food-stamp president" smacks of racial politics, Mr Gingrich rejoined: "First of all, Juan, more people have been put on food stamps by Barack Obama than any president in history."  This incredibly misleading claim sent the crowd into an ecstasy of delight. "I know among the politically correct you're not supposed to use facts that are uncomfortable", Mr Gingrich added to the warm applause of those in attendance brave enough to face the truth.

Of course, Barack Obama has put no one on food stamps. Population growth together with the most severe recession since the advent of the modern American welfare state, which was in full swing when Mr Obama came into office, conspired to make a record number eligible for government food assistance. The Obama administration has moved to expand eligibility for the SNAP programme, but the initiative has not come to fruition. That there is a safety net, and that it succeeds in keeping millions of Americans from the misery and humiliation of hunger, may be an uncomfortable fact for Mr Gingrich, but not for Mr Obama or for any of those among us who do not lament this humane achievement.

A thought experiment: On Twin Earth, does anyone call President John McCain the "food-stamp president"? Is it "politically incorrect" there to call him that? Or is it just so tactically weird to pin that label on a white Republican who inherited a huge recession that the idea simply never occurred to anyone? If, back in our world, it's not "politically correct" and not tactically weird to pin that label on a black Democrat who inherited a huge recession, then why not?

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S. Duplessis

@whippersnapper

Yes no one can deny deny that Mr. Gingrich sounds supercilious. I attribute that to his professorial background. My father used to be a teacher and shares that characteristic. However my point was that the apparent sense of superiority was general and not aimed at Juan Williams in particular.
As to making 10 year-olds doing the work of janitors, Mr. Gingrich did not specify that particularly low age, and he did not restrict the potential work available in schools to janitorial duties. As I recall he mentioned the library. For that matter,when I was 10 I sometimes did unpaid work in my parents' business. My husband had a paper rout. I also remember seeing a documentary about education in Japan, showing little Japanese children doing all the cleaning in their classroom for no pay whatsoever.

Lionel Haverford

http://newsone.com/nation/casey-gane-mccalla/fact-check-shows-gingrichs-...

Fact-check disproves Gingrich's claim that Obama added more people to food stamps than any other President. Not that the differential is large, but it speaks to how willing Newt Gingrich is to create his own facts.

His point about "adding people to food stamps," is not reflective of any of his policies, considering the economy Obama acquired from the Bush administration, and more importantly, the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy that allow 9-10 figure salaries like Buffett and Romney's to be taxed at a lower rate than the 5 figure salaries of their shoe-shiners and cleaning ladies.

Country Boy

Carrollton, GA... I went to school close by. Carroll County is as racist as it can get. Maybe Ranburne County, on the other side of the Alabama border, is worse. In the city of Bowdon, a 15 minute drive from Carrollton, I saw about 14 years ago the KKK asking for donations in Main Street… and a lot of whites were giving them some money.
But the people... the people in general are all so extremely racist that it is an insult to consider Carrollton in any political discussion about America.

Canistercook

With almost half our population obese maybe food stamps should be denied to overweight individuals. They eat too much and buy the wrong things!

Canistercook

The food stamp program is just another big government bureacracy.Far better to increase welfare payents and let people budget their money and do away with all those government workers.
If you need food stamps you need welfare.

OnePersonThinkTank

I am no fan of Obama but I agree that it is not fair to pin all of our current economic malaise on him. Much of this recession was brought on by George Bush with his 2 prolonged wars, "Every American has the RIGHT to own a home" Fannie-Freddie subprime loan disaster, and the subsequent bank bailouts to bail out his supporters on Wall Street.

Obama should also be given the credit for killing Osama Bin Laden. Thanks to that deft military meneuver which he had the courage to green-light, Al Qaeda is now much weaker than it was...a snake cut off at the head can only continue to twitch for so long.

That said, I would still vote for a Republican for the next election, because Obama has not been much of a leader in the last 4 years. He lacks courage, vision and strategy.

One PersonTT - Well you vote republican and I'll be sure to blame you when they take the country's slowly recovering economy south again with yet more tax cuts, not to mention dismantling SS and Medicare. The economy would probably be doing even better if not for the vile and immature behavior of the people you want to vote for.

Unyielding Garden Gnome

Food stamps are a safety net program. Living on public assistance hardly amounts to living high on the hog. You can get by, but you can't get ahead.

If there were jobs, people would work them. It's not like all of the unemployed decided that they would rather sit at home and not work for a better future.

Schroedinger's Cat

Ah the Republican party, the comedians of the Political world. I only wish they were fictional as opposed to an all too real threat to rational thought and social progress.

Russ-Of-Youtube-GlobalPrison

Newt Gingrinch misses the point, because he's a multi-millionaire without doing much to earn it. If minimum wages were $15.50 per hour, as they are in Australia, then Americans would be more enthusiastic to work...if there were jobs to be had.
But if Gingrinch had actually watched the reports he would realize China has all the industry and jobs, America is going the way of the dodo..

Gingrinch looks like another bankster's best friend, rubbing shoulders with his friends in the Project on National Security Reform committee...and their likes. Obama will win anyway, and another candidate will better Gingrinch.

BWWilds

The food stamp program should be reformed. The food purchased with food stamps should be limited to "only" basic and healthy foods like milk, eggs, potatoes, rice, chicken, and generic brands of peanut-butter, ice cream and bread. Off the list should be T-bone steak, and all the high price designer frozen and snack foods that fill Americas grocery stores.

