What about the children? Are they the property of their parents, or are they to be considered as self-owners?

Can we trust them with responsibility for their actions? Can we trust them with rights?

Well, this is kind of a sappy subject. I really don't believe all that Randian crap they're trying to shove down my throat everytime I try to debate issues concerning children and their rights.

"They aren't rational enough" they say and I fiercely, yet smoothly, ask them: "So...?"

This conversation never leads to anything but to some more randroid nonsense:

"Rights are determined by the conduct necessary amongst rational men in order to maintain a rational society."

Well, I have had enough. I have finally accepted that there are no rights. There is no non-aggression axiom, it's all bullshit the randroids are trying to shove down our throats.

I am going to show you that there is not a single proof for natural law, Randian quasi-religious nonsense, or the allmighty NAP.

Natural law theories have been crap all along, it is just something easy to invent, easy to espouse and easy to explain:

God/nature/reason gave us rights, so we can make society better

I still haven't heard a convincing argument that proves the axiom of self-ownership, or the axiom of anything. We must get rid of these proto-religious concepts we call rights.

I challenge everyone to try to prove me wrong, try to prove the existence of rights, try to prove the axiom of the non-aggression axiom or the axiom of self-ownership.