I live in the State of Indiana where those on food stamps are given a "Indiana Works" card that looks like a credit card. This card is to spare them much of the embarrassment of appearing to be on the dole. Many of us are appalled at the mix of high priced and unhealthy foods our tax dollars are used to buy through this program. People buy these foods to fulfill their "appetite", it has gone far beyond just keeping people from going hungry.

njlaw99

Under no circumstances will I vote for Gingrich, he simply does not possess the charachter to be President.

Yodda

I would much rather vote for Obama then the imbeciles that the Republicans have mustered...

Seattle Sense in reply to Yodda

I am pleased you have an opinion. However, the data exists and Mr. Obama is culpable in that his initial efforts as president were not related to job creation or to stablize the economy. He foolishly went after nationalizing health care.

BluesChicago

My great aunt serves as a foster parent for inner city children who have become wards of the state due to their parents being convicted of a crime or sent to jail. She's told me of numerous instances in which women get pregrent in order to receive additional funds from the government. This is not racism, but is crap that actually goes on in America. People don't seem to understand that between food stamps, welfare payments and illicit drug revenue many of these people are leading comfortable middle class lives at the expense of the rest of the population.

I can't tell you how many times I've seen people buy grocercies with food stamps (link card) and then get into their Cadillac Escalade. This is not made up stuff people...it happens for real all of the time.

Now, I'm not saying there aren't a lot of people who truly need government assistance, but I'd think you'd be shocked by how many people are truly manipulating the system. Further, the system is perpetuating the cycle of poverty.

If I were emperor food stamps would be made generally available because no one should have an empty stomach, but after the first child no more increase in welfare payments. You're on your own for screwing up your own life.

Totally would agree that people do that (they do it over in the UK too, I know one or two in Middlesbrough where I live) but it isn't really possible to stop giving them extra benefit money/food stamps after their first child, since it is for the child and not the parents, and would be condemning an innocent child, oblivious of the reasons, into hunger

guest-wssieia in reply to BluesChicago

That Cadillac probably comes from drug money, since that's the best way to get money that's not counted in your legal income. There's no way to tell who's rich and who's poor with that much trade forced underground.

So maybe we should legalize the drug trade instead of stopping food stamps?

Vic Vic in reply to BluesChicago

It's definitely "not about racism" because PLENTY of whites (especially Southern whites) do the same.

My husband's sister and her boyfriend are white (and he is a vicious bigot to boot!). Neither has a job (he refuses to work for anything under $15/hr despite having no education), and they have 6 kids with a 7th on the way. And they live, guess!. . . in South Carolina. She has somehow been able to get almost every kid on SSI (or whatever program gives out disability payments). So she gets those checks, plus about $800 in food stamps per month.

But Newton tells "black people to stop demanding food stamps" because poor whites don't take handouts. Right, Newt?

Nightscroft Squire Maldunne

Getting all incensed about the racial smackiness of "food stamp president" is just as ridiculous as when Obama supporters got upset that they were being called "koolaid drinkers". What was an obvious reference to poorly though out followership of the Jonestown massacre variety, was somehow interpreted as racism because apparently there is a joke or some nonsense about African Americans drinking koolaid. In the same way, "food stamp president" is an obvious reference to big government socialism and removing the incentive to work. Juan Williams is either paranoid or disingenuous. Besides, it makes no sense to invent incidents of racism when there are so many legitimate moments worth of umbrage like when tea partiers labeled Michelle Obama the "Welfare Queen" (an attack similar to "food stamp president" but with actual racist intention).

Conservatives don't believe that government can do anything good so it would not be in their interests to do anything other than screw up when they're in office to prove their point. Anything they do manage to accomplish (tax cuts), only further depletes the treasury and enriches the wealthy more. It's been that way for sooooo long, what is it that you on the right won't see? Is it the red meat that you're addicted to?

This comment shows that SonofKiernan hasn't been paying attention to the Republican Primary. Three weeks ago, Newt offered to meet with the NAACP to discuss that "African American community should demand paychecks and not be satisfied with food stamps," - a gracious offer, but clearly connecting blacks + welfare.

Why didn't Newt say that Texans (the state that has the most people receiving food stamps) should demand paychecks and not be satisfied with food stamps? Or people from Nevada or Idaho, the two states that have seen the highest percentage increase in food stamp participation, shouldn't be satisfied with food stamps? Or that Southerners should get their lazy asses off of food stamps and stop ruining the greatest country in the history of the world? It is because he wasn't talking to African Americans at all, but at the voting base that believes blacks are lazy and just keep taking hand outs.

family_guy77

"This incredibly misleading claim sent the crowd into an ecstasy of delight." - this could be attributed to a good portion of statements flying out during these debates... these guys really DO live in a thick bubble and only fox news knows how to get in...

RBstanfield

Newt Gingrich in the hit, runs and errors has a miserable record. He swing for the fence all the time and hits out into a triple play with three men on base. Yea, he gets it 80% right when a little caution would get it 100%. A debater, yes; as one to govern, I hate to think how he could insult the Chinese, the Russian, the Iraqis, and the rest of the Muslim world twice a day without a second thought.

I had faint hopes that Jon Huntsman would show up higher in the polls, but GOP base is so out of it that it was not to be.

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